to not want my dd's nursery to teach her to say "ta"?!

[mummy2isla]

Not to be snobby or anything .... ... but I HATE babies being taught to say "ta" - my dd (11 months) has just started in nursery and all the nursery staff tell her to say "ta" all the time - I don't like it, but have the feeling I would be a bit awful to ask them not to?

It is quite shocking that people can post seriously. Sometimes I think it's a kind of rite of passage on MN, you have to say you hate X, Y and Z to "fit in". And obviously laughing at small children because they might not be as clever as your adorable is acceptable.

oh yanbu

I would remove them immediately from the nursery and probably move area to somewhere your baby won't be indoctrinated by such colloquialisms and vile accents.

and as for moo moo for cow etc I think it is a bit sad that people don't do this with their little ones.

My boys loved to baby speak and they the older two speak really well now (DS1 is 3 and he totally knows which words are baby words)

baby words for babies.
have you met many adults that call a dog a woof?

Humans have an amazing capacity to appropriate word usage. BAby speech is not only lovely but been proven as a good way to improve language development and confidence.

That's the difference, I can take the piss out of myself and be called a chav etc, but when people post seriously it makes me wonder why I'm here. I just don't get how talking a certain way can make you thick. IMO very high class accents sound really twatish, all that oh la la stuff.

I'm with junglist. The whole thing sounds awfully rude and unpleasant.

I don't actually say 'ta', but I would never have the nerve to go and tell the childminder or anyone else that the way they speak is 'common' or wrong and that they and all the other children in their care have to change to suit my precious child.

In fact, remembering the extremely strict and confident childminder dcs had when they were little, it would have been far more likely for her to tell me what I was allowed to say in front of dd

(didn't half live in awe of the woman )

I expect my children to be able to deal with 'ta' and 'thank you' and 'cheers' and to have an idea of when to use which.

lord, cthea... so pompous, so happy to twist. read my posts. i find the blank uncomprehanding 'taaa-aaaah' unpleasant, and a blank uncomprehending anything sounds 'a bit thick' (not 'thick as shite' junglist, please don't be so tabloid). and yes, it was a joke, hence the wink. not that we're allowed jokes in your Brave New MN. nor are we allowed to express a preference for the way our children speak, lest we be accused of snobbery. fgs.

Fine, call me pompous, I'd rather be that than call a baby "thick" because he said "ta". That's just very ugly. I like a joke as much as the next person but to joke like that at some kid's expense because he appears "thick" is nasty. Tell you what, some kids are "thick". Shall we just have a good collective laugh at them?

yes. ahahahahaaaaaah.
ludicrous woman.

Ludicrous in your world where "thick" kids are a laughing stock.

I've reported your post, Aitch, for personal insults. Just goes to show how much you really care about manners.

Calling children thick or saying they sound thick is ugly. If that makes your character ugly, then that's how you've chosen to portray yourself.

ofgs, i was JOKING. you know i was, you pointed it out in your first post. you've got a bee in your bonnet over nothing here, stop picking a fight with me, it's embarrassing.

WHAT? why did you get that last message deleted? that is OUTRAGEOUS. a whole loooooong explanation of my position again, ended with a etc and you got it deleted, presumably because i said in passing 'you loon'? you've seen MN before, i take it? loon is practically an affectionate nickname.... fgs. and yet here you are calling me ugly etc for things that i haven't actually said. pretty sharp practice imo.

for the record, i said 'read my posts, i actually say ta myself, you loon' before explaining again about the blank rote-learning thing.

Aitch - I'm not on MN every day so I don't get the "in" jokes, such as "loon" being a term of affection. Are pompous, ludicrous and thick also terms of affection? I'd hate to grow up in your household. Shall we just leave it at this?

no, those are all plain old pejorative adjectives... but you're happy to be pompous, non? so long as i'm ugly?

and you'd hate to grow up in my household?
so i'm not allowed to say that saying 'ta-AH' in a blankly uncomprehending manner makes kids sound 'a bit thick' and please not the but it's a-okay for you slag me off at the most fundamental level and imply that i'm not a good mother? mmmm-kay... yeah, let's just leave it at that... very jolly.

please note the it should say.

is there something about 'ta' that means that it automatically has to be said in a blank uncomprehending manner?

while 'thank you' presumably is automatically spoken in a bright-eyed and truly appreciative fashion?

surely, they are just two different words that express the same sentiment?

and the fashion in which they are spoken is determined by the speaker?

or have we seen any evidence that the OPs nursery is teaching the children to say 'ta' in the proper blank and uncomprehending manner?

Now I think loon is a fairly harmless word. I'd use it interchangeably with muppet myself.

ah, but do you say it in a blank and uncomprehending fashion, OrmIrian?

yy cory, that's what the OP said she objected to, about halfway up.

ok fair enough, I missed that

but then we need a separate discussion for children saying 'thank you' in a blank and uncomprehending manner

and for children saying 'ta' brightly and politely

surely the blank and uncomprehending isn't actually what they're taught, though?

Yes, sounds like two separate discussions. The one I objected to, however much Aitch backtracks now, had nothing to do with the manner in which children reply, but with the words used.