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to wish I hadn't given son the MMR?

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hytter · 31/01/2009 22:18

I read everything, spoke to everyone, felt like I was doing the right thing, now 1 week later he has a temp of 40.3, been sleeping for 2 days, crying, unhappy, moody, cross etc etc.

I am exhusted, worried he may "regress" like I kept reading..........what have I done......

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ruty · 02/02/2009 23:06

NHS explanation this should clear it up for you Dilly

''Why are single vaccines not licensed for use in this country? Is it because no application had been made or that they have been found unsafe/inefficient.
There are extant licences for single measles and rubella vaccines in this country, but no manufacturer manufactures single measles nor rubellato this licence. Therefore licensed stocks of measles and rubella vaccine are no longer available. Single mumps has never been licensed in the UK. ''

you linked from a private clinic offering single jabs btw.

I am not against single jabs in the slightest, quite for them, but they are not licensed in the UK.

MustHaveaVeryShortMemory · 03/02/2009 18:37

You can have tetanus with polio, don't have to have the whole dtp. I mean if you pay for it, I've no idea if you can have this on the NHS.

ruty · 03/02/2009 18:51

no you can't have it on the NHS.

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hytter · 03/02/2009 19:03

Hi I started this thread after my little poor had his MMR and has been so poorly. It is now over 2 weeks on and he is still very clingy, off his food and wingy. He is teething but has been really unwell last week as I said, 104 temp etc.

I know vaccination brings about much discussion but I am very worried and would like to hear from mums who understand, perhaps can reassure me this happens and my DS will be ok?

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ChiefMangosuthuButhelezi · 03/02/2009 19:04

hytter, have you been back to the docs or called nhs direct?

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 03/02/2009 19:08

Haven't read every post, but DS was ill on and off for 6 weeks after the MMR - as he got small versions of measles and then mumps. I still don't regret him having it for a second. The real doses are horrendous (having had both measles and mumps as a child). My friend decided not to give her DD the MMR and her little 18 month old has rubella at the moment. It's awful.

We had an outbreak of measles at school recently as the current batch of Yr7s and 8s were 1 around the time that the MMR scares were happening. All the pregnant staff, including me (and we have a fair few - must be something in the water!) had to have blood tests and weren't allowed to teach them or their tutor group (even though it's rubella that is more scary when you are pregnant). The poor kids were off for over a fortnight and one was in hospital due to uncontrollable temperature spikes.

It's horrible the decisions you have to make as a parent. You've just got to do the best with the info you've got.

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hytter · 03/02/2009 19:09

I called NHS direct and they said it may be viral but most likely a reaction to say the MMR is working? Calpol and keep an eye.

The nurse at the surgery said not to worry.

I'm just not sure? What could it bed. They always say everything is viral and the mmr is safe, so I feel like i'm wasting their time to go back again.

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hytter · 03/02/2009 19:13

Really 6 weeks Ineedmorechocolatenow? Was your DC the same, clingy, wingy, off food. Are they fine now?

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 03/02/2009 19:14

As I said, DS was ill for about 6 weeks after the MMR as each different part kicked in. He was fine afterwards. It is horrible when they're so poorly and you know it's a choice you've made that's caused it. Just be sure that it means he will hopefully avoid the much nastier versions when he's older. Please don't worry too much. Treat with Calpol and Nurofen if need be and lots of cuddles with plenty to drink.

Hope he starts to feel better soon x

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 03/02/2009 19:16

Sorry, x-post. Yup, though he'd have good and bad days within that period. Clingy and wingy and off food sounds very similar. He also had mini versions of the rash and swollen glands when the mini mumps kicked in. Temp was a bit all over the place though. He wasn't horrendously ill though - just grizzly.

ChiefMangosuthuButhelezi · 03/02/2009 19:17

I would say that if you aren't happy with what the nurse said, to give nhs direct another call and insist on someone seeing him.
Is his temperature still very high? Could he have an ear infection? there are so many bugs going round at the moment, it's difficult to know what may be causing it.
Don't be worried about calling them again. Go with your instincts.

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hytter · 03/02/2009 19:22

An ear infection did pass my mind but my gp told me last time they don't give anything anymore? I feel a bit confused about when you can see a doctor as mine always says 99.9% of baby bugs are viral, treat with calpol and love. I think thats her way of telling me to not return to her anytime soon.

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ChiefMangosuthuButhelezi · 03/02/2009 19:34

When ds1 had an ear infection they gave him antibiotics, and I don't know why your gp said that because ear infections are really awful.
That's terrible that the nurse made you feel like that and it sounds like you haven't been treated that sympathetically by your surgery.
Could you ask to see a different doctor or change surgeries?
Really though, if you are worried now and you think he is in pain then insist someone sees him tonight.

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hytter · 03/02/2009 19:38

Thank-you he is sleeping soundly now but will make an appointment first thing.

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LightShinesInTheDarkness · 03/02/2009 19:55

FWIW, I opted not to vaccinate my DCs.

A decision I now regret as measles is on the increase and we face the prospect of having to catch up. I think we made the wrong choice not to vaccinate, and wish we had got it over with when they were babies.

lalalonglegs · 03/02/2009 20:09

LightShines - can you not have it done now? I don't believe there is any upper limit to vaccination, the reason it is done when children is young is that it will hopefully give them protection from these illnesses for a greater proportion of their life. I don't think that if you do not innoculate at, say, 15 months, you have missed the boat.

ruty · 03/02/2009 20:10

just do it now!

Sidge · 03/02/2009 20:14

Lightshines - if you want them to, your children can start their primary course of vacinations at any age. It's never too late to vaccinate if you want to - I have given people in their 60s their primary course of dip, tet and polio.

LightShinesInTheDarkness · 03/02/2009 20:21

Thanks - I know we need to do it, it just seems much harder to do it now when DCs are rational, talking human beings who will argue with me about having needles stuck into their bums, than little babies whom I could just tell myself needed to have the decision made for them.

I was just trying to reassure the OP that the other decision i.e not vaccinating, may not have been any less stressful!

Sidge · 03/02/2009 20:24

If it's any consolation the vaccines would be in their arms, not their bums

How old are they? It is harder when they are older but they tend to be quite responsive to bribery!

LightShinesInTheDarkness · 03/02/2009 20:31

Sidge DD (10), DS (7)

Sidge · 03/02/2009 20:44

If you do decide to get them vaccinated, at that age they might surprise you! Old enough to reason with (and bribe with chocolate!)

ruty · 03/02/2009 20:47

btw measles is a potentially worse disease when one hits puberty, so probably a good time to do it.

Beachcomber · 03/02/2009 21:01

Hytter if I were in your position I would supplement my child with vitamin A and C. I would go to see a homeopath. I would also try to give as little paracetamol as possible if any. If your child is having a bit of a reaction the paracetamol can worsen the effects and interfere with the body's detoxifying process by depleting glutathione which is required for this. (I say the above as a parent whose child reacted badly to a vaccine).

I hope things improve very soon and you can stop worrying.

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hytter · 03/02/2009 21:07

Thank-you Beachcomber but he seems to be in pain so I have given him Nurofen. I have started to give him multivitamins and omegas.

He seems to go from virus to virus, cough to cold etc and any vaccine just sends him over the edge. He is so happy normally, just feels like we haven't had a normal day in weeks.....

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