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Daily Mail Bashing

162 replies

TheDrunkard2009 · 12/02/2009 14:23

I am a Guardian reader and hate the Daily

Mail, but FFS must have every fucking thread

I read bash someone's comment they don't

like and accuse them of being a DM reader.

It's getting fucking boring now, think up

something more original please, you're

obviously a bright bunch of women.

Thankyou

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Pruners · 13/02/2009 19:48

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kizzie · 13/02/2009 19:49

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nickytwotimes · 13/02/2009 19:56

I am a Grundian reading DM hater.

As others have said there ARE people who unquestioningly believe what is written in the papers. Dangerous whichever one you read of course, but the DM and the Express are so anti-immigrant/single mothers/working mothers that I personally find them unpleasant.

ScottishMummy · 13/02/2009 19:59

aha the ole the lumpen masses believe what they read in DM argument.but not you,obviously

ever so slightly sanctimonious

Pruners · 13/02/2009 20:02

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HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 13/02/2009 20:08

a friend of mine was trying to get me together with a friend of her's. I'd met him a couple of times and was fairly positive, then the third time when we met up in this cafe to go to the cinema, he turned up with a Daily Mail. That was it for me. I was absolutely certain I could never love a man who actually buys the DM. There would never be any future for us.

muffle · 13/02/2009 20:35

I read the DM when I can too (without paying for it that is) - because I love to hate it, and because for a ranting old feminist like me it's relevant to see where misogyny has its mouthpieces (it's certainly not JUST the DM either - look at Nuts and Zoo, Glamour, Cosmo... and the Guardian too in its way - tbh I also love to hate the Guardian.)

A writing tutor once told me always to keep an eye on the terrible stuff that's being published, to see how the whole system works and just how bad it can be, and keep a copy of a book you loathe to inspire you to do your best. (Mine is an angelina ballerina book but that's incidental... )

As for Hadley - she's just become the new ZW hasn't she. Zoe's preoccupied with being the first person ever to give birth and they've done that thing where they decide they like someone (someone pretentious, arch and lacking in logical argument usually) and just put them everywhere. The BBC do it too - I remember when you couldn't move for programmes presented by Feargal Keane. It's madness - it just puts you right off.

kizzie · 13/02/2009 20:40

HerBeatitudeLittleBella - you aaaaaaaaaaaaare joking arent you????

So you met a man who was kind/funny/solvent/sexy and then turned him down because he read the Daily Mail ????????????????????????

AitchTwoOh · 13/02/2009 20:53

i've met Hadley, i thought she seemed really nice.

i read both the Guardian and the Mail online. this is BAD because without a paper copy and a bus ride i just pick and choose the bits that interest me. so it's easy enough to miss the Daily Hate elements and stick to showbiz gossip (i confess i don't have much sympathy for nigella's fat knees) and with the guardian am strictly Media section.

and this pick-n-mix paper is precisely why print media will seem quaint in a decade.

PussyNoMore · 13/02/2009 20:56

Funny, when I hate a paper I can't even bare to pick it up.
I have often been stuck at the local barbers while DC is having haircut with nothing to read.
I would rather sit there bored shitless listening to their chit chat about the latest Playstation 3 games, than pick up copy of The Sun they leave lounging around.

PussyNoMore · 13/02/2009 20:56

Funny, when I hate a paper I can't even bare to pick it up.
I have often been stuck at the local barbers while DC is having haircut with nothing to read.
I would rather sit there bored shitless listening to their chit chat about the latest Playstation 3 games, than pick up copy of The Sun they leave lounging around.

AitchTwoOh · 13/02/2009 21:00

i love the sun. and the mirror. and the mail. i love any paper that's free and lying around, it's a wee window onto how other people inform themselves. worth reading in a know thy enemy sort of a way if nothing else.

ScottishMummy · 13/02/2009 21:04

quite,i wouldn't read the sun titillation just to see what they are saying?if i no likey
it

SalmonintheLiffey · 13/02/2009 21:06

Yes, it's lazy shorthand for I'm a really sound person and not at all stupid oh no not me, no siree.

I started a similar thread to this about ten days ago!

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 13/02/2009 21:07

LOL at your shock Kizzie. I'm not sure how kind/funny/solvent/sexy he was - I hadn't got much of an impression of him, but when I saw that DM, I just didn't find him sexy. It's the sheer philistinism of it that did for me. If it were the Telegraph, right wing rag that it is, I'd think he was wrong but it wouldn't put me off him. The sheer mundane dreadfulness of the DM does though. For me, it's like dirty finger nails - just an instant turn-off.

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 13/02/2009 21:15

My mum reads the Sun and leaves it lying around the house for the children to admire the soft porn.

But I always read it - it is, like the Mail, an extremely good product for what it is. They are the most consistently best selling dailies in their market for a reason.

FattipuffsandThinnifers · 13/02/2009 21:16

I have more respect for the redtops than the Mail and Express (which for years was just obsessed with Princess Diana & the McCanns) - and am coming round to feeling that way about the Guardian too, at least since Hadley bloody Freeman has become writer du jour, as she might say. At least the Sun, Mirror et al are straightforward. And the standard of journalism is actually pretty good, even if the slant of editing questionable.

Aitch, was Hadley Freeman really nice? Weren't you even just slightly tempted to kick her surrepticiously?

I have met ZW and she really was nice, very bright, fun and friendly.

AitchTwoOh · 13/02/2009 21:22

i think we just have differing tastes, fatti. for i am Not A Fan of ZW.

as it happens, working on the sun and the mail is a highly skilled job in terms of creating the right tone. most journos couldn't do it. i couldn't. i used to sub on various papers, but i'd never have got work on the sun, those subs are hard core.

muffle · 13/02/2009 21:49

Yes I admire the Sun too. It's full of shite, but it doesn't pretend otherwise and as has been said it does what it does very brilliantly - a bit like Viz.

It's interesting this question of "how can you read it if you don't like it?" I read everything. I would rather (and have) read shampoo bottles and bank leaflets - and even Horse & Hound at MIL's - than be bored shitless with nothing to read. If I see the Sun or DM lying around in a pinch I think "woohoo!" And it's not that I agree with them - I'm way more feminist and lefty than the guardian, let alone the right-wing press. It's that I just have to hoover them up.

However there is now a final solution to not having anything to read, and its name is iphone

ScottishMummy · 13/02/2009 21:57

i usually have a few books on the go and ipod in my voluminous bag.don't read anything i know i don't like -life is too short to pollute mind with shite

Pruners · 13/02/2009 21:58

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captainpeacock · 13/02/2009 21:58

I read the mail, don't necessarily agree with it's politics, but has some intersting articles. Have never understood why MN posters are so against it.

AitchTwoOh · 13/02/2009 21:59

lol at shampoo bottles, muffle, i'm the same. if it's printed, i want to read it.

now, ladies, go and watch Free Agents on ch4, it's very sweet.

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 13/02/2009 21:59

Yes I'll read poultry farmer weekly if it's lying around. I don't understand this idea that we must all surreptitiously love the DM and just be in some kind of denial about it, if we read it when it comes our way. Why d'you have to like something to read it? What a strange idea. Nobody would ever read Hemingway if that were the case.

muffle · 13/02/2009 22:06

My mind is a whole bucket of shite ScottishMummy! There's brain food, and there's brain crisps. I need both.

But more seriously, I do care about the levels of inequality and misogyny in the country and I am interested to see how acceptance of them is perpetrated in the press, I really am. I'm especially interested in how women embrace and disseminate (for want of a better word ) sexist values (I'm not saying I'm immune btw) and the DM is fascinating for that.

Try it! Try reading some shite, you might learn something. Try it and you may, I say!