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Alright luv? This isn't OK, is it?

137 replies

imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy · 16/07/2009 12:16

Need the mumsnet jury on this one - just to confirm that DP and I are right and his friend is wrong

DPs friend is a plumber, hes a lovely guy if a little OTT and hypercheerful, he always makes me smile. Thing is, he has this awful habit of calling women "luv" in the total stereotypical way that completely puts my back up. I forgive him because i know he doesn't mean anything by it and its just his way. But he has had problems with clients - why can't he understand that women really dont want to be called luv. It sounds condescending and patronising. Its ok coming from the old lady in the cake shop, but not from the plumber who is supposed to be entering into a professional contract and doing work in your house.

He says why should he change, its just his way - he is very "cor blimey ows yer father" and i do find it quite endearing, however the love thing does make my hackles rise.

Would it be a deal breaker for you if you needed work done in your home and the tradesman was "alright luv, dont worry about it, i'll sort if for ya" even if he is Mr lovely Smiley plumber? My DP is a carpenter and occasionally this guy has done some work for DP and vice verse and DP has had to tell him"for christ sake don't call her luv"

Your considerations?

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imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy · 16/07/2009 12:33

diedandgonetodeven "certainly not from trademen" And you think you are so much better than tradesmen because?

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mumblechum · 16/07/2009 12:35

I think it's nice to be called luv etc.

Stigaloid · 16/07/2009 12:35

Wouldn't bother me. Would probably find it a little endearing as long as not done creepily.

SerendipitousHarlot · 16/07/2009 12:36

'want yer plumbing sorted out?' or 'I could flush yer tubes out' or 'want to see me plunger?'

OP, I cannot believe that this offends you It's not condescending or patronising, it's just just a term of endearment!

imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy · 16/07/2009 12:37

I have to admit, i think i would prefer luv to madam. I think it is a matter of guaging - when you are dealing with a client you you think is more stuck up discerning, you should adopt an appropriate tone.

Mind you, my DP does something even more cringemaking - he always finds out their name and then proceeds to say "Ok XX" "thankyou XX" "we can do that for you XX" i have never known anyone able to say someone's name so many times in one sentence - Luv is starting to sound more and more attractive after all.

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Caz10 · 16/07/2009 12:37

at "certainly not from tradesmen" - helllooooo?! Are you my MIL?!

KittyWalker · 16/07/2009 12:38

Wouldn't bother either, see it as being friendly. Better than being called Mrs KittyWalker all the time.

BalloonSlayer · 16/07/2009 12:38

Have you asked him if he gets upset by being called a "tradesman."?

I suddenly have the mental image of you all being Margo Leadbetter tapping away in your drawing rooms while your "daily" does the dusting behind you.

ilove · 16/07/2009 12:39

Oh dear...I call everyone "love"!

I'm a Yorkshire girl though...although I do have a proper "BBC" voice...so it probably sounds rather incongruous!

imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy · 16/07/2009 12:40

For the record, it doesn't offend me AT ALL. It makes me cringe inwardly but it doesn't offend me. I have just posted because DPs friend has had a couple of run ins with clients who have gotten cross because he has called them luv.

He told them to bugger off as he didn#t like their attitude, which is fair enough, but he wont have many clients if he fecks off all the ones who a bit precious

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snice · 16/07/2009 12:40

diedandgonetodevon : do you make tradesmen stand on a sheet of newspaper a la Margo Leadbetter?

wasabipeas · 16/07/2009 12:42

Wouldn't bother me, but I live in sarf london

pamelat · 16/07/2009 12:43

wouldnt bother me. Would kind of like it in a comforting way.

However I would not say it to people, its not me.

MarshaBrady · 16/07/2009 12:46

Prefer people saying 'love' to 'madam', madam is far more irritating.

KingRolo · 16/07/2009 12:47

diedandgonetodevon - you sound perfectly charming.

angelene · 16/07/2009 12:49

When I moved to Wales it took me a while to get used to absolutely EVERYONE older than me calling me 'lovely'!

Not madly keen on any particular term of endearment TBH, I hate it from colleagues in particular.

proverbial · 16/07/2009 12:50

He doesn't presumptuously use the front door as well does he?

PuppyMonkey · 16/07/2009 12:51

It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. The price would be a deal breaker.

I would just say: "All right get on with it, mi duck" as I usually do with these tradesmen types.

pamelat · 16/07/2009 12:51

what I do find odd is when young girls, say 16-18, call me darling or sweetheart. This has happened a couple of times and always makes me feel a bit strange.

It somehow seems more overly familar from someone younger than you.

Bathsheba · 16/07/2009 12:53

I call everyone Angel, Kitten or even Womble....

No, would certainly not be a deal breaker for me..

stickylittlefingers · 16/07/2009 12:54

diedandgonetodevon - if you really have - how do you cope with people calling you "my lover"? Please don't frequent Barnstaple's panier market... But I miss it!

Orl roight moy Luvver?

Ooop here it's all Flower and Petal. I think it's cute!

Tortington · 16/07/2009 12:54

wouldn't bother me

i really hate mate from a man to me.

darlin', luv, chuck, fine

mate gets on my tits.

KittyWalker · 16/07/2009 12:54

lol womble - love that!! What makes someone a Womble Bathsheba?

bedjumper · 16/07/2009 12:55

wouldnt offend me OR make me cringe

bamboobutton · 16/07/2009 12:58

i feel so old if I'm called madam.

i much prefere luv, darlin', sweetheart and even Miss is better than madam