for being angry with school for describing DD's trousers as 'sexy'?

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They have a very strict new uniform policy.
Policy states classic black trousers. No loose weave or casual trousers.

DD is wearing black trousers (admittedly from new look but they do long lngth ones)

she is tall and very skinny. To get trousers to fit her they are narrow - because she is.

Girls pulled out of lessons and their trousers jiggled to see if they are lose enough

a selection of girls told their trousers are not suitable because they are 'sexy'

My daughter is 11.

I do not appreciate anyone describing her or her clothes as sexy.

I am cross.

I would call all those trousers fashion, not classic.

better?

Oh yes (in Barry White voice). Baggsy I get to do the jiggling.

An another thing.
In real life the bloody trousers look nothing like the size 00 airbrushed ones in the photos.
Like all clothes in photos on tinternet.
Really they are not offensive. at all. not one bit.

Just posting an opinion.

They look as if they are cut to show off a girls figure.

That could be the objection?

(Yes, despite the fact that your daughter is skinny)

and I even bought her a separate black belt to wear rather than the narsty shiny blue one that came with them.

In someways the school can´t win.

If they are too exact about what they want there would be complaints, when it is open to interpretation and interpreted "incorrectly" there are complaints.

Maybe the trousers you searched everywhere for bought for your dd are okay but the rest of their range does make me see why I would not buy any of that shit their range for my dd. Jeez the shoes alone are enough.

OP I would go into school with dd and ask if her trousers are appropriate.

Mmm, I think Hulababy might have the right of it - or even that there was some conversation between the teacher and the other girls around whether the trousers were sexy or not - 'But Miss, I picked these trousers to look sexy', 'Well, X, it's not appropriate for you to try to look sexy at school'.

Mind you, at least saying 'sexy' is honest, rather than constantly describing things as 'inappropriate for school wear' which we all know is a euphemism for 'disgustingly tarty'.

The whole NL range is aimed at girls older than 11 though surely? Nobody in their right mind would send an 11 year old to school in heels? Having said that, at 14 or 15, we did all wear heels to school, along with short skirts and thick black tights. Is it okay at that age, 'cause nobody ever pulled any of us up on it and the uniform policy at my school was very strict.

My DD is tall and disgustingly skinny too, so I am expecting a similar situation when she gets to that age. OP is not being unreasonable, she just did the best she could in the circumstances, and TBH, I 'd be hacked off in the same situation.

New look school trousers are just that - school trousers. Suitable for any age - ald even allowed by my dd's very strict school. Theya re a good compromise actually - the girls are prepared to wear them and the school are OK with them.

I don't have a problem with the trouser jiggling (give me strength!!!!) - but I would, I think, be a bit concerned at the use of the works "sexy" and I would want to know exactly what was said and by whom. I wouldn't, I am afraid, take the word of an 11 year old as gospel on something like this. I can imagine a scene when my dd was this age (she was quite young for her years!)
dd - to more worldly wise friend "What did Miss x mean when she said my trousers were too tight? They fit fine"
Friend "She meant that they looked too sexy"

Just because the NL trousers are from their school range doesn´t mean that the school thinks they are OK though!

My uniform (years ago ) had to be a particular design of skirt.

No other would have done even if it was in the "school range".

Well, OP needs to ask why the trousers are wrong & express concerns over or ask how it was dealt with.

I would simply front up say you think they are over reacting understand they are not happy, but you have struggled to find something that fits and meets their criteria as closely as possible, and if they can suggest any reasonably priced outlets which cater for your daughters size you would be pleased to receive the information.

But then I have an irrational horror of people who present me with problems and no solutions LOL.

DS's attend a state school that tries to force people into their expensive uniform whilst carefully side stepping the laws on these things, notes about how disappointed theya re that so many children aren't wearing logo'd jogsuits etc (well it's week 3 of term and we've been through three sets already, it's cheapo or non no)- if they ever found a way to ban Asda trousers (the only ones that fit them, age 5-6 on an almost ten year old- now thats skinny!) we'd be completely stuck,even adjustable waists fall down on them.

I'm willing to bet that most of those who don't understand EG's problem have not got daughters of the right age. But those people who think it is so easy to find school trousers for a tall slim secondary school child are more than welcome to take my DD shopping next time she needs some. We visited seven shops (including New Look) in the summer holidays where DD tried on a total of 20 pairs of trousers before we found a pair that fitted her adequately. And that's not counting the pairs we rejected without trying because we could see at a glance that they were inapproprite/too baggy.
They simply are very hard to find.
Oh, and New Look do a specific schoolwear range - it's not like EG was letting her DD loose on the Lolitawear.

They do a specific 'fashion' school uniform range.

Why does school uniform have to be fashionable? Practical yes, but often practical and fashionable don't quite go together.

thedolly - DD and I weren't looking for fashion. We were looking for a pair of trousers that fit her. Not our fault, or EG's if New Look is one of the few places that cater for very slim girls. As it happens I ended up buying her size 6 women's work trousers from Top Shop's petite range which cost more than double what school trousers would have.

Good senzible choice LGP, they'll probably last twice as long.

Knowing my luck she'll have grown out of them by Christmas.

they should list a stockist if they want you to provide a particular cut of trousers.Different shaped kids need different type of styles. The use of the word sexy was inappropriate

Why does school uniform have to be fashionable ??? Were you never a teenager ?
God we used to go into school in short black skirts with stockings and suspenders under neath in year 9, now that was sexy ;-)

I wore a very boring regulation uniform and the most adventurous I got was when I swapped my royal blue jumper for my dad's maroon one as soon as I got home from school.

at stockings, you're kidding - right?

Not kidding at all, the heels were occassionally brought out too, I reckon we passed for 20 at 14.
Needless to say my children are going to the local convent school where I hope they do measure the skirts length by kneeling down because if they don't I will.
Buying anything but M&S regulation clothing for school encourages tarty outfits IMO.

On the subject of skirts, has anyone noticed that it is now incredibly difficult to get school uniform skirts that are anything near knee length. Most of them are bizarrely short which means that they can only be worn with tights - and thick ones at that.

You say that Milly, but even M&S have fallen for the short skirt thing.