to have managed to give birth to 2 children and still........

[Mamazon]

not have a clue about half of the pregnancy and TTC threads are on about?

I only found out recently what SPD was (i thought it was a type of power ranger) but there are things like HCG levels and how much they have increased.

WTF????

I wouldn't know what my HCG level was or how much it should have been.
Was i just a really ignorant person who didn't take any notice? does everyone else understand these threads?

surely im not the only one that just saw the little blue line and waited for 9 months.

Im starting to think im either really thick or that i have somehoe not dedicated enough time to my pregnancies.

[FabBakerGirlIsBack]

I have only read the first few posts but Mamazon was so not being smug.

I read every pregnancy magazine going but still come across things I don't know. If you haven't read up or experienced things there will always be things you don't understand or know what they are.

[spongebrainmaternitypants]

But FabBaker, that's not what she said was it? If she'd just asked what the phrases meant fair enough, but to say she just saw the little blue line and waited nine months could come across as a teeny bit smug?

I would have given my right arm to have that sort of pg .

thesecondcoming, not sure why after four children you should be worrying about your luteal phase. I would just ttc as normal rather than worrying about it as you clearly don't have any identifiable fertility problems.

And to not give up smoking but worry about your luteal phase is just plain daft!

[BitOfFun]

Well I knew everything

Because I am a book-lovin' bore, and when I was first pregnant my then dh was studying obstetrics, and I would regularly paste him in his practce papers. I also got well into natural birth etc and got a place on a midwifery course.

Then I had my babies, my brain fell out, and I got old and out-of-date.

I think those threads would read like a foreign language to me now. As do the weaning ones, and all sorts of other ones. I am struggling to find my area of expertise on MN, but seemed to have settled on general crudeness and a propensity for disturbing links, safe in the knowledge that nobody ever really needs those!

[beanieb]

I do have to in part agree with "Sassybeast".

I think that perhaps Mamazon really didn't have a clue at all what the importance of HCG might be to many posters, and so she really didn't actively want to cause any offence to anyone. However there is that line 'Surely I'm not the only one that just saw that little blue line and waited 9 months' and 'WTF????' which also made me wince a little. Together with the fact that it's been posted in AIBU which could make some people think or worry that this was an attempt to start a big ole argument about people who make too much of a big deal about getting pregnant (and some do) but forgetting that it could have cause some ofence for people who really do have genuine reason to worry about their fertility or their pregnancy.

Anyway - I think all us long term TTCers know that we can sometimes take offence when it wasn't intended but we also know that Mamazon really wasn't meaning to upset us.

[peanutbutterkid]

I thought it was weird when people online congratted me on having a BFP... I didn't get BFPs. I only wee'd on one stick just once in just one of the four pregnancies. The others I just put 1+1+1 together, let's see, unprotected sex, late period, feeling a little sick, what might be happening... ?

I am grateful that I've never had to worry about TTC. But if I didn't come online, I would never understand that so many people get very caught up in it.

[HeadFairy]

I'm a pregnancy nerd and just love all things medical, so I found out lots I didn't really need to know (thankfully no SPD here) but that was with ds. Having had 2 mcs before getting pg again, I was quite grateful I understood a lot of the terminology and what was going on when I was in hospital, having read so much on here.

[weegiemum]

I don't think Mamazon was being smug either. Not at all. In fact, I sometimes feel the same if I click on something accidentally ....

I don't know anything about ttc, I know I'm fortunate!

But I can tell you I know more about kidney function in pg, stenting of the ureter, painkillers and how safe/unsafe they are, peeing on a stick (to see how much blood was in my urine that day), weeks and weeks in hospital on IV antibiotics, discussing whether I had had too much radiation to have the last scan I really needed to see if my kidney was shrivelling up, safety of general anaesthetics in pg, what an air ambulance evacuation is about .......... than any of you will hopefully ever know.

And I'm delighted that Mamazon doesn't know about it. Way to go for Mamazon and her easy pregnancies, I'm delighted that there are people out there who have it easy, cos my 2nd and third were shit, you know.

(someone is going to come along now and say "well at least you can get pregnant, you are so lucky". I'll be accused of being smug or misunderstanding too!)

[BethNoire]

I get a lot of it- I know that HG doubles every solong in early preganancy and is linked to miscarriage risk,and that SPD is horrid (had it) and had HG and PET as well

You only know if you need to, like SPD (the oehr sirt) in ASD, or what OCD is etc etc

[BethNoire]

Oha nd knowing OP from the Sn threads would be especially surprised if any offence meant... I kinda get the impression she knows what a rough ride is like, just from another angle- there are many after all.

[2shoes]

can't believe Mamazon being called smug.... crazy

[beanieb]

the word smug was actually used first by someone defending her to be fair. Most mentions of the word smug in this thread are not calling her smug at all

[oneopinionatedmother]

on the other hand some things are over-medicalised without good reason, i mean why say AF when you mean 'on your rag'? or use he word 'issue' when you mean 'problem'...

which i do all the time, having been brainwashed by corporate BS.

[Sassybeast]

PMSL - no on has accused Mamazon of being smug apart from someone who shares her POV Doesn't anyone read these threads properly ? [angelic face smilie]

[weegiemum]

I do remember the day I figured out what EWCM was!!

ewwww!

[purplepeony]

thesecondcoming- there is a small irony in your post- see if you can spot it- "why do I have to stop smoking- it is my only pelasure in life"- smoking and life. Hmmm. don't go together too well those 2 words. And neither do smoking, passive smoking, childhood asthma, children's chest infections, early death, heart disease, cancer etc etc.

[BethNoire]

AF medical? PMSL, it's aunty flo (sadly)

I only use isues with DH in a joke-patronising way.

[bronze]

How is it insensitive? If you don't know what something is that you would find out if you had fertility problems then how can you be being insensitive by saying you don't know what it is. (hence upsetting people with fertility problems)

[ilovemydogandmrobama]

TTC is like anything else. Unless it's happening to you, tend not to take notice. Much the way when your child is sick and you do the rounds at Children's Hospital. One finds out all about various tests, best veins for drips, what an ng tube is etc.

[Sassybeast]

Bronze, as I've explained before the whole tone of the OP, including the title, suggests that the OP thinks that mentions of HCG are made by those who think to much about the whole issue. That, in many cases, is so far from the truth. The tone was scathing - in a similar way if someone posted to say 'I've managed to have 4 normal kids and none of them have allergies - WTF? (do people go on about allergies for)' or 'I've managed to have 3 children who never behave badly. WTF ?' (do people go on about strategies for managing bad behaviour)

And as I've said before, I expect the Op thought that lots of people would agree that anyone who posted about HCG levels was deserving of a 'WTF' ?

[bronze]

in your opinion

[SoupDragon]

To me the OP is simply expressing surprise at her level of ignorance.

[OrmIrian]

I share the OPs surprise. At my ignorance and at just how much there is to know, and that some people have to know. I often feel like that on MN though,

[TheDMshouldbeRivened]

'surely im not the only one that just saw the little blue line and waited for 9 months.'

That was me although I did get monstrous pelvic pain which I later learned was called SPD. I didn't have scans or tests either. Just got larger and then went pop.

[TheDMshouldbeRivened]

but then we didnt have the internet back then

[bronze]

now theres a whole world of blue rinses you need to learn about Riven