ok...will try this again, aibu to be put off a school by the amount of children with SN?

[daftpunk]

posted this in education, (Pre-school, like the twit that i am).....my ds is due to start secondary school in 2 years so we're looking around already, i am a bit put off by a school with lots of SN children, as SN also means behaviour problems....i'm not sure if i am being unreasonable.

I don't want my children going to a school with judgemental, ignorant or stupid parents. I know this is a big ask, but when you have made up your mind on a school, do you mind letting me know which one you have chosen?

Heathen - I think your right that many agree with dp 'out there'.

If the op really chooses to believe that sn = behavioural problems = might hold her dc back...

Then I'm off bollocks to this. No good to be done here.

Can NT kids enrol at sn schools to be hidden from the big bad world?

ooo Riven. If sn = behavioural problems, and dd doesn't have them....then she's NT.

Slick! See you at Solfest

By which definition op is sn as I am feeling somewhat disrupted by her.

Rhubarb, you are talking rhubarb!
"No Fio, a child with SN has a statement. A child who has behavioural difficulties does not. A statemented child is automatically allocated a TA, a child with behavioural difficulties is not."

I reiterate - I work with children who do have statements for behavioural needs.

Also children with a statement (all types of SEN - physical, learning, behavioural, etc), may no longer be automatically allocated a TA under the new funding formula - the school has to decide how best to meet the child's need using the money it has been allocated. For example, this may mean a certain amount of specialist teaching from a specialist teacher for a set amount of time(which is obviously more expensive than TA time hour for hour) and TA support at some other times.

i'm worried my child will be held back by disruptive nt children my ds is very bright and loves to learn and so far the children ive seen who will be in his class are rude with bullish behaviour and are "normal"

don't be so ridiculous if your child is capable of learning your child will learn

disruption and frustration doesn't last all day for any child and many children well all children i know are capable of being like this

maybe its another excuse if a child is behind academically lets blame the sn child in the class who is probably excelling lovely academically even with the disruptions of the nt child

Rhubarb - You are completely and utterly wrong. Children can be statemented for BESD and it is considered a SEN. Statemented children do not all get one to ones it depends on the statement, you can quite easily get a statement that doesn't provide for 1:1 support.

Also you state that Special needs in education is a term reserved for children with a statement, again this is wholly inaccurate. You do noit really seem to understand the SEN Code of Practice or what BESD and other SEN entail.

As for the OP, a high number of badly managed SEN who are poorly provided for is problematic, a large number who the school have the resources to provide well for are not problematic! Depends on the school.

Daftpunk strikes again. Big suprise you now have a problem with SN kids, better add them to your long list.....

Well said londonone!

As for the OP, a high number of badly managed SEN who are poorly provided for is problematic, a large number who the school have the resources to provide well for are not problematic! Depends on the school.

oooh London that's what I tried to say but you put it so much better than me!

fiofio...that was totally out of order.

what attitude?......would you send your dc to a school where all the losers from the sink estate went to?

Fio I think it's pointless, she is loving it - she obv just wants a big fight as it excites her somewhat.

You are totally right but she's not gonna admit it so might as well walk away.

this thread is getting really funny tbh

That isn't the same argument as your Op,

Or is it?

You do realise that reads like you are comparing children with special needs to "losers from a sink estate" don't you?

Oh lovely another 'fucking durr' thread from daftpunk.

Always knew you were a troll. And don't protest innocence, because the choice is troll, or fucking moron to think you can post some of what you have and think that it's okay to be that ignorant.

Considering how much time you are on MN/have been on MN (I don't mean that in an insulting 'get a life' way!) I am continually surprised at just how small your world is.

YABU but I doubt you give a toss.

well, i don't want my ds learning how to roll a joint in yr 11.

Londonone is right, ds2 is on SA (being bumped up to SA+ Wednesday) and is included on the register of special needs

There's a massive issue on MN about the SEN / SN terms

SN and SEN are used in a diffeerent way on here to how they are used in Schools

In schools the register of SEN includes all children who have been identified as having issues that affect their schooling- SN, SEN, behavioural,emotional etc

All children are subject to the SEN code of rpactice no matter how severe they are, there isn't a severe SN level existent.
It's justa title for a procedure.

However on MN SEN refers to kids with SLD- dyslexia, etc- whereas SN tends to have the ASD / CP / kids, usually those who receive DLA etc and are registered with disabilty.

The two use terms differently and it causes confusion.

Of course, in relaity its a floating thing- a child with dyspraxia could fit into eitehr box for example- and it is tolerance that we need not strict guidelines

OP is just TRYING to get this reaction, stop giving it to her, it's a waste of your time.

Daftpunk, Good God, will you think before you post!!!