To think that human excrement should not be sent to landfill

[ReallyTired]

Every disposible nappy that your child has ever used is probably in existance somewhere in landfill. What is more scary is that all these nappies will still exist after you and your grandchildren are dead.

I think that disposable nappies should be seperated from normal rubbish and recyled. I am sure that it would be possible to design a disposible nappy that was more enviromnentally friendly. Maybe a two part system with a water proof wrap and the disposible part could be made completely compostible.

The present situation stinks. I think that it would take legistation to force parents and companies to work a bit harder for the sake of our world.

i know expat. but please do hand back old, out of date, no longer needed etc etc drugs to the pharmacy.

how rude to expat!!!

smart nappy

Where do you think the human waste goes once you have been to the loo?
It gets dried, collected then spread on the fields as a 'fertilizer' - complete with heavy metals, certain bacteria etc. Thousands and thousands of tons of it. It is not always heat treated either.
Certain companies keep very quiet about it but no warning signs are erected yet you cannot walk on the area for six weeks.

Yeah, missdee, I have thought that on many occasions. For example, all hospitals have incinerators for their clinical waste which gets collected from gp surgeries. What if once a week we could take our soiled nappies over to the GP surgery for collection. They could give you a bin to keep outside specifically for nappies, provided by the midwife. Tehn I wouldn't balk at the idea of twice week bin collections

doh, my pharmacy message was for others. not expat lol.

Thanks Expat!

The nappies we use get composted so don't end up in

landfill.

Plants don't seem to be mind.

The problem is that making nappies and wipes that are totally disposable means that they will be more expensive.

We have researched these for one of our clients, and whilst many mums will say that they would prefer them, hardly any are prepared to pay more for them.

So why should businesses invest the time and money that it would take?

The great irony is that the manufacturers (or at least our client) would really love to make - and be seen to make - something that is more environmentally friendly, but until they know that their consumers will actually buy it, there is no point.

I'm afraid that you can't have it both ways.

bunsen, they collect the ywllow bags here for other waste, i think maybe they should issue yellow bins to parents of babies.

or advertise their real nappy schemes better.

i hate the smell of disposables.

seriously, GO?!

thanks for the link, misdee! have been looking for something that's easier to manage than our usual TotsBots and Kissaluvs with Bamboozle at night for the newborn stage. these smart nappies might be just the ticket.

I think we should recycle the poor, surely we can take ten washed up poor people who are only a drain on the state and wrecking the environment and turn them into a nice middle class family who buy boden andx organic veg.

nop idea if they are any good expat. never tried them myself.

Yes, I blame the poor myself. If only we all wore Boden it would be alright.

trial pack's only a tenner. think i'll punt for it.

Yes expat. We have just had a massive battle with SEPA re the neighbouring farmer spreading thousands of tons on an area stretching 12 miles. The effluence ran into the river and no one wanted to know.
We were all terribly sick as the dust was everywhere. His cattle and sheep were eating the stuff too. FFS.

Was there not a study from a few years ago looking at the environmental impact of both reusable and disposable nappies?

I might be mistaken but I thought that the results showed that when you took into consideration the chemicals and energy used in the cleaning of reusables, they were shown to be only slightly better for the environment than non eco friendly disposables.

Unless legislation forces disposible nappy companies to be a bit more eco friendly its not going to happen. Eco nappies are expensive because no one buys them. If every nappy had to be compostable then the cost would come down.

It take a cup of oil to make every disposible nappy. Oil is in very short supply and silly to waste it. Surely well designed eco disposible nappies would be cheaper.

RT your wee quip to expat was mean and uncalled for who rattled your cage?

that's interesting cali. DH has done loads of research on this as he is chief environmental bod at his work, and is helping to implement the environmental policy of a big high street retailer, and from what he has learnt, even ecos disposables are only about 60% degradable and that they need to go into industrial composters, not domestic ones. The eco bit of them tends to be more about the production methids that the degradability.

Also, the majority of people do not compst them either at home or to an industrial composter so they fill up the landfill sites and sit there taking years to break down, just like normal nappies.

Which brand do you use, and how long do they take to break down?

cali, that report was seriously flawed. they base dit on people tumble drying and ironing their nappies. i mean who irons nappies? really?

ReallyTired, no one buys them do they?

I use them and so do several of my friends.

fucking hell, otter! i had NO idea!

good reviews on this Smart Nappy.

hmm.

was considering investing in a few Bumgenius for the newborn stage. might try those plus this Smart Nappy biz.

oh, you could well use the power of the wind as a dryer up here the day!

the 'klaze' and towels were blowing like sails - dry in under an hour and smelling like Argyll, a mix of sea air and folk burning their garden rubbish.

cali, that research has been widely dicreditted as it assumed that everyone gets through about 12 nappies per day, washes on a boil wash, tumble dries, and then irons them and is based on older, less energy efficient washing machines.

the realty is more like 5 or 6 nappies a day, washed at 40 degrees, line dried and never ever ironed.