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Bloody teenagers, where the hell are the parents

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Tiredmumno1 · 08/08/2009 03:19

Why oh why do i have to endure a load of teenagers hanging about on the pitch black field, laughing + talking (loudly) at 20 past 3 in the morning. I just wanna sleep AIBU.

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SOLOisMeredithGrey · 10/08/2009 00:46

Naive? maybe, but I am very strict with my Ds and he also knows that he'll be up against my brother if he messes around. 6'7" tall and built like a brick out house. Ds wont get away with any of it. Actually, I don't think he'll turn into that sort of teen anyway. I've been quite lucky with him so far.

cat64 · 10/08/2009 01:35

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SOLOisMeredithGrey · 10/08/2009 01:47

I'm a tough mummy cat

piscesmoon · 10/08/2009 07:39

You can have a big problem if you are too tough. I know several people who had a very strict upbringing and then they went wild when they were in their 20's, and 2 waited until they were in their 30's.They didn't find it easy living their teenage years at that age (one went off with a 19yr old aged 35!)
It isn't that simple. I like to know where mine are-they don't do hanging around and they certainly wouldn't be in a field at 3am-HOWEVER-that is largely down to luck, if they had friends who were in a field at that time and wanted to be out with them it might be a different story. If they got into drugs it would certaily be a different story.
It is never a good idea to be complacent. You bring them up to be responsible,emotionally intelligent adults, but you have to hope that they have acquired the self discipline-you can't control. If you have to resort to control you probably ruin your relationship.It is all about letting go gradually.

juuule · 10/08/2009 07:59

Exactly as Piscesmoon and Cat64 say.

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piscesmoon · 10/08/2009 08:16

The 35 yr old had very strict parents when she was a teenager and so she got married young to get away from home. When she was an adult with a 10yr old daughter she really felt that she was getting to middle age and had missed being young. She started an affair with a 19yr old and went off to live with him leaving DH and DD. The relationship didn't last very long but ruined lives along the way. All in all it might have been better if she had been in a field at 3am and got it out of her system!!

juuule · 10/08/2009 08:16

And I'm in total agreement with Maryz.

Goblinchild · 10/08/2009 08:17

Her son is 2. Maybe we should just be patient and wait a decade or so.

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Goblinchild · 10/08/2009 08:28

Agreed.
I can wait though, few things are as sweet as watching someone eat their words, especially if they have been smug for an extended period of time. Having children made me a much less judgemental teacher, I used to think a lot of parents were rubbish when I was childless and 24. How the years have changed me!

MANATEEequineOHARA · 10/08/2009 08:28

Hmm...not sure we can really predict what will happen to our dcs when teenage hormones kick in, but of course we can do our best to make sure they are educated (as already defined in this thread!) well enough not to go 'off the rails' (like I did!).

I loathe teenagers causing trouble now I am a parent, even though I was one once. But I think it is unfair to just look straight to the teenagers as the source of the problem. Firstly, any unacceptable behaviour is symptomatic of the society and often, the family, in which they are raised. Secondly there is the case of 'define problem' - loud teenagers are not a problem if they are not considered as such, and are best off not labelled as such either. Once laws are broken they are hoody wearing-hooligans and are treated as such. The pros and cons of which are of course debatable, but I don't think it is something that can be considered without understanding the individual context.

gingernutlover · 10/08/2009 08:36

YANBU to want to sleep at 3am - that is normal behaviour

Anyone who is making excessive noise at 3am IBU - it is not considerate behaviour

however, like someone else said, you probably wont change their behaviour so maybe the ear plugs would help until the weather changes and its too cold for them to hang out on the field.

and like many others here when I was a teenager, i don't remember feeling the need to be outside peoples houses (which these teenagers are) at 3am making a lot of noise and stopping people from sleeping (which these teenagers are) I also don't remember there being an organised place I could go to chat to friends at 3am because I was normally in bed at 3am.

These teenagers are in the wrong - they are behaving badly and unfortunatly there is very little you can do about it

OrmIrian · 10/08/2009 08:39

I sympathise OP. no-one should be kept awake at 3am. By teenagers or by drunken adults for that matter.

But I am afraid that your attitude to teenagers is so commonly held that it tars all children of that age with the same brush. I had a long whinge on here last week about my son being 'moved on' by the police when he and his friends were skating behind the swimming pool. No skate park, nowhere at all where they are allowed to skate - policeman's response to DS pointing this out was 'not my problem'. So even kids trying to carry out an activity that would, if there were allowed to carry on, keep them happy and out of trouble and exhausted by the end of the day, are being demonised. Not providing for our teens is like keeping a large boisterous dog in a small room and wondering why it chews the furniture and shits on the floor! Teenagers aren't like little children and they aren't like adults. We make them and we all need to look out for them.

piscesmoon · 10/08/2009 08:51

' Having children made me a much less judgemental teacher, I used to think a lot of parents were rubbish when I was childless and 24. How the years have changed me! '

Me too-I cringe now at some of my opinions!!
The 'if Mummy wouldn't approve don't do it' really made me smile. I certainly did things my parents wouldn't approve of-I expect that I still do! My elderly mother was staying last week and she was saying that she did things her parents wouldn't have approved of, she just made sure they didn't know. My DSs quite often say 'you wouldn't want to know, Mum'.

You have to bring them up the way you think best and trust that it sinks in.

I think OP can do something about it -our area has a neighbourhood action group and they work with the police to stop anti social behaviour.
I agree with OrmIrian -more needs to be done for teenagers-very often there is nowhere for them to go and nothing to do. Very often they don't want anything organised-just a space to hang out.

sleeplessinstretford · 10/08/2009 09:04

as the mother of a truly lovely teenager i can assure you that a)the parents probably have no idea where they are-they'll say one place and then go another-they're probably all 'staying over at such and such a bodies to help them babysit their little cousins who are coming from australia and the erm parents are going out for a meal and so zzzzz'unless you actually catch them 'at it' you can't really do that much about it (alternative is you make them exist in a miserable state of no trust and a really shit relationship all round)
b)the teenager probably has no idea that they are being noisy[-we live opposite a park and actually opposite the park gates-i have been known to shout out the window 'if you are going to make so much noise can you move into the park and away from the houses we're in bed' and they do apologise and move.
Now if only the drunken tarts who decide to have rows outside my house at 3am would fuck the fuck off we'd be right!

OrmIrian · 10/08/2009 09:20

"Now if only the drunken tarts who decide to have rows outside my house at 3am would fuck the fuck off we'd be right"

Well yes exactly! We are more likely to get woken from our gentle slumbers by alcohol-fuelled screaming matches on a Friday or saturday night Then I love, oh how I long, for a high-pressure hose.

sleeplessinstretford · 10/08/2009 09:33

i can sort of understand teenagers a bit,i don't think there's a big difference between toddlers and teenagers,they're both a real time of change (from baby to child from child to adult) they can almost do everything but not quite, they have bizarre sleeping\eating rituals,constantly push boundaries and struggle to communicate with us for whatever reason.
It's the daft bints who row with their boyfriends/mates/have really really loud PISSED phone conversations or decide that 'sitting on my garden wall as we're the corner house' is the ideal place for their post pub chips and chat...

SOLOisMeredithGrey · 10/08/2009 13:09

My son is 11 goblinchild, my toddler is 2! how old do you think I am?! I'm not a naive 19yo and yes I am strict and have certain expectations of my son and his behaviour. Respect for other people is at the very top of that list.

No of course my brother isn't going to beat my son up, how absurd. I don't need to resort to violence to control my children ~ how ridiculous! but my son only has my dad and his uncle as male role models, so he tends to listen differently to them than to me.

I'm fully aware that not every loved child grows up to be a responsible and respectful teen, I have a very good friend in exactly that position with her teen Dd, but her experience is quite extreme and I think, unusual.

I was brought up by very strict parents and yes I had a few moments, but you would never have found me drinking and sitting around outside anyones home at 3 in the morning. My deadline for being indoors was 11 o'clock ~ even at the age of 20 as I was planning my wedding day! I respected my parents enough to follow their rules(their house, their rules). I do also recall going through an odd stage at 15 where the transition from child to adult was a weird one. I'm hoping to draw on my experience of that when my Dc's need reassurance, guidance and advice. I won't though, expect them to be making a nuisance of themselves to other people at 3am.

I also remember thinking whilst shopping that 'if that was my child it wouldn't be screaming like that'. I think we've all done that and I still smile when I see other people's faces at a screamy child in the supermarket now having had/sometimes still having a toddler in a supermarket strop.

Lastly, if we don't have ideals for our children and their behaviour, what then is the point? live for the day? only deal with things our Dc's do on a daily basis? or try to teach them for the future ~ their future and everyone elses? I know which I'm trying to do.

Goblinchild · 10/08/2009 13:18

'My son is 11 goblinchild, my toddler is 2! how old do you think I am?! '

sleeplessinstretford · 10/08/2009 13:20

ok,some teenagers lie.most rebel. i wouldn't be lobbing your rocks just yet from the orangery dear...
the parents possibly don't know where they are,in a gang they are silly-doubly silly and it is a rare teenager who'll stick their head above a parapet and say 'hey,everyone, it's 3am,shush'
it's called peer pressure and wanting to be part of a gang...it doesn't make them necessarily all bad

SOLOisMeredithGrey · 10/08/2009 13:26

Aw! thanks goblin, you've made my day!

Goblinchild · 10/08/2009 13:32
Grin
Tiredmumno1 · 10/08/2009 13:32

i think i am getting used to walking around like a zombie now. the teens round here really are not interested in anything. they have been asked, so you cant help if they dont want the help, i think the adults and council have given up. and i agree roll on the bad weather, i love it when they are out there and it rains, you should see them running for their lives

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