To think that human excrement should not be sent to landfill

[ReallyTired]

Every disposible nappy that your child has ever used is probably in existance somewhere in landfill. What is more scary is that all these nappies will still exist after you and your grandchildren are dead.

I think that disposable nappies should be seperated from normal rubbish and recyled. I am sure that it would be possible to design a disposible nappy that was more enviromnentally friendly. Maybe a two part system with a water proof wrap and the disposible part could be made completely compostible.

The present situation stinks. I think that it would take legistation to force parents and companies to work a bit harder for the sake of our world.

There's a new move afoot to break down the components of disposables and recycle them - see here

With landfill costs rising, it's starting to make economic sense to do this at last. Unfortunately the first site is only going to deal with disposables from hospitals and insitutions like that, but it's a step in the right direction.

lol at "a mix of sea air and burning garden rubbish" expat.

"I use them and so do several of my friends."

Go to Tescos and see how much shelf space is taken up by pampers, huggies, tescos own brand and then see if you can find the eco disposible nappies. It will give a strong indication of the popularity of different brands in your area.

I met the amount of shelf space allocated to any eco disposible is tiny.

expat, i have muslin squares and terries for the early days. with a good old cheap cotton bottom wrap.

How do you know how long it will take a disposable nappy to decompose? They have only been around for about 50 years, so it is not really possible to make enormous projections.

About the biggest component of a domestic landfill is newsprint. Fancy that.

There are moves afoot though RT. ASDA now do their own brand range of eco disposables and I reckon it's only a matter of time before the other supermarkets follow suit.

Still doesn't get away from the fact that they don't degrade in landfill though.

They take ages, have so far only used 1 lot of compost from them.
We use Wiona and they are only 2/3 biodegradable, worms are meant to help them breakdown even faster.
We do flush any poo away and have been using them for 12 months so have a lot to get through! Luckily we have a very large garden mudpatch so have the composter well away from the house.

One of my friends is trying the same with Moltex but don't know how she is getting on.

Was tempted to stick them in brown bin the council give all households for garden waste.

Have to admit that I don't know how much longer I want to carry on, as it is a lot of effort for hardly any result.

i'm headed to IKEA, misdee, to pick up that bumper pack of terry cloth towels to use for the early days, as well as bumper packs of candles to use at night instead of the lights, you know us poor folk have to get on as we can .

Daisy, aye, the wash was smelling delicious, then the neighbour two doors down took to burning, and why not, best make hay whilst the sun shines around here!

but my last load smelled like a beachside BBQ.

I would buy eco nappies but they cost too much - credit crunch. Are re- usables that eco friendly after used powder, water and electric to get them clean.

oh expat i just gave 100 tealights to my MIL, i could've sent them to you

my ikea trip is in about 3 weeks time, cant wait lol.

"Unless legislation forces disposible nappy companies to be a bit more eco friendly its not going to happen"

How about:

"Unless legislation forces consumers to buy disposible nappies its not going to happen"

I can't speak for all the big brands, but I speak for one of them (although obviously I can't name them), but the biggest problem with moving towards disposable solutions is that consumers aren't prepared to pay for them. And making nappies with disposable materials that won't leak is much more expensive than using plastic/oil.

Would you pay a premiun for a disposable nappy? Good on you if you would, but the vast majority of women just aren't prepared to do this. So why should the manufacturers put themselves out of business?

Get real, ReallyTired.

Thanks LackaDAISYcal, thought it had been discredited as I vaguely remember thinking that no one washed nappies like that anymore!

i find they are, bloomin', particularly as we only need to buy a few bits and bobs this time round, as DS will be using DD2's old nappies.

if you wash them with soapnuts or bio powder with a handful of soda crystals thrown in and line dry, they don't really make for a significantly greater amount of washing.

you can also buy them used.

i buy essential oils for the pail in bulk here, this company does really quality oils fairly cheaply.

for liners i've always used Lidl microfibre cloths, about £2.50 for two, folded in half. very absorbant and the poo falls right off.

not to worry, misdee, i just need to check if JARM is able to get her supply from IKEA or if she needs me to pick some up when we go.

oh i need to buy a mtre of fleece from the market for liners. i forgot about that bit!

not sure exactly what your beef is RT. Most people, cali included (since your last retort was directed at her) are agreeing that not enough is done but that things can be done, and the products are out there if people care enough to research and find them.

And also that companies are at the heart of the matter; (the parents, in general, will only buy what is in front of their noses so they can't really be held accountable I don't think).

your comment about supermarkets is valid, but that is a lot to do with the producers of eco nappies being on such a small scale compared to the likes of huggies, pampers and the own brands that they cannot compete on a supermarket scale as the producers have to pay a premium to the supermarket for the shelf space they take up; the only ones available locally here are Nature Babies, but saying that, my local supermarket often runs out, which to me says that people are obviously buying them in my local are.

back to your composting cali, therein lies the problem; its just not really viable on a domestic scale for most people.

wonder if sandlewood would work in the diaper bucket?

I know I'll get shot down in flames but really don't think I could be bothered with reusables - way too much extra work.

i've been tempted to try patchouli, ilove, but dh hates it.

i tried lemongrass once but it was just a leetle too strong for my tastes.

sweet orange is nice, though, a welcome change from tea tree.

good tip about the microfibre cloths as liners expat....I've tried fleece, but hate all that trying to get it off the fleece and into the toilet and invariably end up pebbledashing the toilet walls with poo

too much extra work? two loads a week most weeks.

plus no wet clothes or poo explosions up the back that you get with disposables.

ReallyTired, I don't have to look in my local supermarket for eco-disposables, I buy in bulk online as it makes them more affordable.

They are expensive and we don't have a lot of money but as DD2 was allergic to a lot of well known brands of nappies, we were prepared to buy them.

why say it then bloomingfedup?

2 loads? Does the nappy buck reek then?