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To think that newbies should be allowed to start threads that may have been discussed before without backlash

109 replies

cookinmama · 09/09/2008 11:06

I am a longtime lurker on MN and have really been getting annoyed that when a thread is started that may have been discussed before there are immediately a whole load of posts saying this has been done before. Do these posters not realise that if they had seen the original they wouldn't have started the new one and want helpful comments rather than the curt - its been done before!

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ScottishMummy · 09/09/2008 11:29

dont like the phrase "newbies" cliquey and exclusionary.obvious question do you get oldies

anyone how des one know who is newbie/ole git

who cares?

all the same to me.no one is more special/funny or senior

i get images of ole gimmers drooling saying i am no newbie Harhar.T'was not like this in my day.Mn of yore

think it is snippy to do all that "Oh yawn yada yada been done dahling"

well, dont contribute then MissyKnowitall

zippitippitoes · 09/09/2008 11:29

it is usually on the slightly more novel topics so if you have told about your first date a couple of weeks ago then although the new thread might be perfectly valid it is a bit odd just to pretend you havent just had the precious one

usually people will answer but not in the numbers

until it has been a longer interval

a tyopical one is how did you get your mn name

cookinmama · 09/09/2008 11:30

mp - don't want to name threads as it is not a single poster that does it, it is just a general obsevation

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peanutbutterkid · 09/09/2008 11:31

I quite like the fact that on MN you don't see the SaME thread titles again and again and again (like you see on other Internet communities), because people here have a memory, and don't automatically post a new thread about the same old subject. I think it makes it a more invigorating and exciting site to read.

But agree nobody should feel jumped on, just nicely advised to check the archives for more advice.

MikeRotch · 09/09/2008 11:31

NO NO NO and THRICE NO

NEWBIES back in yer boxes fgs you uppity upstarts

zippitippitoes · 09/09/2008 11:31

previous not precious

zippitippitoes · 09/09/2008 11:33

i never check the archives that is just too boring

i think starting a thread it sinks or swims

just the luck of the draw

dont worry too much if someone says yawn most [people dont

zippitippitoes · 09/09/2008 11:34

actually i do if it is a book/film/tv programme/news event that would be topical

Teuch · 09/09/2008 11:35

you do know that this discussion has been 'done' before?

Teuch · 09/09/2008 11:36

sorry...link

cookinmama · 09/09/2008 11:36

was wondering when that comment might come up teuch

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DaphneMoon · 09/09/2008 11:37

I admit i did this the other day, but it had literally been discussed the day before or so. Also please do not use the word newbie, it sounds so pretentious! People who use that word are a little up their own arse if you ask me.

squeaver · 09/09/2008 11:37

I think it's fair enough that people come up against milestones problems for the first time and immediately post about them.

I also think it's fair that, when you reply, you can also say "have a search" there's been lots of threads on this. I do this on potty training/flying long-haul/what to do in London threads all the time. I actually think it's pretty helpful.

When things come up in chat e.g. the periods one could it be that someone has seen it on here, discussed it in RL and then someone else has thought "oh that's funny, I'll post about it on MN" and we all disappear up our own fundaments.

padboz · 09/09/2008 11:40

the thing about 'done before' comments is that it prevents newbies discussing something among themselves by cutting the conversation dead. This effectively makes the site moderated by old timers, which is surely not the point?. If something bores me I can click on another thread - in fact I dont bother clicking on something boring at all and wonder why on earth anyone would want to barge into a conversation that is interesting to the participants but not to them. The fact that every parent and child topic ellicits hundreds of responses sugggests that there are many people who have something to say to each other about it and bellowing BOR-ING in the background doesn't make it any more or less boring for the newbie (or otherwise) who still sees mileage in the topic. If there were no threads and it was just a free for all and the topic wondered into the mundane then it might spare blushes to point out that 'we had this discussion the other day' the way you would in a pub but the threads solves this. Crashing about saying the topic is boring when you invited yourself into that conversation is strange behaviour indeed.

mamadiva · 09/09/2008 11:40

I have seen this happening with a Madeline thread the OP got boody blasted!

I know it's obviously easy enough to search archives etc but this site can be tricky to work at first! I had severe problems trying to set up a thread LOL.

ScottishMummy · 09/09/2008 11:41

it is supposed to be spontaneous not harvard referenced,archive's searches and wholly new musings

another pippy thing is bitching about spelling and syntax.if you can read the post and get the jist then syntax did not impede that much.so ease off

Oh actually it is their not there
oh thanksafeckinbundle really enhanced my MN experience

padboz · 09/09/2008 11:43

parent and child parking space

tut.

hotcrossbunny · 09/09/2008 11:50

I agree with the OP. I can't remember how many years I've been here, and obviously some of the old subjects come round again, but occasionally someone posts with a new theory/experience and it's been worthwhile revisiting. If I'm bored I will leave the thread, I wouldn't dream of ruining it for others. Of course they could trawl through the archives, but might not find what they're looking for. Also it might be a burning issue for them and they want personal answers.

YANBU!

ParCark · 09/09/2008 11:51

Message withdrawn

ScottishMummy · 09/09/2008 11:52

mn and aibu would be very dull if people didnt dicuss the ole perennial argy bargy thread's

FormulaFeeding/BF
Nursery/CM
SAHM/working mum
state/private schools
Boden Mums
crocs

these oft repeated threads are the lifeblood of MN. many a gladitorial battle over them

Chequers · 09/09/2008 11:54

True ParCark, I started a thread the other day and 2 posters only contribution was to say it was a silly question. 70-odd other people wanted to discuss it. Why not ignore the thread if you don't like it?

FattipuffsandThinnifers · 09/09/2008 11:56

YANBU. I also fully agree with Scottishmummy and padboz. There's presumably a valid reason why someone ("newbie" - yeuch - or not) would start a thread about something, regardless of whether it's been done before - eg situation peculiar to them, want views on individual situation/problem (even if similar to other, previous posts), etc.

It's this kind of cliquey, 'old-timers' attitude which is what can intimidate new mothers from feeling part of a RL community - sad that it can apply to an online one too.

2beornot2be · 09/09/2008 11:57

Morningpaper ur right it was iCod that said it lol

I would like to point out I saw one person post on an old thread and she got jumped on for it she was a newbie I don't see her post no more.

MikeRotch · 09/09/2008 12:05

good

tbh in chat if you cant handle a bit of argy bargy you are better off a Hunsnet.com

WilfSell · 09/09/2008 12:17

Oh god, you just take your chances with a thread don't you?

Getting roasted for one reason or another is a rite de passage on MN. If someone moans 'done before' ignore em. You CAN post what you like; just because people go 'yawn' or whatever, you don't have to huff about it, ignore them too.

Chuck everything in, don't censor, stand up for yourself. Don't moan about cliques, don't take shit, give as good as you get.