to think that however repulsive and bullying a 12 year old is...

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.....people shouldn't use language like "little shit" and 'wankstain" to describe what is, however hideously behaved, a child?

In my son's school all that is done is excuse the bullies and blame my son, it has never stopped,that is the trouble with children these days, they know they can get away with murder,and that's why they do it! pratically walking over everybody(suppose they are quite clever really)
cause as far as i am concerned they know what they are doing.

Spot on thesunshinesbrightly

SUNSHINE I feel your pain.
My son was bullied for 4 year by one evil worthless little shit boy at school.
The school were useless, the parents thought their child could do no wrong, a psychiatrist friend of mine who on hearing a taped answer phone message this thing child left on another friends answer phone pretending to be my son , said he thought this boy was psychotic.
My son has been damaged by it all.
Thankfully the boy went to a different high school (I made sure of that) where he had 10 shades of shit kicked out of him (and yes I smiled for a week on hearing about it). I had to have him, his dad and his dads half brother arrested in the end, (whole family are a bit scummy)
He is 13 now and still shouts abuse at my son or any member of my family when he sees us.
He is destine to end up in young offenders or dead in the gutter.

Some people (and that includes children) are just so much part of todays throw away classes thaty there is no hope.
I know you will all jump on this and say I am harsh, but until you live it you have no idea of the pain it causes.
And to be truthful I could walk down the road see that one boy be hit by a car and I would cheer, I think he is evil and I would love to watch him suffer.

And just to make it clear, He is a little shit, and that is the mildest term I can think of for him.

"Thankfully the boy went to a different high school (I made sure of that) where he had 10 shades of shit kicked out of him (and yes I smiled for a week on hearing about it)"

I was very badly bullied - physically and psychologically - until the age of 16, and got out of it thanks to family support.
But never ever in my life I wished the same to anybody, as it would make me as bad as the bullies.

Perhaps there are some kids who are not "salvageable" out there. I don't know. But boy this thread has got out of hand.

I can see why parents would call another child that on here. I doubt tey would in RL or in front of their children.
It's just letting off steam isn't it?
It is so frustrating when someone is being horrid to your child

kimthethreadslayer

i know, it is heartbreaking and i understand how you feel, excuses are all wearing a bit thin where bullies are concerned, I have to listen to my son SOB his little heart out, I have to check my son for BRUISES everyday, MY son to have PUT UP with this everyday, one child starts, then they all think it's cool to beat up on my son!!

so i will call the children "little shits" or anything else i wish too.

my child is going through this, and my son and i, have to put up with walking past these children everyday, knowing they are laughing and talking about my child, and me been a "good adult" has to put up and shut up, excuse me if i vent my anger on here. I HAVE TOO VENT SOMEWHERE.

Sunshine I watch my son turn from a happy friendly little boy in to a withdrawn and unhappy child, it has broken my heart and I will say what I like about the object that caused all this pain.
I understand how you feel I truly do and it makes me so sad for you and your child even though I have never met either of you.

Vent away and ignore the people who say it is harsh, hopefully they will never find out what it feels like to have your child want to kill them self to get away from the persecution every day.
But then again if they did they would not be so quick to jump to the defense of lifes throw aways

I feel for you and your ds too their are people, defending bullies, where are the people defending our children!
i agree, if people had to walk a day in our children's shoes, then they can come back and tell us they do not feel angry towards these bullies, making a innocent child's life a misery, well it's actually way beyond misery.

yes kim, i feel for you and your ds, you sound like a brillant mom, and i'm sure you will make him strong.
i know the heartbreaking feeling when your child says they want to take their own life, infact their are no words to describe as a parent when you hear your child say that, because they want escape the pain.
also thankyou kim, i think, i need to leave this thread, with my head held high knowing i am not wrong, it is so upsetting, i am actually in tears.

No there is no defence and no excuse for bullying.But there may be reasons for it.

Kim and Sunshine

Very un-mumsnetty ((())) to both of you. No mother should have to go through what you are going through for your children.

I hope you both find the strength to deal with it and there is a satisfactory outcome.

Your children will thank you one day for the support and love you are giving them.

You can both hold your heads high IMO.x

Kim/Sunshine, your situations sound absolutely dreadful and I have no idea how I would behave if anyone was treating my DCs like that. I suspect that I would be using pretty choice language myself. I haven't read the original thread that started this and I am not sure how it all came about but I can see the need to vent.

Having said that, from an objective perspective, I do think that it is awful to call children these names - this is for the same reasons that I think it is awful that anyone gets bullied or called names. I appreciate that the bullying your child has suffered and your calling of the bullies "shits" are on different ends of the spectrum but the point is that they are on the same spectrum which in ideal world none of us would be on.

Ultimately though it is not appropriate to call children these names although when one is provoked as you so obviously have been it is understandable just not more acceptable iysim.