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I have reported neighbours to Social Services. I feel weird

98 replies

changingid · 13/12/2008 09:30

I rang SS this morning to report my concerns about a local family. I know they are struggling but they won't accept help when it is offerred and they are isolating themselves. there are 4 children under 7, the mother leaves the younger 2 alone and I wasn't comfortable with that.

I feel terrible now. Catch 22 really, Damned if you do and damned if you don't IYKWIM. I feel a coward for not asking the family directly if they need a hand.

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Eve34 · 13/12/2008 09:33

Of course you have done the right thing, if smething happened to the children you would be beside yourself. SS will help, they will not take children away unless they are at real risk of harm or severe neglect. I hope they can support them to get back on the straight and narrow.

VinegarTitsTheSeasonToBeJolly · 13/12/2008 09:36

Not much infomation in your op for me to go on

What help has been offered that she has turned down?

How long does she leave these children alone for? are you sure they are alone? could there not a relative/friend looking after them that you dont know about?

HassledElf · 13/12/2008 09:36

You've done the right thing.

LynetteScavo · 13/12/2008 09:37

SS are there to help families like this - it's what they're for. You've more than done the right thing.

VirginBoffinMum · 13/12/2008 09:39

I would have grasped the mettle and chatted to them myself first, but it sounds like you are genuinely worried so it's highly likely you did the right thing. There is a lot of help out there for people if they need it.

BlueBumedFly · 13/12/2008 09:40

You have done the right thing, I would have struggled to speak to the mother directly as well through fear of isolating her further. By the sounds of things if you had spoken to the mother she would have probably refused help and you would have had to go to the SS anyway. At least you tried to help, have any other neighbours? Don't spose so.

If the little ones had gotten hurt, or burned the house down or something like that it would have been with you for the rest of your life.

Try not to worry about your actions, your worries are well founded and I hope that they can now get the help that they need.

piscesmoon · 13/12/2008 09:42

You would feel a lot worse if something dreadful happened and you had done nothing.

littleboyblue · 13/12/2008 09:45

Agree that you would feel alot worse if something actually happened to the lo's.

thenewme · 13/12/2008 09:47

You have done the right thing but I wouldn't leave it there. I would chase them up. I have no real faith in SS and wouldn't assume they are always going to do what they should - for whatever reason.

AndaGrouchyBahHumbugtoyou · 13/12/2008 09:51

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ilovemydog · 13/12/2008 09:55

I think that most people can't/won't ask for help, so probably good that you did. ime, most social workers are genuinely kind people who want to help. Fact is, this family may need practical help which a social worker would be better equipped to do as he/she has the recources - or at least can point them in the right direction.

Plus, the family shouldn't know who reported them....

leoleomakingalist · 13/12/2008 09:56

In light of recent events you have done the right thing imo

VinegarTitsTheSeasonToBeJolly · 13/12/2008 09:57

How sad, those poor kiddies, hopefully she will get the help she needs, like others have said, you would feel a lot worse if something bad happened to them and you did nothing

MincePirateCat · 13/12/2008 09:59

if you have taken this long to report them, it must have been for good reason in your mind. You have taken time, if you see what i mean, to not just jump in there, but to make your decision based on a long course of events.

AndaGrouchyBahHumbugtoyou · 13/12/2008 11:20

Well, it's done now and hopefully they will get and accept the offers of help that they need.

The kids are loved etc etc, the family just needs assistance

flaminhell · 13/12/2008 11:30

You did the right thing, you will make a positive difference to these childrens future. Dont worry, some people have to get to the very lowest point before they accept help.

Well done for being there for the kids.

changingid · 13/12/2008 14:16

Thanks for the positive responses. I know I've done the right thin. If someone came to me with the same concerns, I'd advise them to contact SS, but it isn't that easy when you do it yourself IYKWIM.

I told DH what I'd done and his reaction was 'what have you done that for?' and 'There's no proof' 'You'll be causing problems' Cheers DH

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clam · 13/12/2008 14:29

Well, if there are no problems, then SS will find that out and no harm done.

tootyflooty · 13/12/2008 15:05

Absolutley the right thing to do, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. If all is well no harm done, if they need help hopefully they will get it.

Coldtits · 13/12/2008 15:20

A couple of years ago, I had two little boys visiting me. I had a preschooler and a baby, and no real experience of older boys, so when the little one (5) said he'd had no dinner last night, and the older one (8) would shout that he was a liar and that they had had pizza and chips and beans and he must have forgotten, I put it down to little kids being kids - and truth be told, my 5 year old has forgotten what he had for tea last night.

ANd when they looked dirty all the time, I figured that little boys often are dirty, doing dirty things.

And when they used to turn up in the rain with no coats, I figured that you can't always control what kids wear.

And when they ate me out of house and frigging home, anything they could get their hands on, I figured they were growing, active little lads, who were always playing out, and enjoyed the novelty of someone else's fridge.

ANd so, it came as a surprise when I bumped into them at 1pm one day and they asked (both of them, for once) if they could come for breakfast. SO I rang their mother, and she said they were supposed to have had cereal before they left the house, and thaat they knew they weren't allowed to go out without breakfast

So I challenged the youngest, on his own. And he said there wasn't any food, and there were no clean bowls anyway.

SO I went round, and I took the boys with me. And on the side was a box of crunchy nut cornflakes, unopened, and two bowls .... but the bowls were warm, like they had just been washed, and there was no other food in the house, in the fridge, in the cupboards. And their mother was next door.

ANd STILL I didn't fucking twig. She said she hadn't realised she had run out of cereal, and was buying some stuff from the (very close) Tesco in a minute, for their lunch, and that they should have woken her to tell her there was nothing to eat.

I let those boys down that summer. I shouold have called the sociaal services, but she was a friend, and the older child was so often callin g the younger one a liar that I thought it must be fine at home and the little one was just after my biscuit tin. I took 2 and 2 and 2 and 2 and never did put them together.

In the end, someone did call the social, aand they did get involved, and she has pulled her act together .... because we live on a tight knit council estate, and we are watching her.

I could have improved their liv es, and I was too ignorant, dithery and lost in my own issues to do so. I won't ever forgive myself for that, so be glad you rang them when you did.

thenewme · 13/12/2008 15:28

Oh I really think you can't blame yourself. You must have felt she was telling the truth at the time.

Coldtits · 13/12/2008 15:31

I did, but I felt niggled at the time. Niggled enough to go round there and check, and niggled enough to watch how much the boys were eating at mine and ask other people if it was normal.

What I didn't know is that when they weren't eating at mine, they were eating somewhere else, so did she ever feed them?

It is my fault, I should have known. I really should.

changingid · 13/12/2008 15:32

Big hugs to Coldtits if you do that stuff. It's really difficult to make that step. Thank you for sharing that experience.

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thenewme · 13/12/2008 15:35

It isn't your fault.

How could you have known, how on earth would you think someone isn't being looked after if you have never seen the signs before?

onager · 13/12/2008 15:39

changingid, given the timing I expect you will have made sure this xmas is a special one for your neighbour.

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