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to object to fiance going to a strip club for his stag do

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EyeballsintheSky · 12/11/2008 08:06

Firstly, I am writing this on behalf of a non MNetter friend who has heard about your wisdom. My DH will testify I have no need for a fiance at the moment!

Right, friend (let's call her Marge) has been with this guy (let's call him Percy) for over a year, they think the sun shines out of each other, totally loved up etc. So they are talking about getting married and he pipes up that for his stag do, he and a group of friends want to go to Las Vegas to the strip clubs.

Marge has a real problem with this, to the point of it making or breaking the relationship. I know not why but she finds the whole thought of it totally disgusting. She has absolutely no problem with Percy going off to L.V and getting pissed blah blah it's just the idea of the strip club.

Percy knows how she feels, as he confessed in the early days that he had been there before he met her and she nearly left him then but she managed to put it in the past.

He thinks it's is his last splurge before settling down and there is no harm in it. She thinks that he is wrong for gong ahead and doing something which would upset her so much that there may not be a need for a stag do. It's the only fly in otherwise perfect ointment and she knows that he will be devastated if she ends it but she thinks he won't budge over this. I personally think he will budge if it comes down to it but, what she wants to know is if she is being unreasonable by demanding asking him not to do this.

Wise MNetters, over to you.

(Going out now for a bit but will return )

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dittany · 12/11/2008 17:44

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suey2 · 12/11/2008 17:48

my DH went to vegas for his stag.
I would ask the OP: have you ever been to vegas? It isn't just about lap dancing clubs. There are fantastic restaurants, casinos, nightclubs, theatres and the whole city is basically given over to pleasure. 24/7. I had a fabulous time when i went and i can totally understand that it would be the perfect place to go for a stag.
It doesn't mean that her DP is going to shag someone, but he may have a pair of breasts or two shoved in his face one night.

It sounds like the op's friend doesn't trust her fiance, which is far more worrying than anything else IMO.

dittany · 12/11/2008 17:48

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colacubes · 12/11/2008 17:56

Dittany I have to say as wonderful as it would be to get in to a debate about prostitution with you, I cant as i have to do tea,(honestly I am not having you on I like a decent debate) but I know the stats you refer to and they also show that females visiting prostitutes has risen also. I dont know where you stand on that?

As for my position on the rights and wrongs of the sex industry i think what you are missing is that I have NOT commented either way, I merely commented on your instance that a man that visits a lap dancing bar in Vegas is going to cheat.

colacubes · 12/11/2008 17:57

Dittany, chilly has every right to comment at any point on a thread, you can not claim it as your own.

EyeballsintheSky · 12/11/2008 17:58

Hi. Wow, I see this took off in my absence!

I am still here, thanks for replies. Just sorting out DD and tea and (hopefully) bedtime so will be back later to read thread.

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dittany · 12/11/2008 18:01

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colacubes · 12/11/2008 18:06

Oh Dittany I cant move away from the lap top now, so quickly, I commented on what you said yes, thats the point of the threads to debate, as for disagreeing yes of course I disagree as said already, but chilly has a right to pass comment on you or the op, so sorry but you are wrong (imo). I add a smiley as a real smiley

rbrand · 12/11/2008 18:07

I went to Stringfellows with DH and friends a few years ago. My DH was really rude telling the stripper not to come over when he's eating, told her she's putting him off his dinner and offered her a tip if she would go away..

dittany · 12/11/2008 18:25

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scaredoflove · 12/11/2008 18:31

I think that if they are that different in their opinions then everything isn't perfect and they shouldn't be getting married

She sounds like she has issues over similar things that need addressing and I think something else would crop up even if he didn't go to Vegas

I wouldn't have a problem with a man I was with going to strip clubs, you either trust your man or you don't. If he was going to cheat, he could meet someone in tesco

I would hate a man telling me I couldn't go somewhere, no matter what it entailed. I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice tbh.

I have many male friends and I know some have been to strip clubs but no one I know has been to a prostitute, I don't think it is that rife

BitOfFun · 12/11/2008 18:31

I think a good way to sum up, without getting into the debate about the skin trade, is:

Marge quite possibly doesn't trust Percy;

Percy doesn't care about Marge's feelings =

They shouldn't be discussing the stag do, but the marriage ...

tiredsville · 12/11/2008 18:33

I also, went to see the Chippendales when I was younger. Unfortunately didn't get a chance to shag any of them, mum was with me.

scaredoflove · 12/11/2008 18:39

tireds - hehe

They were mighty fine men

pamelat · 12/11/2008 18:54

I thought the OP (on behalf of friend) said they were going to Vegas and to visit strip clubs. No one is assuming that that is why people go to Vegas. I went to Vegas and never even walked by a strip club!!

I dont think its about trust. I would trust my DH not to do anything but I would not want him to be the type (yes scummy) of person who would go there.

I think that older blokes (40+) behave worse than younger ones. DH tells me too much about stag dos and its always the older ones that end up doing things like this (in his friendship circle). He is 38 so maybe I have 2 years of non scummy left ..?!

colacubes · 12/11/2008 19:02

Dittany, you will have to explain this comment to me please "Ah Cola I never said that Chilly couldn't pass comment, please don't twist what I said, it makes it horrible to be addressed by you "

"it makes it horrible to be addressed by you." Is what is confusing me?

If it was meant as insult, it was taken as one, although confusing as it, still insulting, if not please feel free to tell me otherwise.

tiredsville · 12/11/2008 19:06

I would hardly call a group of young guys going to a strip club for a laugh- SCUM! A bit extreme, no?

pamelat · 12/11/2008 19:13

I am using the word scum, following on from someone else on this thread but I would consider a group of people (men or women) who enjoy spending their time EXPLOITING other people scum, yes.

tiredsville · 12/11/2008 19:37

So I was exploiting the Chippendales was I? Put me on the sex offenders register why don't you!

tiredsville · 12/11/2008 19:37

So I was exploiting the Chippendales was I? Put me on the sex offenders register why don't you!

ohIdoliketobebesidethe · 12/11/2008 20:23

My dh has been to several lap dancing clubs all on other people's stags. The latest was in Newquay. One guy paid £400 for touching rights. The girls had no say in whether or not they wanted to be involved in the touching. He even managed to persuade 2 others to return the next night and repeat even though the others were off doing more fun stuff with the groom. So yes exploitation is more than likely.

noboobshereplease · 12/11/2008 20:48

i have similar issues, all my friends have no problems with strip clubs, I hvae always thought my opinions went against the norm but i can't stand the thought of DH in a strip club;

Firstly, is it a strip club or a lap dancing club? well quite frankly its not usually specified and i can't stand the thought of either but particularly lap dancing because i just can't get my head around why people think its ok for a naked woman to writh around on your partners lap, i mean he can't touch with his hands in theory but shes there in his lap for gods sake!

my DH knew my feelings on the subject and on his stag i didnt ask but presumed that he hadn;t gone to one until his friend let it slip that they had gone to a strip club - well i didn't talk to him for a couple of days and he thought i was going to cancel the wedding, it was more the fact that he knew the way i felt about them but he still went (also a good friend of mine didn't go as his wife doesnt like them so that made it look even worse for my DH) anyway i got over it.

Secondly, I trust my DH more than i would trust myself on a night out if i'm being perfetly honest its not that, i just don't like him enjoying looking at other women, writhing, naked or thrusting.

I wish i didn't feel like that but thats the way i feel and if people say i've got "issues" then yes i would agree but it doesn't change the way i / your friend feels.

So, in a way i think she is being unreasonable even though i would do the same but her fiance should respect her feelings, as if its not that big a deal as a lot of people are saying then surely its just easy not to go.

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 13/11/2008 06:59

'I just don't like him enjoying looking at other women, writhing, naked or thrusting'.

I couldn't agree more, noboobshereplease! I feel exactly the same. My DH respected my wishes on his own stag, but warned me that it may not be so easy at other guy's stags,(as I posted earlier).

It probably makes me prudish or seem that I have 'issues', but I'm sure he wouldn't like me having a naked man thrusting himself into my lap either.....!!!

Bubbaluv · 13/11/2008 09:07

I still want to know why so many women feel these things are ok in a strip club when you would be horrified by them in another situation. If Dh was at the beach and there was a topless woman and he paid her to come over and wiggle her bobbs in his face I'd be appauled, but somehow people think it's OK in a strip club. Why?

ohIdoliketobebesidethe · 13/11/2008 09:12

Noone would have called you prudes 10 years ago. That would have been considered a normal reaction of any woman. In fact from my social circle there were very few men who would admit to wanting to go to a strip club 10 years ago - and I think most of them were being sincere about not wanting to.