To remove the toy baby feeding bottle from my dd's new doll bath and feeding set?

[Springfleurs]

I was brought up to think that breast feeding was a strange and rather disgusting thing to do.

Luckily managed to overcome this myself and b/f both dc for 5 months and 14 months respectively.

Took dd to a toy shop today and she chose a doll bath and feeding set. Unpacked it for her when we got in and there is a feeding bottle in there. I know it might seem a bit precious but it irritated me slightly, as though it was a mandatory piece of equipment for all babies/dolls.

Or

I am taking it all rather too seriously?

I had kidney failure and was on a lot of meds, was told I would not have children but have been blessed with two
but the hospital told me not to BF, I trusted they knew best.

Nancy I am staggered by your knowledge of my memories, well done you.

However I must inform you that my uncle from Canada was at the wedding and I have never met him since. I remeber how he looked (scary - big ginger beard, beige shirt and a very big man - no photos available from the wedding I am afraid) and I remember crying my eyes out because family members tried to make me go to him. I remember how scared I felt.

So afraid you are wrong.

SEE 13 YEARS ON AND PEOPLE STILL MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT I JUST DID NOT BOTHER...OH HUM

leonie do you need to put the boot in?if someone cites a reason do you ned to rock up and shout "simply not true" and oh my pal will back me up?mean comment

well,in absence of full details how would you know?

Kimi - I think you just need to bow to Leonie's superior knowledge over that of your medical advice

Not that you didn't bother Kimi. Many docs don't realise that there are bf friendly alternatives out there though. It's a shame that they don't.

Sunfleurs - you are wrong.
Like i said, you might believe you remember it but you don't.

somebody has told you that story and you think you recall it. It's called fasle memory - your brain, at two years old, is not developed enough to be able to store long term memory. It's called childhood amnesia. If you remember it you were much older than two.

Well as I said I have always been one to back up the rights of BF mums (look me up)

But yes you got me, it had nothing to do with poor health, 9 hour operations, endless drugs, trips to the hospital every other day, waiting (with both pregnancy's) to see if my body would fail if I would miscarry, if my one working kidney was going to give up on me, nothing to do with the fact having DS2 almost killed me and I still have health isshoos today....

It was all because I have lovely tits (no really I do) and I did not want some screaming brat hanging off them 24/7 spoiling them, they are for decoration and to please my man....I am a truly bad parent/person I shall go beat myself with a stick right now and beg my thick, poorly deprived children for forgiveness......

Ok, Nancy whatever you say.

but

"Infantile, or childhood amnesia is characterized by the relative absence of memory before 3 or 4 years of age. It is important to note that the term does not refer to complete absence of memories, but the relative scarcity of memories during infancy".

So if quality of milk is the issue leonie, why do you have ishoos with other people feeding a baby expressed milk out of a cup or bottle?
Your arguments are all over the place!

Leonie: you know you said that you didn't need to go out to complete your life? In your case, I heartily applaud that. Please. Stay in. Despite ff my DD, I am supportive of breastfeeding - I have many friends who chose to do that, friends I love and admire. But your particularly holier-than-thou brand zealotry is best kept contained, imo.

Now where did I leave those nipple tassels?

Kimi, dont let people get to you.

I FF through CHOICE (prepares for the slating from Leonie) and have absolutely no regrets. I don't plan on having any more children but would FF if I did change my mind in future. BF had absolutely no appeal to me and I didnt even give it a second thought despite the literature etc given to me by MW.

It had nothing to do with playing with dolls and bottles when I was little, simply my own personal choice to feed my baby as I wanted.

SM and VH your posts are all spot on.

This thread is not about FF vs BF. People who love to have a good old dingdong about that topic keep trying to turn it around but it is about a bottle. A bottle which could well contain EBM.

Rant and rage about formula all you like (although i think it is unnecessary to call people who use it unnatural and that their children are runts etc). If you are happy using those terms about people trying to get on with raising their children then that's up to you. This is about bottles.

Some people choose only to see bottles are filled with formula. Some don't. For some they represent normalising formula. For some they represent giving women choice.

The child will play with the toy in the way that they have experience of, if mum BF and expresses they will think the bottle has EBM in it. Plus I really don't know that playing with a bottle as a child is going to mean that the child will not want to BF. Many women had toys like these, we are many of us children of the 70s, and many of us BF. It's a toy FGS.

The direction this thread has taken is really bizarre, the oneupmanship of BF mothers had really gone into the stratosphere. It's not longer acceptable that a child just have BM, the method of delivery is subject to scrutiny and "good" and "bad" judgements as well. More than one person on this thread has had this attitude.

And again the flat refusal to empathise or understand anyone in a different situation to their own. I cannot see how it is helpful at all. In fact it's rather pathetic.

Oh this is scary now.

I can't believe the arrogance of some of the people on here.

Nancy66 knows Sunfleurs memories better than Sunfleur.

Leonie knows that Kimi's hcps were wrong 13 years ago.

Leonie I would have thought that having been told that she wouldn't have children, Kimi realised that doctors weren't always right and would have questioned their advice on other things.

Nancy - I also remember things from around 2y of age. No videos, no talk. In fact, I surprised my parents when I related it to them some time in my 20s. But then again maybe they were false memories

winnicott said we should aim to be good enough mums not perfect,good advice eh

And Kimi damn right. When your consultant doctor at the hospital sat you down and told you that it would be better for you not to BF you should have told him that his years of experience in his specialised field were worth jack shit and that he should fuck right off.

Obviously that is what any sensible person would do.

FFS.

I was just glad to have a healthy baby tbh when I had DS1 , and I was just glad DS2 made it after a stint in scbu.

I admit it was good that DH could do feeds as I was washed out.

I have just realized that I have failed my sons even more as they had dolls pushchairs, irons and ironing boards to play with OMG fil was right I have made them gay...please someone call SS right now and save my children from me

Why on earth would SS need to be involved if your son's WERE gay Kimi?

blimey - why are people getting so het up about it.
when people claim they remember things from babyhood - it's always things like: weddings, birthday parties, birth of a sibling etc - things that are documented in photographs/video.

i wet myself in the aisle at my auntie's wedding when i was two and a half. the family have talked about it so much that i think i remember it - but i don't...

stay put kimi im making that call the judgey squad will be right round,cart you away

I think people are getting het up because their memories above anything else really are their own and not for someone to tell them what they do and do not remember, it feels a bit invasive to tell you the truth.