to have managed to give birth to 2 children and still........

[Mamazon]

not have a clue about half of the pregnancy and TTC threads are on about?

I only found out recently what SPD was (i thought it was a type of power ranger) but there are things like HCG levels and how much they have increased.

WTF????

I wouldn't know what my HCG level was or how much it should have been.
Was i just a really ignorant person who didn't take any notice? does everyone else understand these threads?

surely im not the only one that just saw the little blue line and waited for 9 months.

Im starting to think im either really thick or that i have somehoe not dedicated enough time to my pregnancies.

Sassy - clearly i've upset you and i apologise but you really should read the thread and then hopefully you will see that that is not the case at all

sorry beanie - I see you never personally accused OP of being smug.

i didn'[t read anything about birth or breast feeding wish i had of done as it maybe have made life slightly easier

think you're getting a really hard time on this thread mamazon after an innocent question!!

If the OP has read some things about montoring HCG levels on an open and no-specific pregancy thread I'm sure she wouldn't automatically know that one of the main reasons for knowing HCG levels is miscarriage and it would be a fair assumption to make, as she did, that she was just rubbish to never have known hers.

mamazon - You're not rubbish, you've got your babies, you don't need to be paranoid about having done it wrong. Even if you had it'd be too late to change anyway and pointless thinking about

Sorry for the prevalence of my posts, lol, just not very good at concise articulation of my thoughts. WIll leave it now.

It is a little bit of a strange OP!

I had IVF and while speaking to my fertile friends had to explain what a follicle was, what a corpeus luteum (sp?) was, etc, etc. There is no reason why you would know this stuff if all you needed to do was have sex and 9 mths later had a baby.

HCG levels are only tested in this country in the case of suspect m/c for women who have suffered repeated loss.

And why would anyone need to know what SPD was unless they suffered from it?

Not sure how this means you've let down your kids though! Don't think many of our children are interested in the ins and outs of our pgs, they are just glad they're here.

There are lots of threads on here that I don't understand cos I haven't experienced what they're talking about. I just don't read them!

I don't think the OP was being smug.

I think what it comes down to is that after attaining a very basic knowledge of what happens in pregnancy and what not to do (i.e. don't smoke, take drugs etc) then it's really in the lap of the gods as to what happens.

The vast majority of problems are not the fault of the mothers - and often no amount of knowledge could do anything to prevent them. So, if you never NEED to find anything out, you are very very lucky and not negligent.

Of course, some people (like me) will read up on anything and everything - my choice. I wouldn't force it on anyone.

mamazon you know yanbu I like you have 2 and only found oput what SPD was on saturday(same as you me thinks)
haven't a clue what HGG is

no, i think you get a disproportionately numberof high people with specific and in some cases quite rare problems - the reason being that if you have a counting-the-days pregnancy you probably aren't as likely to look for support online as someone with massive complications. I mean, any question you might ask would be daft eg. 5 months gone, how much longer? >moron emoticon<

whereas if you hav eg TTC issues there are a plethora of possible problems and solutions with various pros and cons and having others who've been there to talk it through would be a great help. Same for other mid-pg issues.

but i don't think you do your kids a disservice as getting over-informed is more likely to make you one of the 'worried well'' rather than putting you at ease.

wow, have my waffling hat on : YANBU

'Surely I'm not the only one that just saw that little blue line and waited 9 months' and 'WTF????' are the parts of your OP which stood out.

I HAVE read the whole thread Mamazon - and I still think you hoped that it would turn into a 'God yes - all these obsessive bloody women posting about stuff - why can't they just be uber cool and laid back like me - you are so NOT BU'

I didn't know what mesotheliom was or palliative radiotherapy was until a few years ago. If someone else mentioned on them online before I learned about them, should I have asked 'WTF?'

Insensitive and ill thought out OP but not worth losing any sleep over. Apology accepted.

I think it's the fact that you posted under the AIBU forum that made you come across as smug.

YANBU but you did come across as "Why on earth are all these women making such a fuss?"

You can't possibly have done your DCs a disservice- that's a really weird thing to say- you conceived naturally- not knowing about infertility in no way affected your preganancy, did it?

Any of us could read any health thread and wonder at our ignorance. I feel humbled when I read the breast cancer threads afer reading some of the dross on the style and beauty or relationship threads. All other issues pale into insignificance when you are fighting for your life as some women are.

Purplepeony - you said what I wanted to say but so much more articulately and not half as grumpy/ranty sounding

Sassy- thanks- that's a 1st for me- I am usually slagged off!

Hear hear purplepeony!

It's a very emotional subject Mamazon, and what you forget is that women who've suffered IF have to put up with bullshit comments in RL all the time so are probably extra sensitive to it . (Not that I'm accusing you of talking bullshit of course, just perhaps unfortunate choice of words on your OP!).

"Just relax"

"Go on holiday"

"Are you sure you're having enough sex/sex at the right time"

"Oh, I just have to look at my husband and get pg"

"You're so lucky not being tied down with kids"

And on and on and on and on and on.

So, yes, we get stroppy!

SpongebrainMP - the classic line I heard was 'Oh he just has to leave his trousers on the bed and I get pregnant'

Lol sassy!

After I was diagnosed with blocked tubes and told we needed IVF, one of my friends said to me that "I had to look at the bright side and that once I'd finished my family [hmm, a foregone conclusion that the IVF was going to work of course!] I wouldn't have to use contraception"!!!!!!

Words failed me . . . .

@spongebrainmaternitypants love THE NAME

don't you think that falls in the land of standard well-meaning comments we shouldn't take to heart? annoying yes...

when your average person thinks of IVF they think 1) it sounds really easy & fuss free
2) it is really likely to work

and hopefully, they get to stay in that ignorance, rather than finding out the facts of the matter by bitter experience.

I don't think mamazon meant TTc things particularly, though it is particularly laden with medical terminology (though unavoidably so) by which your average punter is mystified.

having a close relative in the TTC way, i find it almost impossible not to be insensitive (i mean, my life is almost all about kids...)

Thank you OOM .

I agree that is very hard not to be insensitive sometimes - and obviously you can't always know that someone is struggling to conceive or how they feel, etc, and most of the time I let it wash over me. However, the contraceptive comment was just bloody daft - as if anyone would think "every cloud has a silver lining" when told they needed IVF cos it meant they wouldn't have to take the pill for a few years afterwards!

Unfortunately some people just feel the need to fill a silence .

I wasn't esp upset at the OP, just thought it was a little odd . Can see how others would have been upset though - and I am on the other side of the fence now so to speak so perhaps not quite as sensitive as I once was.

Thesecondcoming - you need to take folic acid from anytime now, stop smoking if you do, eat sensibly and then have sex. Quite a lot of sex which you must enjoy. Worry about luteal phases and all the other stuff 6 or 8 months down the line if nothing has happened and good luck!

I didn't know what half of the TTC threads were saying - but I quickly learnt. In fact, I learnt more about my fertility by browsing on TTC threads in a few months than I'd ever encountered in my previous three and a half decades of life.

With my first LO, I fell pregnant quickly. Wiht my current one, it took a long, long time. It was only by learning about charting, temperatures, peeing on sticks, luteal phases, ovulation etc that I finally got up the duff this time.

YOu're lucky, Mamazon, not to have to learn about your fertility - but many women do need to know how it all works!

luteal phase

I'm at work so apologise for the brevity of my response!