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to think that my darling teen niece has lied about something so serious she has potentially ruined someones career?

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ReesiRoo · 13/06/2009 11:37

My lovely neice is 13 years old. Since the start of secondary school at age 11 she has been bullied. Although it has been all verbal and never violent, it has had a huge impact on her life and i've seen her go from a bubbly, confident girl to one who sits in her room constantly and doesn't know how to communicate anymore. It got to the point where DNeice was getting abuse from most of the kids in the class at every lesson, at break time, walking home from school, so it was happening several times a day. She is very bright but hates school or anything remotely academic as a result of the bullying.

My sister (neices mum) knows all about the bullying but has as much told her to get on with things and tell the kids to fuck off. Easy enough if neice was like that, but she is so painfully shy, it is never going to happen. I have thought about going into school to sort it for neice, but I didn't want anything bad to come of it, like making it worse for her, or my sister and I falling out. My neice has asked sister to move school on so many occasions, but Dsis has always refused, just for an easy life I suspect.

So now after 2 years of this DNeice has made an allegation towards one of her teachers. I can't go much into it but the teacher has been suspended and police have been involved. Dsis is STILL making DNeice go to school while all of this is happening and somehow, the kids in her class have got to know about it and as you can imagine, her life is a living hell with all the questioning and pointing, and word spreads quickly, so most of her year know about it now.

Thing is, I think my neice's allegations are false. I completely understand her reasons for coming up with this allegation, she wanted a way out, a way to actually make sis send her to a new school as it was probably the only way for her to get out of this hell hole of a school. I don't know what to do. If I ask DNeice directly, she will think I don't trust her and I am really the only adult figure in her life who she sees as reassurance and trustworthy, someone to talk to (least I hope she feels that way). Please advise.

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RealityIsMyOnlyDelusion · 13/06/2009 19:36

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Ronaldinhio · 13/06/2009 19:39

God violethill hope you aren't a maths teacher!!

violethill · 13/06/2009 19:42

Just very committed!

foxinsocks · 13/06/2009 19:47

it's not a real post laurie

mumsnet imo, are often doing more than you realise behind scenes I think

TotalChaos · 13/06/2009 19:48

looks like this is fucking disgraceful trollery

BoysAreLikeDogs · 13/06/2009 19:52

Oh my word

aristocat · 13/06/2009 19:59

must be a sicko to make something like this up !

expatinscotland · 13/06/2009 20:04

I feel like such a mug for putting forth how it feels when you know the criminal justice system won't believe someone who's been pinned down and raped and the whole time this fucking lowlife troll was just making it all up, then rubbing salt in the wounds of everyone who's been abused or raped by making out like the person she made up was lying about it all.

You're a real scumbag, Lola, whoever you are.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 13/06/2009 20:06

God expat

expatinscotland · 13/06/2009 20:11

Yeah, to think someone went and did this for fun. How fucked up. Not being believed is why a lot of people just keep their mouths shut and perpetrators are able to continue doing what they do. A lot don't even think they've done anything wrong. They're of the, 'Well, you drank a lot with me and let me start in on you.'

This is where some get the idea that 'no' or 'that's enough' doesn't really mean just that.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 13/06/2009 20:12

Oh mate, got no words x x x

OrmIrian · 13/06/2009 20:14

Well I'm glad it wasn't real. Troll or not.

chegirl · 13/06/2009 20:14

Expat. I am sorry. How crap.

But you did a really good thing and that is NOT changed because of some moronic troll.

There sure does seem a lot of it about. The namechanging thing has been happening a lot too.

expatinscotland · 13/06/2009 20:15

I'm glad it's not true, too.

foxinsocks · 13/06/2009 20:18

well you know what expat, perhaps someone else read what you posted and has found your advice really useful. I am sure that will be the case, if the thread stays.

Sorry you feel conned though, is shit, I know.

'Well Im not the worlds most masculine man
But I know what I am and Im glad Im a man
And so is lola'

a hairy knuckled one at that too

expatinscotland · 13/06/2009 20:20

It's a great song, fox, and much better than Barry Manilow's Lola, who was a show girl.

CrushWithEyeliner · 13/06/2009 20:26

you have to laugh or you would just cry from this sort of shite.

scottishmummy · 13/06/2009 20:33

lola always makes me think the madagascar penguins

Stayingsunnygirl · 13/06/2009 20:35

Smile and wave, chaps, smile and wave.

MySilencedPast · 13/06/2009 20:41

i would like to tell a little story, so please bear with me.

when i was younger i told a huge lie. the consequences could've been devastating. the only person i confessed to was an older female relative, who has kept that secret to this day.

i came from an abusive home growing up. my dad would threaten if i ever dared to leave home, he would find me and make my life so miserable, it wouldnt be worth it. how more miserable i thought, so at 16 i ran away and went to live with my birth mum.

when i escaped my father, my past seemed to be in my thoughts constantly. that lie.

still, i went on to achieve a life for myself and found myself glued to internet forums, one in particular, and i grew close to some of the other women there. i didn't have many real friends, so this was the next best thing. i loved my nights socialising on there til i recieved a private message. it eventually dawned on my that it was my father. i have never felt so many painful tingles in my spine as that night.

my then dp told me that he cant find me in RL, so to keep strong and keep posting under my name, but to lose his track, i posted utter crap under a new name. just twadle about my daily life, just he didn't know this was me and i felt comfort that i could use this nickname to post anything more personal that might give him a lead in finding me.

all this time that lie hung over my head. i felt so ashamed, constantly wondering if the fact i'd told this lie meant i was an evil bitch, so i posed under my new nickname as that trustworthy older relative i'd told and gave the detailed account of exactly what happened that day through her words. that way, i didn't have to re-live the pain of having to tell it through my words, so i told them and wow, the response was amazing.

they made me feel like it was not my fault, that i was not some evil little bitch who had purposely gone to muck up lives. unfortunately, because my friends on the forum didn't know why i had namechanged, when i posted more details under my regular nickname, i was outed. i was called some horrible names, people said horrible things. they didn't understand what had happened. who could blame them, but that point in my life made me so suicidal. it was without doubt, one of the hardest things i've done in my life confessing all on that forum. now, i wish i hadn't.

sorry, not so little, but just wanted to say that sometimes, things are not always black and white.

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AitchTwoOh · 13/06/2009 21:04

how do you feel about the older female relative, who kept silent? because i think if what you are saying is true, she did you and whoever else it affected a big disservice.

and yes, i'm with reality. you really shouldn't toy with people's feelings, it's not right. i can understand the instinct to test the water on a forum, and work through hypotheticals, but fair's fair, if you arse it up and get caught out, you should take it on the chin.

kalo12 · 13/06/2009 21:06

i think you need to speak to your sister frankly. it sounds to me like she needs to really take on board what is going on here with her daughter.

personally i think if the allgations are false then one would hope they will get to the bottom of it, i don't think you can feel responsible for that.
But I do think that if you think your niece woujld go to such lengths then the situation is very very serious and you owe it to her and your sister to intervene immediately.

dittany · 13/06/2009 21:07

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MySilencedPast · 13/06/2009 21:07

Yes I understand but do you understand and accept that things aren't always the way they seem and that there is just a sprinkling of possibility that there may be truth in this, just that it has been done about in such a back-to-front, higgledepigglede way that it made people point the finger more quickly?

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