or would it be reasonable to assume that if a parent isn't happy about a CM getting a dog then the same parents would .....

[Dillydaydreamer]

move house if one moved in next door or the next door neighbour got one?

or would that be nuerotic and hysterical?

eh? YABU

Sorry tamato, friend plans to get a staffie which will be kept in a run outside with a fence around that about 2ft away from the run, parents aren't happy, even though the children will have no contact what so ever with the dog.

Completely different scenarios IMO. The next-door neighbour's dogs would not be in the same house/curtilage/garden as the childminder.

If there was a problem with fencing, then I would expect the childminder to discuss with her neighbours.

If the dogs were capable of getting into the childminder's property I might rethink the situation wrt my children going to that childminder.

The two are not remotely alike.

i wouldn't want my childminder to get a staffie. or any dog. but then I am a bit funny about dogs.

I wouldn't care if my neighbour got one because my neighbour wouldn't be looking after my children

Sorry x posted.

Will the dog never be indoors? Do the children never play in the garden?

Surely this poses less danger to a child than a visit to the park where a dog is off the lead, or where a dog is in the next doors garden with a large holed wire fence between gardens.

And I have seen the other thread that shoshe had about her dilemma. In the end, she said that only 1 family would have left in any case.

WOuld feel a bit sorry for the dog actually. I don't think that them being left outside alone for much of the day is a good idea - particularly in terms of socialisation. Just generally think poor dog.

dilly... is your friend the childminder or just a neighbour of a childminder??

My friend has also had this problem. She started cm'ing, then got a big dog, kept it in a run in the garden, and a big cage in the kitchen, and still parents were very uneasy.

She lost jobs because of it, and now she has given up cm'ing because the dog is stressed and agressive after being cooped up and separated from its family for most of the time. It was supposed to be a family dog.

I cm also, and don't have a dog as we rent, and are not allowed. But if we were to ever own, I would love to get one, as would the dc. I would think very very carefully about the breed/size/age etc of dog, and talk it over with parents first.

If my dc were at a cms with a dog, I would have concerns, but not neccessarily remove them. It would all depend on cm and dog. I have lots of cm friends with dogs, and they have no problems at all.

Dog will only be indoors when the children are all at home. They play in the garden but there will be a second fence enclosing the run so no fingers can poke through the wire iyswim

the two aren't alike. but yes, if my kids were with a CM, and his or her nieghbours got a staff that could conceivably get near my children either unsupervised or when they were excitable, i just coun'd relax at work, plenty of CMs out there, nurseries, etc. sorry, but that would be a huge factor for me. they would be out of there. what is the point in taking the risk?

i'd like to see staffs put on the dangerous dogs list asap. madness the way every moron in london can get one.

why don't you all want labradors????

Still different. and now the scenario is changing from the neighbours getting a dog to children going to the park where dogs are off the lead.

The dog would only be in the run when her DH can't take it to work 4 nights out of 16 days and he will be off quite some time and have plenty of time to socialise and train it before he starts work.

agree with pscmum.

and the thing is it's very different taking your kids to the park where they "might" see a dog off the lead, and sending them to a childminder where you KNOW there is a dog.

i wouldn't like it. that's just the way it is, and I can understand why others wouldn't either.

you can't do much about neighbours, or dogs in park. but you can choose where you send your child to be looked after. and personally I wouldn't choose someone with a dog

i just would be really scared that it would get out. even in a run surrounded by a fence.

sorry.

No Pooka she is the CM.
My examples are that surely the contact or lack of means that the children will be safer than at those given everyday scenarios iyswim.

How would it escape from a padlocked run and a second fence that is bolted?

but PSCMum would you remove your child froma park if someone had a staffie on a lead, much more dangerous because of not knowing a) if the dog is well trained or b) how good an owner is.

But why get a dog when it will be locked away like this ? This is what happened to my friends dog - she was so busy as a cm, and responsibly kept the dog well away from the kids, but the dog suffered, it was not part of the family as it was intended to be.

i don't know. my friends dog jumped over a 6ft fence the other day.

it just might.

It was thisisyesterday who asked whether your friend was the CM or the neighbour.

I know that the CM is your friend and I did read the other thread

I read the other thread while thinking thank god my CM isn't going to get a dog, because I'm really not sure what I'd do in that situation. And trying hard not to be knee-jerky as a reuslt of not really being a dog person and not liking staffies/similar dogs in general.

I don't know - is a tricky one. I am loath to describe the parents as neurotic though. They are after all the parents and no doubt have their own children's best interests at heart.