to think doing coke and breastfeeding are incompatible?

[MrsBates]

Well, I know I'm not being unreasonable really but what are your thoughts? Was at a party recently and two mothers who are breastfeeding were taking coke. One says she is a 'bit naughty' to be smoking spliffs in front of her children but at least she and her husband only do it in the garden. One mum did say she is breastfeeding mainly to lose weight. Nice.

I wasn't a saint back in the day but now I have children - no way - and while feeding?! Still I do have too much wine sometimes and think that is sort of OK. Where do your draw your lines (you know the kind) about recreation of the drug kind?

cocaine stimulates the central nervous system and has the same effect on a baby so it increases the heart rate causes irritablilty tremors risk of seizures and vomitting choking and breathing problems

i dont, i was saying i wouldnt drink.

last drink i had was at my mums 40th

Zippitippitoes even thru breast milk can it have the same effect???

yes it can

it is carried into breast milk and may take up to 48 hours before milk is free

I thought you meant coca cola. I was going to rant about mothers not being able to do anything!

Are you serious? If so, YANBU. WTF.

Any published info can only be helpful as otherwise people will find info on the net which cannot necessarily be trusted. I know of someone who justified coke whilst bf on the basis of a report on the net stating "anything inhaled reaches the bloodstream in almost negligible quantities compared to ingesting via other methods". If Zippi is right then clearly this statement is crap and perhaps some literature would make people think twice?

@ babies needing to detox

Why BF if you are that selfish. Give the baby a bottle.

Here is a cautionary tale:

Have you ever wondered why some teenagers who experiment with drugs appear to be able to stop or kick the habit without any problems, whilst others appear addicted upon the first smoke or snort and then are unable to kick the habit?

There was a study that looked into drug taking (narcotics specifically) during pregnancy and within the 1st year of birth.

The study followed the children into adulthood (age: 21 I think). Although the children had no significant differences during childhood compared to the control group, there was a major difference during the teenage years: individuals within both the control group and the group being studied admitted to experimenting with recreational drugs. However, whilst those within the control group found it easy to stop taking drugs at will - and all were able to do so - those from the study group could not stop taking drugs and all struggled to come off drugs. One individual was hauntingly quoted as saying, "it was as if I found a long lost friend."

The inference is clear: when a mother takes narcotics/drugs during pregnancy, there is a risk that she is condeming her own child to drug dependency later on in life.

Bloody hell - thought you meant drinking Coca Cola - was going to say probably not that good for baby - but snorting COKE!!!!

Rhubarb - "Once the effect wears off, you sleep for a full day. Not conducive to being a parent I wouldn't think."

So is being very drunk at the end of a big night and then sleeping it off for most of the following day. And having a massive hangover. None of which are conducive to parenting.

However, we are assuming here that parents arranged for kids to be cared for elsewhere while they party and then sleep. Whether they were drunk on vodka or high on coke at the club, they come home at 6 AM and slept for most of the following day.

Imho, there is no difference between drinking and taking drugs re good parenthood especially when kids are being cared for by grandparents, for example.

I agree with those who said cocaine isn't just a middle class drug although the people I am talking about would fit that demographic. I know loads of people who do it - but most stop when they have the responsibility of looking after children. I think a poster campaign would help some of these users to think again, especially while breastfeeding.

I wish the carrot of losing weight would be dropped re breast feeding, partly since most friends who were hoping for that to take effect have been disappointed ( I didn't feed for long enough to expect any impact) and also because I think it adds to the pressure to regain a slender figure (if you had one in the first place. I have met a couple of people whose prime reason for breast feeding is getting into their jeans and who express milk obsessively and chuck it. Appeals to vanity are sometimes effective - like the anti-smoking campaigns that emphasize fags giving you wrinkles, as if that would be worse than lung cancer. But think pressure to be a certain size is damaging enough without it coming into feeding a baby. Losing weight is clearly desirable after being pregnant but moving more and eating less usually does the trick. Not that I am doing it mind.

I really think that more info should be given and people start to open there eyes to how many people are actually taking drugs and stop pushing it away.

I agree with CoteDAzur as its true hungover or comedown make you feel the same way

Cote

Are you saying that is ok to take drugs and breastfeed? Or it is ok to take drugs when you have kids?

cocaine and BF can KILL the baby...

of course, there is a difference.

and the OP said the children of the parents were with them.

f*ing sad.

i got the impression mrs bates was talking about the lkind of party where there are families who bring kids along and it may start as say a bbq and then eventually the kids might stay over and sleep and the parents stay up etc

so maybe 10 or 20 people around and part of it is doing coke as well as wine spliffs etc

so i am guessing that the breastfeeding mother was not even not breastfeeding for 48 hours but the baby was actually there

and being fed

I went to a party recently. Took a couple of 'e' and spent the next 24 hours tripping as it turns out they had acid in them...

I felt like shit and thought I would never be the same again.

Not conducive to parenting, I'll agree, but I party once in a blue moon, my children were safe and sound with grandparents, and I wasn't even at home. I'm not going to do it again in a hurry but at the same time, I'm not going to beat myself up about it. I'll put it down to experience.

I don't think we should deny ourselves a bit of pleasure every now and again. Mind you coke is shit and BF is certainly not a good idea.

'Imho, there is no difference between drinking and taking drugs re good parenthood especially when kids are being cared for by grandparents, for example.'

are you saying here that as I go out every other sat night with beau, i'm a bad mother & might as well do coke as I don't have DS the next day until lunch time? bearing in mind i'm home by 12 midnight and don't have a hang over in the am/drink so much i'm on the floor.

I think if someone goes out till 4am, and then is up for lunch time and the DC's are with the grandparents, then it's no where near as bad as doing drugs - the lows for example. (althou granted my days of 4am stop out s are long since gone!)

no she meant the kids are equally safe if with grandparents whether you use drink or drugs it doesnt actually make any difference

of course this assumes that the grandparents have grown out of using drink or drugs