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to think that teachers are allowed to actually have a life

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stillenacht · 17/12/2008 20:49

Another post is getting on my nerves a bit - i hate the fact that because of our jobs (vocation whatever...) we have to be society's keepers and society's bitch. It truly pisses me off.

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twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 20/12/2008 15:52

I am not particularly interested in social standing tbh so maybe I am looking for something different. I do notice that I tend to get much more respect and admiration than my dp who works in the private sector.

I am not treated with the reverance that my sister who is a nurse gets, but she is also a prettier much nicer person than me so that may reflect those things as well.

I sometimes get pity as teacher,, as in poor you and that pisses me off. I dont need pity I do a job I love, with people I like, get paid well and have great holidays. If I thought the job was so bad I needed pity I would get another job tbh.

findtheriver · 20/12/2008 15:53

I would echo that twinset!
MN does seem to generate more bitchiness and rudeness than real life does! I think there's a lot of jealousy about.

I often think that saying ' The devil makes mischief for idle hands...' is quite apt here!!

findtheriver · 20/12/2008 15:55

Whoops cross posted with your last post twinset. I was echoing the previous one, not that your sister is prettier and nicer than you!
I've seen you're profile and think you look and sound lovely!!

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 20/12/2008 15:56

I think you may get back the feelings you have about your job.

I love my job, that radiates from me, my face lights up when I talk about my day and I never have a morning when I think I do not want to go in. I know how lucky I am and people pick that up.

In a previous post when I did not feel that way people would pick up on my negative feelings and I tended to get the poor you approach.

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 20/12/2008 15:58

She is what people would say is nicer, she lacks my harshness and is quite soft. I dont think that is a negativity about me tbh just a difference. I have had to become tough because of life circumstances, she is lucky not to have had to. She is prettier than me but I am cleverer, have the family she craves and more money. We win in some and lose in others.

stillenacht · 20/12/2008 18:16

I love my job twinset - i am sooo lucky to teach at a school where the kids want to learn and where the parents are supportive..i know its not the case everywhere. My DH has experienced some horrendous abuse as have his female colleagues in a previous school. I have experienced pornography being left on my desk with notes suggesting what teenage boys want to do to me - also have experienced having chairs thrown at me, a door slammed on me when heavily pregnant, being spat at and sworn at (hourly occurrence) so even tho i am in a lovely school now i know and remember well what my experience was.

I don't think you get back feelings you have about your job because for years i tried to be the bext teacher i could in this situation and money and lack of support meant that i couldn't continue in those schools.

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edam · 20/12/2008 18:20

stillenacht, they broadened the group of people who can sign passports a few years ago. I was astonished to discover that I can! I'm a mere hack - we don't have any formal register, don't have to have any qualifications at all. How the hell did we end up on the 'respectable' list?

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 20/12/2008 18:26

Have until recently worked in a school just like that so do understand. Infact I carved my career in such schools, I lost a baby after being punched in the stomach by apupil and have been attacked while at work on more than one occasion. You can try to be the best teacher you can in such a situation but you do become so destroyed that you cannot help but communicate , even if non verbally , the fact that the job is leading you to eventual self destruction. This will then lead to pity and the poor you attitude.

My job played a crucial factor in my breakdown last year and meant that my dd had to spend christmas away from me while I was in hospital. I made a decision there and then to not let that happen again and started to look for a new job.

I am now in a school where I do not have to be a rottweiller to survive and I am not trying to endlessly pick up the pieces of bad parenting, putting my own dd at risk in the process.

The difference in me now is amazing.

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 20/12/2008 18:28

I think stille having read your post again that you misunderstood me. I did not mean that you were not trying as a teacher or that you were not dedicated. But when you are teaching in tough coditions that are grinding you down this shows when you talk to other people about your job so you do get the poor you statements or similar.

OhLITTLEFISHofBethlehem · 21/12/2008 10:45

That's interesting TSAP - I'm now in the toughest school I've ever worked in, and yet, I'm probably happier there than I've been anywhere else. The children's behaviour is extreme, standards are very low due to low starting points, lack of parental support and disruption in the classroomn, funding is non-existant etc. etc. etc. In spite of all this, I love it. I love the buzz, the fear, the uncertainty and the supportiveness of the staff. I never thought I would because I'm a person that has always craved certainty, routine, safety etc. Maybe I've finally found a way to let go.

I just think that at different stages in your life, you are ready for different things.

I'm so glad you've found somewhere that fulfils you after the terrible time you had at your last place

stillenacht · 21/12/2008 17:24

I don't know how you do it OhLITTLEFISH - I couldn't anymore. I dont want to be spat at and sworn at any more. Am glad you enjoy it because i couldn't do that job in a million years now.

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stillenacht · 21/12/2008 17:25

Ah have just read your post again OhLITTLE and seen you have writtine - supportiveness of staff - THAT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!

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Littlefish · 21/12/2008 18:29

It's all a bit of a novelty at the moment stillenacht - I've just finished my first term, so let's see how I feel at the end of the year!

I think there are definitely different schools for different stages of your life. I had spent 2.5 years in a setting (not school based) in which I felt totally unappreciated, and felt like I would never make a difference. My current school is the complete opposite, so I guess that's one of the reasons I'm so excited by it.

The staff are fabulous. Hardworking, funny, irreverant, committed, passionate and profane!

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 21/12/2008 18:40

Littlefish it was the staff that lead to me going not the kids, rather than pulling togther in difficult times they all turned on each other and it became unbearable. I loved the school for about 2 years but as soon as the staff went strange I had had enough.

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 21/12/2008 18:40

Littlefish it was the staff that lead to me going not the kids, rather than pulling togther in difficult times they all turned on each other and it became unbearable. I loved the school for about 2 years but as soon as the staff went strange I had had enough.

Judy1234 · 21/12/2008 18:53

They are allowed to have a life but they must never split an infinitive in a thread title or the wrath of God will come upon them.

twinsetiscrapatflouncing · 21/12/2008 19:03

lol Xenia, I thought you were going to say we would have a life if we had made better career choices.

Littlefish · 21/12/2008 22:06

That's really sad TSAP. You obviously made the right decision though. I hope your Christmas this year in some way begins to make up for last year.

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