To be really mad because a woman just told me morning sickness is psychological?

[Lishylooloo]

I'm 4 months pregnant with my second and just over months of awful morning sickness - well all day long sickness in my case. It was the same with DD1 - sick all the time, chronic fatigue etc.

I just met a woman who has three kids and said morning sickness is psychological - of course she didn't suffer from it at all and with her first didn't even know she was pregnant until three months. She told me if I didn't know I was pregnant I wouldn't have felt sick. Her doctor apparently agreed with her. Yeah right! I obviously subconsciously want to have what feels like motion sickness 24 hours and day and throw up etc. It's such a blast!

I didn't say anything to her but now I am just mad as hell. I'm a positive thinker and definitely not a hypochondriac! Where does this woman get off saying it's psychological? Does she really think that woman who suffer from morning sickness are mentally weak or what?

I was actually reading about this last night.
Apparently morning sickness is universal and people who suffer it are less likely to suffer miscarriage of birth defects.

The theory was is that it prevents you eating foods that may contain toxins that are harmful to a small feotus. Morning sickness appears in the first three months of pregnancy when the organs are forming. It usually subsides later on, when the babies need for calories and rapid growth takes over.

Menstrual cramps, morning sickness and labour pains have all been labelled as psychological at some point. Just a way of suggesting women are making a fuss about nothing.

When I was preg with dd1, I almost did believe that the whole morning sickness thing was... well.. a bit over-exagerated. And could be sorted out with a nice rich tea biscuit before you got out of bed. Suffered no morning sickness at all.

I left it ten years and then got preg with dd2. I learned what real morning sickness was then.

I agree, they do say that bad morning sickness is a sign that everything's just fine.

A so called friend told this to me (when I had just staggered out of the bathroom, green and ill, at 9 weeks with my first pregnancy). She is a smug cow and the friendship didn't last. I couldn't believe she could be so un-empathetic. She had two straightforward pregnancies and attributes everything to her general brilliant-ness.

Oh yes, of course something experienced only by woman is psychological! After all, where does the word "hysterical" come from... [grumbles with feminist outrage]. YADNBU - daft bint!

I had horrible hyperemesis with 3 or mine requiring a lot of hospitalisation and I have had this said to me by obstetricians too.I did fing hypnotherapy helped a bit, and I always felt better after a scan, though so whilst I think that psychological issues may contribute IMO definitely not the full or even the main cause !

YANBU

I suffered a very close bereavement on the day I found out I was pregnant with DC1. I had horrendous sickness, all day and all night for 20+ weeks. Couldn't even turn over in bed without throwing up. Got terrible headaches and just spent most of my time in bed. Lost weight etc etc. Had to go on to medication in the end.
I did think that maybe this was caused by the bereavememnt.
However, when I was pregnant with DC2, 7 yeras later, the same thing happened.Sickness that had to be controlled with medication.
Theory disproved.

What a nob, I hate people who disregard problems in pregnancy just because they didn't have any. Like some of you I had what felt like car sickness for 24 hours a day, and it could only be kept at bay by eating! It was crap, and under any normal circumstances if you were that sick for that long you would be off work, but no, because you are pregnant and 'pregnancy isn't an illness' you have to just fecking get on with it.

I would go with Picante's line, but I do love the tinkly laugh and 'Oh you are funny', I'm going to have to try and perfect that rather than getting stressed with people.

Oh and even if MS were due to psychological issues it wouldn't make it any less 'real' for the sufferer

Well my consultant said my dreadful morning sickness indicated a healthy progressing pregnancy - so nahhhhhhhhhh to that GP

All in the mind? Yeah right. Please vomit on her shoes next time you see her - and don't apologise!

OP - comments like this make me see red I am soooooo for you. You would be within your rights as a mentally unbalanced pregnant woman to slap the person and claim that was psychological too.

I am now seeing some light at the end of a very very dark tunnel of hyperemesis, and only then, at almost 19 weeks due to medication (although this only improved it over the last couple of months, not stopped it completely)

The impact of hyperemesis has been horrendous, and could have been more so if it continued, the pressure on my body physically, the weight loss, the chronic exhaustion, inability to do anything not even get out of bed and shower on some days. My work has suffered (including colleague relationships with those who do not understand why I could not drag my arse into work when I was being 'a bit sick'). The pressure on my relationship was tested to the max as my DH struggled to do everything as well as look after me, deal with my emotional state which was very negative, a life that evolved constantly around food, or rather food aversions. My DD suffered as I could give her no time.

Luckily for me I was not ill enough to be hospitalised as the meds worked quickly enough to stop that happening.

Luckily also that no-one dared suggest to me that all the stuff above was as psychological, suggesting that it was in some way something i could control. It amazes me that people can be so ignorant, like their pregnancy is how it is for everyone.

I really feel for you and hope that you are out of the hardest part and can start to feel good about yourself.

stupid cow. i just vomited up my watermelon at 28 weeks. oh so can't wait to give birth!

dozy cow - each time i was pregnant i found out due to me being sick morning noon and night! Would have bet a million on not being pregnant too. In fact the first time, i had a false negative test result so to your "friend"

{audrey - sorry to hear you are still being sick my lovely. I really hope you get a bit of a break soon. Have had a whole week off! and its made the world of difference}

{brilliant for the week off pavlov, i hope everything will gradually ease for you. i was only vomiting once a week for a bit, so i thought the sickness was more or less gone, but am back to every day now, sometimes multiple times, and feel exhausted, so have to go back into countdown mode - 11 weeks go! feel like the most pathetic pregnant woman ever!}

Hugs to you all with MS or HG

I had HG X 4 9though meds amde a big difference after first hospitalisation and drip).

osychological? My arse!

Even Mum could see it was real and she never ahd a day in eight pregnancies (and is certain the absence is linked to 4 stillbirths).

In teh Good Old days doctor were taught HG was a sort of psychosis, a nervous reaction to the state of being rpegnant. theoretically they now now better but we have to wait for the older generation of GPs and those they 'informed' to pass on before everyone gets the message

There have been a couple of medical articles that talked about there been psychological factors that contributed towards it. This research came out a few years ago and I remember feeling cross and pissed off when I read it. I had terrible sickness for 9 months. I think it said that the mroe stressed you are the more likely you are to have morning sickness. So when I'm not pregnant but stressed , how come I have no sickness then?

The only reason I was stressed when I was pregnant is because I was puking 5 times a day.

Just to be controversial , it's not necessarily insulting to be told that you suffer from a condition that's 'psychological'. Loads of conditions are just that. It doesn't mean that they aren't real, or don't have real effects, or can't be treated. 'Psychological' is not a synonym for 'non-existent'.

I had HE in both pregnancies - kept under control (just) by anti-emetics. I will happily admit that some of it almost certainly was affected by my mental state - I absolutely hate vomit, for a start, so all the vomiting made me vomit even more, IYKWIM.

Plus, as others have noted, tiredness and stress make it worse - and it's a stressful condition, so in that sense it reinforces itself.

I'm not saying it's all in the mind. But in a lot of cases, quite a lot of it might be in the mind. And that needn't be an insult.

Many sympathies to all who are suffering - it's hell.

I suffered with horrendous hyperemesis twice (multiple hospitalisations for fluids, nearly went into kidney failure with DS2). The vomiting was NOT psychological, but I found that the more stressed/anxious/upset I became, the frequency of the vomiting increased. Having stupid, uninformed people like the woman in the OP stste that it was all in my head (some consultants should get some empathy training) definitely made me feel worse.

PW is of course quite right- it's the results and illness that matters, not the cause.

Sadly though its used as a way of dismissing people- as in 'it's all in your mind, go away'.

Much as DH was told before he almost died as a reslt of severe depression- almost all in his mind? Absolutely. Potentially fatal illness? oh yes.

It's treatable when needed, well documented that it makes people ill and can be linked to PNND whens evere- therefor it deserves sympathy, support and when needed medication / hospitalisation.

oh, some idiots also think that cancer is caused by repressed anger. all that dis-ease bullshit.

just file her into the nut-job section of your brain.

So the hangover I had that lated for 4 weeks before I decided I was dying and dragged myself to the Dr who suggested I could possibly be pregnant before it had even crossed my mind was psychological?

silly bitch. vomit over her shoes before slapping her.

and second time around thevomiting morning/afternnon/night and in between sickness that lasted for 9 solid months, also psychological?

bollocks.

but even if it was bloody psychological it wouldn't have made me feel any better knowing it was.

The only way that is SLIGHTLY rue is that when you have morning sickness and DONT KNOW your pregnant you may keep putting it down to a bug.

SILLY SILLY woman!!!!!

rue was actually true

i also had some skinny bitch tell me at work that morning sickness was psychological. i replied that it may well have been, however that my leaning over the toilet bowl, heaving my guts out was not.

for you (and for me in the past!)