Omfgg i so wanted to say something!!

[TheLadyEvenstar]

I was just walking along with ds1 and ds2 and I saw this little girl a bit younger than ds2 in a stroller, my first thought was "Oh unusual for a girl she is not very pretty" I looked up from the pram to see her parents a woman who looked about 15 and MY EX HUSBAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I should probably explain, I got married in september 2003 and in October 2005 he left me. his reasons? well he had got his leave to remain in the UK and his passport. It was not until we split I found out his father had a wife already lined up for him and had done for 6 years. SO basically he married me so he could bring her over.

I am not sure how I feel I know I have moved on and had a baby with my new partner but.....
before we split he made me go through hell and always told me he couldn't have children.

Rubbish. There are lots of ugly people in the world, noticing it does not make you shallow. It means you are perceptive and discriminating.

I am shallow! People say it like it is a bad thing, but really I live quite a happy life not worrying too much about things, not worrying what other people think about me.

I would rather be shallow than angsty.

Sign me up for shallowness in that case.

Oh look a baby.

It is very hairy/bald/big/small/red-faced/screamy/funny-looking/snotty/smiley

wow I can't imagine a life where you only think good thoughts!
probably why I don't go to church - I'm just not "good" enough!

Not offended, just think you are a bit loopy

Actually it would be quite nice to walk around with rose-tinted spectacles and think 'how beautiful' a lot.

Come on we've all seen a baby and all we can find to say is 'cute' because the little thing is quite ugly.

No need for the face, and I didn't say thinking unpleasant thoughts was perceptive.

If you can call us shallow for thinking that babies and children exist on the full range of beautiful - attractive - average - funny-looking - ugly, then surely we can say we find it a bit weird that you think children can only be beautiful. You insulted us, not tother way around.

Total not that it was not tempting!! lol

damn what an ugly baby

aah mutt you don't only think or say good things - phew!
twat's a bit harsh though!

Details, details. You see babies as being only -looking. I see that babies are just as likely to be ugly as grownups (although more likely to be cute-ugly). Is this really somehting to fight about?

Mutt, if you look I never once said I saw her as ugly!!! I said she was not very pretty and was very boyish looking.

I can't remember who seemed to think I meant that boys are not handsome/stunning etc but what I meant is she was not very pretty and she also looked like a boy. is that better worded?

This is mumsnet - we are allowed to say babies aren't pretty. That's the POINT.

TLE - what an evil git. I hope he is very miserable and unhappy for you.

Aren't all babies ugly anyway? I've only ever seen one that wasn't, and that was possibly due to the hormonal fug of new parenthood. I have looked back at photos of theose heady newborn days and thought ... if I am honest.

He's lush now though

Orange, I could wish the same but then that makes me as low as him lol.

lol fair she wasn't a tiny baby just a bit younger than ds2 who is 20m.

'Expat, I did but by then he had his leave to remain. he was very cunning and stayed married to me exactly one month over the required time before he left. '

It can be revoked, you know. It was in the case of that terrorist guy who then went back to Lebanon for a visit.

I hope his penis turns green and falls off on your behalf. Perfectly resonable to think to oneself, not pretty baby, as long as you don't articulate it to the parents.

Well they obviously didn't revoke it as he is still here unless like his brother he changed his name???

What a twat. At least you didn't have kids with him and so you never have to see him again

Libra no I just blanked him, ds1 glared at him like he was something he had just stood in lol