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to not understand why so many poor people...

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nybom · 05/08/2009 09:22

...are being called "poor" if they can afford:

  • cigarettes/drugs
  • dogs
  • large amounts of takeaways/ready meals
  • ready cut fruit, brands, air freshners and other superfluous crap, kids drinks/other products specifically tailored to kids
  • to go out drinking
  • FF babies
  • to leave lights on, have electrical appliances on standby, not to use energy light bulbs, to keep the water running, to put on half a load of washing, to leave heating on at night
  • to maintain artificial nails, to have hair extensions
  • buy loads of beauty products
  • to leave their car engine on whilst going shopping/standing in a traffic jam
  • to have themed children's birthday parties with loads of props
  • and most of all: have CREDIT cards so they can overdraw

i'm talking of regular habits not just occasional behaviour...

several of my friends are on benefits, so the observations are firsthand and not just assumptions.

a friend of mine (single mum on benefits) got a party bus for her DSs last birthday party (besides loads of presents), this year he's getting a wii (and loads of other presents). WTF?

why don't these people simply save more?

i on the other hand spend less than 100 pounds on a family of four (whilst buying high quality, fresh, organic products) by buying 50% of my shopping reduced/offers, at local markets and a lot of things (like toiletries) from pound shops or discounters. we buy value toilet paper (amongst other things); and i go to the hairdresser twice a year, and only to the beautycian for special occasions such as weddings. the children don't get any toys or clothes from us, as there are enough family and friends who don't know what to buy for christmas/birthday parties. so the kids basically don't cost us anything. we have one credit card and we make sure NEVER to overdraw because of the high interest rates.

i simply don't get it...

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lockets · 05/08/2009 10:14

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lou031205 · 05/08/2009 10:17

Perhaps you realise YABU now.

Some of the things you mention will have been paid for by provident loans because they are desperate for their child to have the same as their friends.

Tobacco is addictive, rich or poor. It takes considerable will power to break the addiction, and people who are disadvantaged have enough trouble keeping their head above water without having to beat their support mechanism.

badbadmother · 05/08/2009 10:18

Those people aren't called 'poor' are they?

TrillianAstra · 05/08/2009 10:24

Loving use of "... for example, is a twat"

TeamEdward · 05/08/2009 10:27

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notsoteenagemum · 05/08/2009 10:29

BrieVanDerKamp, I took offence to nybom calling nursery workers 'these people' last week, she blamed it on the fact she wasn't born here, however she seems to be pretty eloquent in every other post.

SerendipitousHarlot · 05/08/2009 10:33

TeamEdward Andrex Velvet? When she could be spending her time knitting organic lentils for some nicer toilet paper??? Don't be so ridiculous. You must be one of those 'poor people' I keep hearing about

mammalovesit · 05/08/2009 10:34

" so the kids basically don't cost us anything" Did I really just read that!!!!

Mumcentreplus · 05/08/2009 10:37

Free kids?...bluddy hell mine cost a fortune!

ihavenewsockson · 05/08/2009 10:49

so you don't get child benefits then?

or does that not count?

StinkyFart · 05/08/2009 10:51

no no child benefit don't count, nor does tax credits doncha know

nybom · 05/08/2009 10:59

no, we don't get any child benefits.

also, i was talking about "poor people", not "people on benefits". obviously there are crossovers between the two.

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ihavenewsockson · 05/08/2009 11:00
ihavenewsockson · 05/08/2009 11:00

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why not?

StinkyFart · 05/08/2009 11:01

erm why do you not get child benefit?

That's odd

5inthebed · 05/08/2009 11:02

" FF babies "

Of course, because I only FF my kids to make myself look rich

Get over your jealous self will you. Why shouldn't people who live on benefits have a few luxuries in life?

FAQtothefuture · 05/08/2009 11:06

haven't reaht the whole thread - but in short

it's because we can budget - I dont' use credit (anymore)

a concept foreign to many on benefits and those working

FimbleHobbs · 05/08/2009 11:07

mmm popcorn... is it homemade and organic though?

SerendipitousHarlot · 05/08/2009 11:08
nybom · 05/08/2009 11:09

our income is too high.

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JemL · 05/08/2009 11:09

Child benefit isn't means tested - everyone gets it.

Tortington · 05/08/2009 11:09

for child benefit?

Tortington · 05/08/2009 11:10

duhhhhh

BrieVanDerKamp · 05/08/2009 11:10

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idranktheteaatwork · 05/08/2009 11:11

No you don't, it stops when your income reaches a certain limit. (v high limit)

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