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To think that being a single SAHM on benefits is not a 'lifestyle choice' but .........

361 replies

Littleredshoe · 05/11/2008 14:57

basically scrounging ?

Surely being lucky enough to SAH with your children comes IF you can afford it? Either because you work part time, or have a partner who provides for you to do this.....

To just 'decide' that you 'prefer' not to work and live off benefits (when you are fit to work) is ridiculous and it makes me bl**dy angry that I pay tax to enable others to sit on their arses......

maybe I am ? But ......I bet there would be a lot less feckless teenage mothers if the 'right' to benefits and SAH was withdrawn.....

OP posts:
SpandexIsMyEnemy · 05/11/2008 16:36

kew I can't believe your serious??

maybe they should be means tested yes, but nan has her pension each week of 90.00 - she's got hepititus, she wouldnt afford her meds if she had to pay. (not sure if she qualifys for an exemption certificate)

Kewcumber · 05/11/2008 16:36
Grin
Kewcumber · 05/11/2008 16:37

my own pensioner Ma is a diabetic in remission from cancer, having to pay for her prescriptions would have bankrupted us over the last 4 years!

Kewcumber · 05/11/2008 16:39

always the risk of sarcasm on the internet - but a would have spoiled the effect I felt.

SpandexIsMyEnemy · 05/11/2008 16:41

ooh u had me worried then - i shouldn't be so literal, but an example of where it's wrong along the lines - a lot of my nans friends claim this disability/invalids thing/money, She's apparently not entitled to anything as she's not bad enough - yet the poor lady can hardly walk, uses a stick n struggles with the bath & doing things, but as she's so independent (ie likes to cook her own meals, & potter around the house - even thou it wear her out) she's not entitled - how's that fair, when some of her friends have 3/4 holidays abroad each year and do get it??

system needs an overhall??

memoo · 05/11/2008 16:41

Don't even dignify the OP with an answer.

She is clearly a troll

This is her first post, inflammatory title.

If you must say anything please just tell her to Fuck off back to whichever stone she crawled out from under

KatieScarlett2833 · 05/11/2008 16:43

Tell your nan to reapply for DLA/AA and get your local rights office to fill the form in for her.

Kewcumber · 05/11/2008 16:44

my mum got incapacity benefit when she was having chemo and considered to be "terminal". When she was deemed in remission a couple of years later and genuinely didn;t need the extra money she had a hell of a job stopping it. She was contacted several times to be asked if she was really really sure she didn't want it anymore

SpandexIsMyEnemy · 05/11/2008 16:44

we're trying again scarlet for her -- this time with the dr's help - bless him, he's been really good this time around.

KatieScarlett2833 · 05/11/2008 16:47

Spandex,

Good. I always advise DLA claimants NOT to fill the form in themselves, they are a frickin nightmare.

Kewcumber · 05/11/2008 16:48

GP was key to getting my mums incapacity benefit

SpandexIsMyEnemy · 05/11/2008 16:48

can you tell me assuming she does get the extra - (think she's trying for the carer's one) will it go to her or her partner - they ahve this thing of everything being split down the middle anyhow but they do it literally to the last penny. (as I say independant lil! lol)

KatieScarlett2833 · 05/11/2008 16:51

It will go to her unless she is unable to manage her own affairs. If her partner is to claim Carers Allowance (assuming DLA is awarded)he will get that.

ssd · 05/11/2008 16:53

don't know why the op is getting told to fuck off, my neighbour claims every benefit going and her and her partner sit around the house all day, they could work but choose not to

IllegallyBrunette · 05/11/2008 16:55

The op was on about single mums in partic ssd.

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 05/11/2008 16:58

I'm not even going to dignify the OP Daily Mail rant with a response...

cory · 05/11/2008 17:04

Littleredshoe on Wed 05-Nov-08 14:57:39

Interesting to think that if dh walks out on me tomorrow/has a fatal accident I will suddenly turn into a feckless individual who should have thought about this before I put myself in this position.

Single Mums are single mums for all sorts of reasons. It is not about their morality but about the needs of a child.

Liffey · 05/11/2008 17:09

What?

So the ONLY thing you value is money, is that it?

Nothing is more valuable than pure earnings.

Tehre's no such thing as a family, being a team, pulling together for their collective good.

You're extremely odd.

KatieScarlett2833 · 05/11/2008 17:10

Very true Cory. I had a lady today who had to give up her job and take her DC's into a refuge as her DH came to her workplace, kicking off. A week ago she was married, earning and in her own home. This week, she has nothing. So, so, sad.

Liffey · 05/11/2008 17:10

Anyway, I'm a single mother on benefits and I've sat down with calculator and tried to work out if i can earn more than childcare costs.

I can't. You are extremely thick as well.

lilysmummy2007 · 05/11/2008 17:14

if your kids are school age then no reason not to go to work and with tax credits and help to pay for childcare, it should be easier. but some pople just cant be arsed, or are too lazy and prefer to sit indoors and do nothing and get paid for it, not just single mother ho do have a hard time with part time jobs etc, but gron men and teenagers out of school. thats the state of society and some people genuinely need to get that assistance. not worth being angry over it. my dp works full time and ive worked since i was 19 but now sahm and the only thing we get is tax credits and childbenefit even though i could cliam income support etc.

Liffey · 05/11/2008 17:20

it's all so easy in theory. My son has xn and will need to go to a school in the opposite direction of my elder child's school.

PLUS... more to the point, I will never be a high earner because I have no qualifications and no experience in anything relevant.

I don't try and work out what's best for other people's lives.

NObody has really run through all the possibilities and options re: my life to quite the same extents as I have, but it always amazes me, how even in RL people will say "why don't you do x, y, or z?".

People think what works for them is a one size fits all.

I think that inability to accept or understand or respect somebody else's decision shows a low emotional/social intelligence.

ra29 · 05/11/2008 17:41

An interesting take you have on parenting-'sitting on your arse all day'. Your poor children must be terribly depressed and understimulated- infact if this is how you see parenting perhaps you are depressed and in need of help. Personally I have never come across a parent who parents in this way but I have come across many who struggle do what's best for their children as single parents. It's hard- no lunch break or break at all no sick leave or sick pay, no supervisor or colleague to help when the workload is overwhelming but yes the joy of seeing your children develop and grow despite the lack of money and support. And the hope that this hard work will pay off and that you will raise children that can be a positive part of society. But perhaps chucking them in childcare whether they can handle it or not would be better and we can pay for that instead while the parent goes off and does something far more important than raise the next generation [hmmm]
Really,why are this hard working and vulnerable sector of society the group you want to villify?

jellybeans · 05/11/2008 17:48

YABVU

Single parents are already doing a full time job and working for pay should be a choice to them until their kids are alot older/grown. I don't believe many people choose to be a lone mother on benefits. The capitalist system sucks as it does not value paid work. I choose to SAH, my kids are at school (I am due to have a baby soon though) and my DH works, but why should someone whose DP cleared off not have the same choice? If I were single I would work max 16 hrs when kids are alot older. My kids are my job, simple as.

In any case, it costs just as much to support most lone parents in work than pay benefits (which are not that much anyway) so why not let them choose. 75% (I think) of lone parents of older kids work anyway so I would think the 25% have a valid (to them)reason why they don't.

angelswithdirtyfaces · 05/11/2008 17:51

I thought that most single mums would get most of their childcare paid? Am I totally off the mark? And free prescriptions, dentist, rent paid etc.

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