To be fecked off with the supermarket checkout woman

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We were in a well known supermarket. I bought the weekly shop and DD (15) was trying to buy 2 DVD's on her own cash card one was a cert 15. DD was 15 a month ago so was excited to be buying a 15 DVD with her own cash card but the check out woman asked her for ID!!!

At 15 she hasn't thought about getting ID. I was packing my shopping, £40 worth I should add, and minding my own business then saw DD produce a European Health Ins card with her name and dob on it but this flipping woman (she was an aussie juding by her accent) said she needed photo ID. I then intervened and said I was her mum she is 15 and this is ridiculous. I will pay for the DVD and she tried to tell me she was breaking the law by selling it to me.

She did let me buy it on my card, if not I would have kicked up a stink and she knew it. AIBU to be fecked off. The shape of things to come!! This should be stopped now.

Nahui. I'm at how you portray our teens I really am. FWIW my DD is a lovely, intelligent, sensitive girl who had never been in the scenerio you portray.

She wanted to buy 'sex and the city' DVD that she has already seen in the cinema and I am pleased to say it didn't corrupt her.

But we've all got to assume that all teens are drunken loons.

And all adults are paedophiles, unless they have a certificate to prove they're not. Like Ian Huntley had.

It's all a load of bollocks. All this ID crap is an absolute delight to criminals, who are much better at producing false ID, than we normal people are at producing real ID.

Oh come on, not all teens are lovely, many get so pissed on a Friday night they end up in hospital having their stomachs pumped, wasting valuable NHS time and money, if ID checks help stop teenage binge drinking/knife crime/solvent abuse GOOD.

< starts doing a brisk trade in aforementioned Socialist Worker >

ds is 17 but still has to have ID to buy a 15 game, even though he is known in the shop. I am glad, these laws are there to protect.

Thephamptonplopper, mines doesn't, she wanted to buy a 15 DVD at age 15 with her mum in front of her that's all.

I understand that and compared to the fags, booze and knifes, a DVD is fairly minor BUT these rules are in a place for a reason and the checkout assistant could have been fined or sacked if she hadn't asked for ID or just took your word for it.

For all she knew you were a mystery shopper.

My cousins in America had age 21 ID's from the age of 14.

There's a brisk ID card trade there.

It doesn't work. Teens continue to get drunk with false ID's and end up in hospital and civil liberties continue to be eroded, while grannies are stopped buying wine in the supermarket.

LOL. You really think my sense of entitlement to be allowed to buy lager for a slug trap at the age of 43 without being asked to prove I'm over 18 is depressing?

What a pessimistic sould you are.

No your teenager wouldn't do that abouteve

if you beleive that you are in for a shock later - or her mentor at uni is........

Just because a few teenagers can get fake ID doesn't mean the system should be scrapped, if booze/fags/knifes were freely available and no restrictions imposed we'd be in a right mess, with people who previously wouldn't have got blind drunk and smoked from the age of 7, doing it just because they can.

And did you not read my post? My cousins had ID cards with their photos, which said they were over 21, from the time they were 14. So did all their friends.

Trying to make our children civilised, cannot be achieved by making them carry cards.

HBLB this is what I'm trying to get to the bottom of.

Today was an example of the shape of things to come. Compulsory ID through the back door. Civil liberties being exploited. Anyone can be refused anything unless you are carrying your photo ID. It started in the States and it's creeping in here now. Either we make it the law to carry ID or we don't.

I and DD were very shocked at what happened today. She will learn to abide by it after all she is young. I have told her she will need ID soon when she wants to buy a drink from a bar etc. Didn't realise it would be so young.

Judging by the reaction on here everyone will have to get used to it.

But most people are used to it already aren't they? They didn't bring this law in last Wednesday, ID has been required as proof of age for ages.

Well I'm old. So it is a shock. I've never been asked for ID, mainly because by the time it became an obsession, it's obvious to even the most short-sighted that I'm well over 18/ 21/ 25/30/ 40.

But that's the absurd thing. I'm more likely to be asked to produce proof of being over 25 now that I'm patently decrepid, than I was when I was young. It's just irritating. I've no objection to ID checks in principle, it's the complete suspension of common sense and community values that goes along with it, that pisses me off.

HBLB, just read your last post. It will be a joke I agree. Fake ID's for the ones who want to break the law.

Poor DD, today, who doesn't have a delinquent bone in her body made to feel like a liar and having her mum's integrity questioned at the check out over a 'sex and the city' DVD. Because it never crossed our minds that she needed photo ID.

StewieGM, creeping erosion of our civil liberties is important.

That's how these arseholes win - because we all think "oh well, it's just a DVD, it's no big deal". So we don't object, because we feel idiots for over-reacting to something so trivial. And each time we don't object, we make it easier for the next erosion to take place.

So in the end, when we have to produce ID cards wherever we go 20 years down the line, we can't pin-point the exact time when this first started happening.

Had to laugh at this. Today I went into Scotmid. (Coop) Bought some groceries and added a bottle of wine at the last minute. (empty now) Went back to the car and thought: should get some fags too. So loaded shopping in the car and went back to same cashier as 1 minute before. Asked for the fags and actually got id'd. don't mind so much (is flattering really, considering I'm 29 tomorrow) but I told her: I just bought a bottle of wine 2 minutes ago and didn't get id'd but I do for cigarettes? She said: Cigarettes are worse than a bottle of wine. So, I said: I'm sure that's true in the long run, but the cigarettes weren't actually for me and the wine was. And if it says 18 for both you should have id'd me for both!

Basically: I do think they should ask for ID, but think they should be consequent. If her reason for not asking for id for wine was that it wasn't as bad as fags, then something like a dvd realy shouldn't be a problem!

oh and lol at pubs not serving drunk people.

Because they really give a shit about the law in that circumstance don't they?

Hence the town centres of so many places in Britain heaving with vomiting teenagers on Friday and Saturday nights.

Because of these responsible publicans assiduously obeying the law.

Anyway I'm going to bed, sorry if I'm being rude in the middle of a discussion am overcome by sleep. Good night.

Stewie, at least this thread will make others realise that their kids need photo ID quite soon.

FWIW, DD is going to the post office to get a citizen ID card pretty soon after this incident. My integrity was questioned today at a well know supermarket. I was very fecked off and still am but obviously I should abide by the law from now on.