to be pissed off at ''no dss, working people only'' when finding a house...

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i do f-ing work for gods sake!! just cos im a single parent and cant possibly work full time due to my situation and so need housing benefit to help me out with PART of the rent, why am i being turned away for anything decent?
it really pisses me off

Wotu - Yes it's tough but you may have to move somewhere cheaper and less desirable.

Peachy - It sounds like your OH supports you and HB would be a temporary measure.

I am fucking seething at your nasty comments. Buy-to-let parasites such as you caused all this housing shortage in the first place.

What she said

Oh and when I was on income support I also got more per month in HB than my rent costs. It's the LHA thing. Madness if you ask me but of course I didn't complain.

actually if I had 2 teenage boys and 2 under 10 it would still only be a 3 bedroom entitlement. Indeed even 4 children aged between 10-15 and a couple - also bedrooms.

'You asked me about wotu and I responded based on her posts which didn't mention children. TBH I think it is ridiculous that people in state funded accomodation are provided with extra bedrooms for children etc when plenty of people who are paying there own way have children who share rooms etc. So I haven't at any point said that an adult and 3 kids should share a studio but I do think kids can share rooms. I also think state funded accomodation should be seen as a temporary safety net in most cases rather than simply an alternative and if that means it is less spacious that private accomodation, then so be it. '

So

what you are essentially saying is sod the kids if their parents don't / cannot work?

Whilst what I would say is our kids are an essential resource; we invest in them, house them so they have better health (proven) and can study to achieve more in the hope that the cycle is broken. I would fight for that to continue because I think ist is probably one of the best things we as a society can do.

We do not penalise children for the health prioblems, disabilities, luck or even just failings of their parents or siblings. We recognise that a child is vulnerable and look at ways of maintaining their value to society.

Benefits essentially do that. People can become poor tomorrow for many reasons- sickness, illness of a relation, redundancy- and the existence of the safety net of the benefit system is one the most wonderful things we have in the UK.

nametaken - One my house wasn't buy-to-let and two I am paying full whack for my flat every month!

Seethe away, but I suspect you are the parasite.

'you and HB would be a temporary measure. '

Carers allowance as well, actually. But yes temporary, but for 3 years whilst he retrains as his industry is shrinking.

Yes peachy but it should be a net, not an alternative.

The thing is London 2 years ago you might have got away with this, I am hardly a socialist myself.
But now there is NO social housing, not even temporary it's a Bed and Breakfast which costs the government £50 per night or private landlords which means that anyone loosing their homes, for whatever reason is going to pay inflated rents to people such as yourself.

I actually agree that if people don't work they shouldn't have the comforts and luxury's that the employed enjoy but with 3 million unemployed before the summer you've got to wonder who actually will be picking up the tab for all this nonsense.
The very children you want in bedsits.

londonne - you know what - I would have rather lived on the fucking street than take my children back to the "less desirable" area (where HB would be paying me more than my rent would have cost).

Do you know why - because my DS1 still has a scar on his stomach as a constant reminder of the bullying and abuse we suffered there a few years ago.

I still remember the swastika painted on the front of our car. I would never have left the house after dark had I been living there on my own.

I'm supposed to live somewhere like that, where I would have been a prisoner in my own home - or perhaps (as I believe) my children deserve better than that. They deserve to be able to live in an area where they won't be racially abused, where they can play outside without fear of getting more scars on their bodies.

No thanks - I'd rather take the abuse from people like you who don't think I deserve to live here as I'm not currently working than put my children through that.

So how are you a landlord if you aren't on a buy to let mortgage ? I hope you aren't committing mortgage fraud ?

Peachy - there are plenty of things that you can retrain as that don't take 3 years!

londonone you said in your first thread

"YABU - As a landlord I cannot rent out to DSS tenants due to mortgage conditions"

So if you're a landlord, you've got tenants. And they pay you. So they're paying, and you'll reap the benefits because the house belongs to you and you and only you will benefit from any increase in it's value

So, do you or do you not own a property that you let out to other people? Coz in another thread you say

"
One my house wasn't buy-to-let "

So which one is it?

i had 2 options
let the housing exec move me and my 4 kids into a hostel miles away from their school, indefinatly
or private rent and claim housing benefit
which one would you chose?

FAQ - sorry for your past troubles - hope your happier where you are now.

As a recruitment consultant I've had clients say no blacks and no irish, now I could give him/her a lecture and not deal with them or I can get on with my job and d what the client wants because if i don't some other agency will.
But that's a whole different topic.

Sorrento - I mean the property was not bought as a buy to let, obviously I had to remortgage when I let it out.

FAQ - I am sure you don't want to live in the less desirable areas but guess what, someone has to.

harley - obviously you would make that choice, I happen to believe it shouldn't be a choice.

With respect it doesn't matter whether you are an accidential landlord or not the fact is you are and in holding onto your property but I guess you hope it will go up in value you are part of the cause of an inflated bubble. This has lead to many people either being locked out of the housing market altogether or else becoming homeless because they have over committed themselves financially.
Houses should be for living in and the sooner buy to let is taxed as the business' they are the better and the living in for 6 months loop hole needs closing too so capital gains tax can be applied.

DH would love to rent our house to a person / family on benefits.

Nothing wrong with my moral compass, I don't agree with discrimination at all but I have a family to feed too and my making a stand will not do any good at all I'm afraid.

'Peachy - there are plenty of things that you can retrain as that don't take 3 years

he's been accepted on a degree for lighting technicians. he has a small business which is doing OK but neds a degree to progress; it makes sense to focus n that because that will not only lift us out of dependency but also p[rovide (we hope) our disabled duo a chance to do something as adults in an environment that is crafted to them- a decent aim I think.

Most of our income will be linked to student loans / his business (ATM he ahs this and his proper job)_ but there will be a shortfall where HB provides. I know my Dh and he will work every hour he can to try and minimise that but he needs to look long term. It'sright we shouldn't want to be dependanta nd we don't, but it's also riht his life chances (such as a chance to get a degree) shouldn't be ended purely because 2 children develop autism and his wife has to be a carer.

Hoipefully before he qualifies I will get my PGCE and cover all bills for the final year, on;y one year of study left. but after that I can work around the boys and so,for the sake or sacrificing a few years financialsecurity, we will life secure. makes sense, to me.