to have voted for the BNP today

[AnonymousAnnie]

and feel that I should keep it a secret (have name changed obviously) for fear of being lynched!!

It is a perfectly legal party that has been totally demonised in the media. I was even worried that I may be able to be traced from my ballot paper but I took the risk and voted for them because all the other parties are the bloody same and none of them have the guts to sort this country out. Suppose I'll never get to heaven now .

cory... I think londonone probably knows this to be true but for some reason is enjoying the fact that by accusing me of lying is winding me up!

School is forced to drop Halal Christmas meal plan

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Published Date:
18 November 2006
By Paul Whitehouse
A HEAD teacher who planned to serve only Halal chicken at her school's Christmas lunch has backed down after a protest from parents which attracted the backing of an MP.
Twenty per cent of pupils at Oakwood Comprehensive in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, are British Asians and head teacher Jan Charters said the idea had been intended to extend a spirit of inclusion throughout the school.
Under her plan pupils would hav
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e had the option of a sausage rolled in bacon served with the chicken, but parents objected to the scheme claiming it would undermine the traditional British Christmas.
They were backed by Labour MP Denis MacShane who said no child should be asked to eat food which did not match their convictions and called on the school to offer a choice on the festive menu.
His request has been accepted and children will now be able to order turkey and a vegetarian option in addition to chicken slaughtered following the Muslim Halal principle as part of the £1.75 meal.
Dr MacShane said: "No child should be obliged to eat food that is contrary to their personal convictions or religion.
"Schools should offer a choice and not allow the joyous celebrations of a Christmas dinner to become a divisive issue."
The head teacher explained the situation by saying: "This was an attempt to extend the spirit of inclusion which would allow Muslim children to sit down and enjoy a meal together.
"It is very frustrating that people find motives which are not present and we will not now be doing this."
The Halal method of slaughter is decreed by Muslim law but is controversial because it is performed with a single cut to the throat, which has been criticised as inhumane by independent advisory group The Farm Animal Welfare Council.
They have called for that slaughter method to be banned on the grounds it can cause severe suffering to animals.
However, the school's food suppliers insisted the technique was humane.
Ms Charters added: "The way in which the catering company works, and I believe it is the case in other schools, is that quite extensive amounts of meat will be Halal.
"We secured assurances that the slaughterhouse we were dealing with was correctly certified to be killing humanely and all animals were stunned
"When we discussed the Christmas dinner we said that there was nothing to stop anyone from eating the main course because it was Halal although the Muslim pupils will not eat the sausage and bacon rolls.
"Chicken is chicken as far as I am concerned but there will also be other choices on the menu apart from a Christmas meal," she said.
Parent Rachel Johnson, from Kimberworth, who has two daughters at the school, said: "This is not a racial issue. Why can't the non- Muslim kids enjoy traditional Christmas fare?
"Why can't we have a choice of chicken which suits everyone, Muslims and non-Muslims? We bend over backwards at Eid to eat traditional Muslim food, so why should we have to change our Christmas tradition?
"This is a multi-racial, multi-religious school and should be catering for the needs of everyone not just the Muslim section."
Rotherham has 16 comprehensive schools, with 14 using in-house caterers and offering a choice between Halal and conventionally slaughtered meat.
Coun Mahroof Hussain said: "Christmas is an important time in everybody's life in Britain and we should celebrate it.
"If we are talking about food maybe we should have choice but that is a decision for the school governing body.
"I support the head teacher's aim in getting all students together at Christmas in a spirit of unity ? Muslims, Christians and people of no religion," he said.

YOUR VIEWS:
S. Blyth, Milton Keynes: "I can't see what the fuss is about. It's not as though the Muslims would object to everyone eating bacon butties to celebrate their festivals, is it?"

Stephen Jessop, Brighouse: "Neither adults or children should be forced to eat halal meat. My children were horrified when they learned how the animals were slaughtered. This aside, from a business point of view you are limiting who can supply the meat and giving certain suppliers an unfair advantage. I understand the sentiment but just as Muslims only eat halal meat others and their children should not be forced to eat it."

oooohhkaaaay......but do you need to vote in the BNP because of a school menu??

re tracing you through your ballot paper and I apologise if someone has already said this but yes you can.

I have worked as a polling clerk and when you hand your polling card over we have to say "and you are mr Paul Jones of 123 Anyold Street" (just in case your polling card has been nicked, yadda yadda) then we cross through your name on our big sheet of names and we write the corresponding number next to your name on the voting slip.

They tally the number of voting slips handed out against the sheet. It is all very official, complete with wax to seal the ballot box at the end of voting!!!

We had a man throw the voting slip back at us as he was convinced we would trace his vote believing himself to be important enough that someone would wade through hundreds of ballot papers to find his

So yes, theoretically your vote can be traced but I wouldn't know why anyone would. Although in this case I would love a list of BNP supporters, name and shame.

i assume the school normally serves up free range chicken which the non muslim parents all fully approve of? i mean, as they are so concerned about animal welfare, they won't have been serving up shitty scraggly caged burds will they? and if not then i assume they'll have taken it to the head and the press to make an issue of animal welfare in all school meals..free range eggs etc in all the cakes and biscuits..

Sorry should have added that I ploughed through 11 pages before posting, therefore I hadn't read the next 7 pages

'A HEAD teacher who planned to serve only Halal chicken at her school's Christmas lunch has backed down after a protest from parents'

So, which part of 'backed down' did you not understand?

"This is a multi-racial, multi-religious school and should be catering for the needs of everyone not just the Muslim section."

Issue was resolved, so tell me, why did you vote for them?

ivhadenuff

Pray tell, what are the economic policies of the BNP that will help the UK out of the recession?

The UK economy relies on the influx of foreign investment. Will the BNP only accept invesment from WASP (white anglo-saxon protesants for those who don't know the term)?

Where will the BNP purchase oil from as most of it comes from the Middleeast which is filled with Muslims that they hate?

The NHS functions because of the large number of non-whites who work there. Where will the BNP find the workforce with the skills, competency but most importantly, the work ethic to do the jobs that are currently filled by Johnny Foreigner?

Where will the beer swilling, overweight thuggish BNP supporter get their late night kebab when they kick out all the Turks and Greeks?

Hi, That's not the only reason i voted for them, there are many, and until one of the mainstream parties address the concerns of the majority, you will find more and more people will vote for a small party that is addressing there concerns. Government is for the majority, not the minority, even people of Caribbean or Asian descent have said the are concerned about the immigration crisis, for me, it's not about the colour of some ones skin, its about British Jobs for British people, including British asians,and British afro/Caribbean, Like the person said earlier, look what happened in Germany, don't try and tell me that all the germans wanted all the horrendous things to happen, and that thy were all fascists. No! What happened was the big party's stoppped listening to the indigenous people, and they all protest voted. I'd prefer not to go down that rd, but no ones listening to us when we say why should e be ashamed to fly the union jacks, to love the British culture? Every party has racists, the Tories, labour, even lib dems. but you cant tar the whole party by a tiny minority of unintelligent citizens.
Im tired of being accused of things, im tired of political correctness, the like we all see on the news thats has us all shocked. I could go on and on, but i wont, cos i do not need to. im happy that now you ultra left wingers are starting to realise that English Welsh Scottish nationalists have a voice too.

You voted BNP because you were unhappy with your school menu.

Right.

And this story is three years old! Can't you find something more recent to be so furious about?

You do realise that the BNP don't believe that British Asians exist? They don't think of anyone born in Britain who is of Asian descent as British.

Spokette, We have no chance of controlling the economy or getting into the position of serious govt for at least ten more years of political growth, they acknowledge that on the party website, that's why i say, ladders and rungs, we have taken a substantial leap today, no 1 can deny that. no 1 is. Its a democracy, we can vote for what we feel, its called freedom. and i intend to fight for the right to do so. we fought 2 world wars for that, least my grandparents did.

Ivhadeenuuf - despite the fact that your views are abhorrent, your history is wrong. People in Weimar German (not the majority by any means) voted for the Nazis because they wanted the end of democracry. After years of economic crises following the first World War they wanted the return of an autocracy. There was no immigration into Germany so it wasn't a protest vote.
If you are going to be a raciost, be a factually correct one.

' in my own country '

actually it's not your own country ivhadenuff (it's spelled enough btw).

It's our country- as in the people who live here, regardless of colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation

How could I expect a party like that to provide support for my disabled boys? or my mentally unwell DH? It wouldn't, it's a self centred party fpor inwards focussed fuckups with an external locus of control that hap[pens to have landed upon the (ahem) 'racial foreigners' (or yo most of us here, our friends and neighbours, and family).

A party with such little empathy will find a reason to loathe just about anyone; look at the poem further down- the one about when they came for the communists etc- that's exactly how it would be. God forbid.

Yes - your grandparents would be turning in their grave if the could see who you are voting for. Their peers died so fascism wouldn't come to these shores - you have a master plan to allow them to. Ultra nationalism IS fascism.

And may I suggest that rather then being pro-BNP it would be simpler to canvas the school meals dept? Ours manageds a halal and non-halal option each day after all.

PS barnsleybelle londonone is also winding me up with her accusations of lying. She ignored all of my arguments and has dismissed all of yours. I'm not sure she realises how rude this is.

"the indigenous people". And, pray, who are they?

Do we chuck out anyone who came in the past 5 years, 10 years, a generation? Do we go back to the Battle of Hastings and chuck out anyone descended from the Norman invaders? Or perhaps even further and remove anyone who might have some Norsk heritage? What about all those Irish immigrants who landed in Scotland several hundred years ago - should we tell them to get out?

This stuff about "British jobs for British people" means nothing.

Britain is a country made by immigrants over a very long period of time.

And who are the racists within the other parties you speak of? Give us some examples?

If you really believe the majority of the BNP are not racist, then you are sadly deluded.

I think someone's said it before, but surely voting out of menu ignorance is not an excuse? I know enough about them to know that they are scum and that was when I first heard about them 15 years ago. They got chased out of the town which they are now trying to get council seats in.

The point I'm (failing at) trying to make is that people have and will vote for them out of ignorance. What about that woman who had a mixed race son and became a bnp councillor, she quickly saw the error of her ways and has now seen them for the people they are. She voted for them to sort out local issues but didn't realise the bigger picture.

These people will one day get in, I fear, but how the hell do we get them out once they are in and once the people who voted for them, realise they were hoodwinked??

yes..we did fight 2 world wars...and for what?...do vote parties like the BNP back in?...your argument is crazy...

Oh Gawd, not another BNP idiot going on about 'indigenous people'. Seriously, read a history book

@thunderduck,

Partys change, as people join, they get to vote on policy, and racism has been crushed in the bnp, see the party manifesto. the knuckle dragging skinheads of the National Front, that used to infest the bnp has been removed. people and parties change. Now we have people from ALL walks of life in our party. And all the judges and civil servants like myself who are banned from renewing our memberships now go down the route of the trafalgar club, a bnp trust where by membership of the party is not neccesary to be able to contribute funds, thus avoiding breaking the law. As a civil servant surely it;s my right to belong to whatever political party i choose?

clemette... i looked at a thread earlier that was about teachers talking about smoking to children... Londonone has even commented on you on that post!!! Of course she didn't mention your name... just commented about a teacher making comments about the bnp. What that's got to do with the thread i've no idea!!!