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to think a parent should prioritise all of their children equally

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noonki · 04/08/2008 20:23

I just read a post in which it was argued that a father should prioritise a child they are living with over children from a previous relationship.

And that financially he should prioritise his new family over that of his old. TBH I am incensed.

I am a stepmum and would be shocked if my DH didn't view all of his children equally. In fact it would make me question him as a father.

He definitely has a different relationship with his first son but I think does with all of his kids.

I think attitudes like this can aggrevate issues such as father's (or in some rare cases mother's) not contributing finacially and emotionally to their children.

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Feenie · 05/08/2008 11:02

Actually, you said that your dp's first priority and obligation was your dd.

That's the bit that most people find sticks in their throat. It was the bit that horrified me, anyway.

NotDoingTheHousework · 05/08/2008 11:03

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hughjarssss · 05/08/2008 11:05

NDTH - Because he has to use his income to support them children as well as his own children

NotDoingTheHousework · 05/08/2008 11:06

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hughjarssss · 05/08/2008 11:07

Expat said the first obligation should be to the first child.

How come no one finds this abhorrent that the second family's children is treated less fairly???

jammi · 05/08/2008 11:09

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VictorianSqualor · 05/08/2008 11:09

Surely in the calculation of maintenance it should be household income for both parents?

NotDoingTheHousework · 05/08/2008 11:09

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newforold · 05/08/2008 11:10

In hughjarrs defense, she was saying exactly the same thing as Jammi, not worded as well perhaps but the jist of her post was the same.
In none of her posts has she stated that her partner has

  1. abandoned his first child
  2. not payed maintenence.

She did in fact state that her partner pays maintenence regularly and has not missed any payments. She stated that it was the extras that her partners ex asked for that are sometimes refused if they have other outgoings that need to take priority.

I do feel that a few of you have misunderstood her meaning and intent when she posted and have jumped on her accordingly. She has also stated that her dsd is an integral part of her family and they seem to have a lovely relationship judging by what i've read of her posts.

As regards the CSA not taking into account an NRP's partners income;
My partner and i live together. We both have a child from a previous relationship. My dd has no contact with her father and i have never received maintenence.
DP had to fight through the courts to stop his ex from going missing with dsd on a regular basis. We now have her with us every weekend, all weekend, one night during the week and 3/4 of all school holidays.

Partner and i work full time. I am the higher earner (in 40% tax band). DSD's mother has never worked, her husband has a low paid job.
Our lifestyle is far better than that of DSD's mother, but that is because both of us work hard and built our careers up over many yrs.
We buy DSD most of her clothes, pay for school trips, private healthcare etc.
However, it is not fair to expect me to pay a portion of my wage to DSD's mother as maintenence. My partner is DSD's father, the monthly maintnence is his responsibility and his alone.
I pay for dd's childcare, healthcare, school clothes, normal clothes, education, activities etc etc as that is my responsibility.

It is not my fault that DSD's mother does not wish to work and it is not for me to feel guilty that we live in a large home in a good area whilst her mother lives in a small flat in a crap area.
I made my choices, she made hers.
I do everything i can to ensure that my DSD feels that she is an equal part of the family that DP and i have, she has the same sized bedroom as dd, she is bought clothes as and when needed or wanted, the same amount is spent on both for christmas birthdays etc, both girls receive equal love affection and attention. DSD is included in all aspects of our life as she is just as important as DD.

In my opinion, as long as DSD knows that she is loved by both her mum and her dad equally, that is the most important thing that she needs.
Whether or not one family has a larger house or takes more holidays is just part of life.

Kewcumber · 05/08/2008 11:10

My parents divorced when I was an adult and I know the pain I went through when I realised that we were less important to him than his new family. I can only imagine how painful it would be as a child.

DS will never be less important to me than any other child even if (god forbid) he should ever not be resident with me. Even if I had less input into his day-to-day actions, he is my child and will always be my first priorty along with any other childrne I have.

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hughjarssss · 05/08/2008 11:10

In was inresponse to that Expat comments that my daughter should come second, that I said actually she doesn't. Her needs come first becasue she lives with us.

Read the fucking thread before throwing comments about and stop taking things out of context.

If you are too lazy to read it then I'm not going to waste time listening to your insults as they are complelty unfounded

Feenie · 05/08/2008 11:11

My sister has a stepson, and both her and her dh do not treat him equally. She also says her dh's priority is 'his girls'. The older girl isn't even his child, she's his stepdaughter.

As an aunty, I treat and love him the same as all of my nieces and nephews. My parents do the same, even though he is their step-grandson, they love him dearly.

If I hear my sister say 'our girls' one more time, I will vomit.

edam · 05/08/2008 11:11

I think Expat's point was that someone who chooses to have more children knows full well they have existing children to support. And can't just swan off thinking 'sod my eldest, I've got a new family now'.

hughjarssss · 05/08/2008 11:13

THANK YOU NEWFOROLD!

SOMEONE WITH THE INTELLIGENCE TO READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE MAKING JUDGEMENTS

jammi · 05/08/2008 11:13

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VictorianSqualor · 05/08/2008 11:13

If the father of both sets of children becomes a SAHD to his new family, then the step-mother should pay all 'bills' inlcuding maintenance which should be based on the household income.

If she don't like it she shouldn't get with a man who has children already in the first place.

hughjarssss · 05/08/2008 11:14

If you bothered to read the thread you would find out that dsd is actually a lot more loved and cared for by us than most of the step children that have been discussed on this thread

VictorianSqualor · 05/08/2008 11:14

Jammi, if you have DSD 3 nights a week surely maintenance is minimal anyway? It's practically a 50/50 share of joint custody.

jammi · 05/08/2008 11:15

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edam · 05/08/2008 11:16

I think Jammi has highlighted a key reason for conflict over money. Divorced fathers and their new partners often seem to see maintenance as being forced to pay money to the ex, or supporting the ex. It's not - it's to support the children. And that includes the cost of housing them and paying utility bills, just as it does for children who live with you.

I think resentment about maintenance is often tied up with all the negative feelings about the breakdown of the relationship.

hughjarssss · 05/08/2008 11:16

Depends if the CSA believe you when you tell them you have the child X amount of nights.

In our case they believed the PWC who was lying so our payments are higher than they should be

Feenie · 05/08/2008 11:17

I read the thread. I read you saying your dsd would always come second because she didn't live with you.

"IMO my dp'd first priority and obligation is our daughter. He is here with her full time and we make joint descions about the way we raise her."

"He is only a part time father to his dd1 and no matter how much he pays or how much he see's her, it will never be the same as it is with our dd as he doesn't live with her."

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