to not want my dd's nursery to teach her to say "ta"?!

[mummy2isla]

Not to be snobby or anything .... ... but I HATE babies being taught to say "ta" - my dd (11 months) has just started in nursery and all the nursery staff tell her to say "ta" all the time - I don't like it, but have the feeling I would be a bit awful to ask them not to?

i say ta and i'm 34, don't see what the problem is. is it not obvious what it means?

Hmmmmmm, just asked parent of a child I care for who is now 3 1/2 if it bothered her that I used 'ta' when her daughter was younger. Her reply is:

'I think someone told me that it's bad for babies to use slang when they're learning to talk and you know I'm only happy when I've got something to worry about so maybe.'

Turns out that she is actually one of the most verbally able children I have ever met and it obviously never hindered her development in any way.

I think hobby worrying could be done with a trug and a floppy hat.

You could even be a gentleman/lady worrier similarly to gentleman farmer,

or a fair-weather worried who only worries when really big issue arise,

or a lifestyle worrier.

there's a sunday times style mag article in there for the taking, orm.

so you asked the mum and she said yes, it did bother her, star? and yet you seem not to have heard that part?

Er yes, I did hear that part, but she has also said that she used it herself and still does ocassionaly.

We all do things with our children that we said we would 'never' do.

Like when they ask 'why' for the 1,000,000th time say 'just because'!!!!

i never say 'just because'. arf.

Even my three year old asked another mindee 'why do you have to say why all the time' the other day. PMSL

Firstly can I just say I LOL at 'eating food she'd dropped on the floor (10 second rule - extended to up to a week for raisins lurking in the car seat)' we have exactly the same rules in our house!

Anyway, I consider myself to be pretty snobby in some aspects, I speak reasonably well, though somehow my siblings managed to grow up sound like extras from EastEnders , and for a while I told DH we weren't going to use 'ta' but then I got over myself and DD used it for a while, and at 23mo happily says 'peas' and 'ganku', albeit with prompting.

I also say change your bum and am genuinely puzzled at why it might be odd? I must admit I never liked the word belly before having DD, but then I rarely used the words 'doggie' and 'fishie' before having DD either, so I've just rolled with it.

I was however astounded to hear a old friend recommend me teaching DD swear words word while she is still young enough to forget them. Apparently is it sooo funny to hear a 2yo say 'bollocks'.

ditto 'bum' and 'belly'! It's all bottoms and tummies in our house.

It's having had all those DCs...I've tried WW but just can't lose it...

And I whittled about 'ta' when I just had PFB...it soon wore off...

And 'dessert' Orm. With you all the way.

If you dont like it, you dont like it so YANBU.

But I wouldnt worry about it. DD said ta, DS1 went straight to Thank You. Both went to nursery pretty young so got a mix of both.

I personally dont mind it and think its easier to get children to talk if you follow their babble. I work with children with severe language delay (DS2 is also v.delayed) and nothing is gained from talking 'proper' to them. We copy any noise they make to encourage them to develop language.

I have to say I wouldnt like my DCs to be taught bum instead of bottom though. I like to put off that particular addition to their vocabulary as long as possible. Once they know it they like to repeat it as often as possible.

isn't it funny how so many French words in English sound a bit like Alison Steadman should be saying them in Abigail's Party...

rofl olympede. That is so true ? I think it's because there are perfectly usable words already without importing any more.

Dessert is another shudder-maker.

Isn't it said that all those words we've imported from French, in the mistaken presumption it makes us sound more Hyacinth, actually do the opposite? Dessert is considered much more common than pudding, serviette (eeeeeuw) more so than napkin etc....(think it was my own particular language guru Bill Bryson where I read it ) (although I must admit, I can't see me ever being able to call it a lavatory)

Depends on where you live up north where I grew up(yorkshire) ta is a perfectly acceptable term for thank you used by children and adults alike. I now live in the south and whenever I hear northern colloquialism like ta, petal, love,ducks, sunshine I think how much friendlier the person addressing me sounds & how much I miss the north. It also has the advantage of being easy to say for v. young children instilling manners etc in them at an early age so naturally I taught to my dc to say ta as babies. As it happens I used it myself yesterday when I wrote a post-it note to one of my colleagues. I would have absolutely no problems if a nursery taught it to my dc so on that basis I think YABU.

I had a friend as a child that sai 'lavvy' Has put me off the word. Loo will do. Or bog

I like petal and duck etc. You get addressed round here as 'my lover' which is odd but undoubtedly friendly . Ta isn't friendly though IMO.

Just a quick link as I am supposed to be getting ready for work but am still in my pjs

How children learn to speak

Not only does it say most children speak their first word between 12 and 15 months (so, obviously most aren't able to say Thankyou at 11) it also tells us how using double syllables and adding -ie to words makes it easier for baby to learn them, and that 'th' and 'r' sounds can be quite hard to make. So 'Ta' is quite likely a problem free alternative to the almighty 'Thankyou'.

Down here in the south it's 'cheers' instead of 'ta'. At the only graduation ceremony I've ever attended, my colleague was much amused to hear the students say 'cheers' to the Vice Chancellor when receiving their diploma. Ah, the joys of higher education!

"kids who say ta rather than thankyou sound a bit thick." Lovely. Here they are, 12 months old and Aitch has already labelled them. Proud of this? Oh, I forgot, you put a smiley so that's just a little joke.

YANBU mummy2isla

ta is common and i cant STAND it when i see someone gave their child/mindee something and then the adult say ta and child repeata back

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

there is nothing wrong with children learning to say thank you and talk properly

often it starts off with coo, then dank coo, and eventually thank you

though once i did have a dc come out with a very clear wank you

Yep, it's happened again. Children who won't speak according to people's standards are common, and thick. Well me and my children are common, working class and proud. I'd rather talk how I like but be a nice person. I realise this is a mainly middle class site but it never fails to shock for some reason.

Yep, it's happened again. Children who won't speak according to people's standards are common, and thick. Well me and my children are common, working class and proud. I'd rather talk how I like but be a nice person. I realise this is a mainly middle class site but it never fails to shock for some reason.

Yep, thick as shite, posted twice.