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Lefties and Centrists of London - would you consider voting against the current mayor in the next election?

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hotmumshit · Yesterday 18:06

Cant get a bus down Oxford Street
Crime hasn't gone anywhere, only the phone bike thieves due to international outcry
Housing still a mess

I am a lifelong leftie, but I am not voting the current mayor in again.

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Itsthepatriachy · Today 10:34

CurlewKate · Today 08:30

Can anyone help me understand why some people dislike Khan so much?

They’re worried he is going to introduce “shakira law”. Seriously that’s what I’ve heard. I even saw some stupid AI videos manipulating what he said recently.

More plainly it’s down to Islamophobia, racism, anti-immigrant and hatred of the left hysteria which leads them to hold him to a far higher standard than a posh white conservative leaning male clown like Boris Johnson.

I got really annoyed at people voting for BJ as Mayor because “ he’s a character ha-har” because I always felt it’s not a good reason to vote for him plus he was a racist and more dangerous beyond his clown persona. Many I know were not a fan. However I don’t remember an equivalent campaign of hate against him.

And yet now Khan is in there are people from Bournemouth to Aberdeen suddenly so interested in the mayor of London and frothing over the apparently collapse of London.

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 10:38

CurlewKate · Today 08:30

Can anyone help me understand why some people dislike Khan so much?

London is drowning in rubbish and looks shabbier by the hour.

No control over cyclists on pavements.

Delays and cancellations on TFL and rise of antisocial behaviour on public transport.

Crime.

Loss of green spaces and overcrowding.

These are my reasons.

Arbourimage · Today 10:39

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 10:29

I cannot possiby speak for all born n bred Londoners, but personally love change, it's what makes us tick and what gives us such a gorgeous range of opportunities in terms of events, galleries, museums, entertainment and employment. But...... when getting to any of these is made an expensive living hell, with no tangible benefits to the environment, I question why we are all being put through this for the benefit of a very few elite residential streets.

Can you actually explain how getting to work, museums or other cultural sites has genuinely become “an expensive living hell” due to LTNs?
This seems utterly hyperbolic from anything I’ve actually seen in real life.

Needmorelego · Today 10:59

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 10:38

London is drowning in rubbish and looks shabbier by the hour.

No control over cyclists on pavements.

Delays and cancellations on TFL and rise of antisocial behaviour on public transport.

Crime.

Loss of green spaces and overcrowding.

These are my reasons.

Most of that isn't the Mayor's responsibility though.
Edit : actually I checked...some of it is. But not everything you listed.

BigYellowBus · Today 11:06

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 10:38

London is drowning in rubbish and looks shabbier by the hour.

No control over cyclists on pavements.

Delays and cancellations on TFL and rise of antisocial behaviour on public transport.

Crime.

Loss of green spaces and overcrowding.

These are my reasons.

This is not my experience. I walk through Trafalgar Square every morning and I can honestly say that at 9am it is spotless. Yes there are cyclists on pavements but it's hardly a Mad Max-style post-apocalypse nightmare. In fact London is one of the greenest and least polluted cities in Europe

https://www.essentialliving.co.uk/blogs-insights/the-greenest-cities-in-europe

The Greenest Cities in Europe in 2026 | Essential Living

We've ranked the greenest cities in Europe using a range of factors and methodologies. Does your city make the top 10?

https://www.essentialliving.co.uk/blogs-insights/the-greenest-cities-in-europe

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 11:08

@Arbourimage my previous reply failed, so here goes, this is going to be long, but as you raised queries, please read:

Arbourimage · Today 09:17
There is nothing to back up your claim that independent or small business have been decimated for a start, absolutely nothing to back up your claim that he has “decimated local communities”, **

Am afraid there's plenty.....

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/uk/2020/11/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-ltns-london-car-street-cycling-walking-culture-war-pollution-gentrification

https://activetravelstudies.org/article/id/1763/

Shared concerns: unequal outcomes
A concern that emerged in the implementation of LTNs is the potential for increases in levels of motor traffic on boundary roads and a subsequent reduction in local air quality. Residents were concerned about the implications for equality. For Charlotte (P11), who had observed a reduction in symptoms of her children’s asthma that she associated with there being less traffic on the road during the initial Covid-19 lockdown in the UK: “If certain residents are going to bear the brunt of it… I think that is unfair, and they shouldn’t have to suffer.”
It is also instructive that perceptions of LTNs were influenced by perceptions of social inequality. In Levenshulme, interviewees were concerned about potential gentrification – “I love the filter, but at the same time I was like, this is more reason for our landlord to increase our rent” (Claire P13). For others, there was a perception that LTNs could improve the neighbourhood at the expense of the boundary roads – “that’s almost saying that all of us that live off it, on the other roads that come out, don’t exist or don’t matter, we’re not part of Levenshulme” (Ellie P10).
Conversely, residents of Garside Hey felt that the decision to implement an LTN there was a reflection of their inequality and relative deprivation:
I guess the perception is people who live in a private estate probably wouldn’t stand for and allow anything like that to happen, full stop, whereas somewhere like around here – I don’t want to use words that are belittling, but I guess that round here they think people have got less of a choice having stuff done. (Kevin P1, Garside Hey Road)
Interviewees mentioned that they considered the planters to be “ugly” and to indicate that social housing needed to be “penned in”. Far from gentrification, they hinted at ghettoization: “keeping the council estate out of the way of the and creating a clean sweep down Garside Hey Road to the more expensive estate” (Kevin P1, Garside Hey Road).
Similar frustrations – processes of LTN implementation
In addition to similar desires in terms of better neighbourhoods for everyone and concerns regarding inequalities – albeit with different perspectives on their resolution – there were also some shared frustrations with processes of LTN implementation amongst participants. These tended to transcend differences in their overall positions on LTNs. These frustrations are important to note as they impact resident perceptions of the capacity of local authorities to implement interventions such as LTNs. They also contribute to increasing friction between residents with differing opinions.
Frustrations with processes of monitoring and evaluation were related to perceived inadequacies in the monitoring that was carried out. Approaches such as traffic counts and air quality monitoring, for example, could enable effective evaluation by providing data on whether LTNs successfully increased levels of walking and cycling as well as whether LTNs negatively impacted boundary roads in relation to air quality and traffic levels. The absence of monitoring was particularly critical for the go-along participants that were ambivalent, who were often waiting on data to make up their minds on whether they support their local LTN. For example, Charlotte commented on the absence of data on the LTN trial in Levenshulme:
I felt a bit saddened by that, and I’m very – I’m a data person. I use a lot of data in my job, and I felt like there hadn’t been any data collection to give you the value of this is what it was before and this is what it is after, so that really concerned me. (Charlotte P11)
Another side to these concerns about monitoring stemmed from the way in which existing data was being used, and how this related to the siting of the LTN. One participant reflected that air quality monitoring had found high levels of pollution on the boundary roads and therefore they did not understand why the measures were going in on the side streets, where pollution levels were lower:
I think people are upset as well with that, the fact that a report that identified all illegal levels of pollution on boundary roads. It has been used in a bid submission where actual interventions are going in the on the side streets, which probably have the much lower pollution level. I think people are upset. I think they’re angry. I think they’re frustrated. All sorts of emotions. Betrayed. I think betrayal’s a big one. (Kevin, P1)
Frustrations with processes of communication related both to how local authorities initially communicated the plans for an LTN trial and to the ongoing processes of communication leading up to and during an LTN trial. In general, residents received flyers through their doors to inform them about an upcoming LTN trial or consultation on implementing one. For residents who were not already actively engaged in local walking and cycling campaigning, these flyers were sometimes overlooked or had not been received: “I was told there was something came through the post, or something. You get a lot of junk mail, and it goes. It got lost and you don’t really see it” (Tara, P15). In Garside Hey Road, Natalie (P2) observed a similar concern: “There was a bit at first because there were loads [of people] going, ‘What is this? We’ve not been told. You’ve not put a leaflet through.’”
There was also concern around ongoing communication, and particularly the role that councillors had in the process. Participants considered that councillors and council officers should be providing information and also spend more time promoting the scheme and working to allay concerns regarding it. This was articulated by Jane (P8): “Someone really does kind of need to champion it… And it’s the project team and the councillors who should be really working to communicate.” Participants felt this lack of clear ownership exacerbated friction between those for and against the LTNs within the community as residents, instead of councillors and council officers, stepped in to advocate for the scheme.
Whilst these concerns about effective and democratic engagement are reflected in recent LTN literature (Dudley, Banister and Schwanen, 2022; Pritchett, Bartington and Neil Thomas, 2024), the interviewees suggest that the context created by the Covid-19 lockdowns added a further layer of challenge characterised by a reliance on online communication:
There was no way to have a public meeting, there was no way to engage; it was all online. The toxic nature of that, that it is, I think that definitely made it a lot harder, and also just made it nastier – because people were already struggling with something strange, in their experiences and the anxieties round about that. Then your schemes coming in and changing, and we can’t go and speak to anyone: we can’t see the councillors at the surgeries, and we can’t go into meeting; we can’t all thrash this out and be civil about it. It just amplified it. (Natalie, P2)
Unequal experiences – places for walking
Perhaps the theme around which there were the greatest differences and inequality of experiences was infrastructure for walking. This affected those who were walking the majority of their everyday journeys. LTNs were not considered to be an improvement to walking experiences as they were not, in their current form, addressing many of the factors that impede the pedestrian experience – for example, pavement parking, poor pavement conditions, and lack of dropped kerbs and crossing points. Tara described the pavements during a go-along:
Then you’ve got the pavements that are up even, up and down, and it’s just, it is a struggle. This road round here with cars coming round, it is bad. I have to actually get the children to walk on the pavement, the ones that walk. I have to take the buggy on to the middle of the road. Sometimes you do get the children, because they have learned, “Stay with me, follow me on to the road,” and it just feels like you’d have a heart attack. (Tara, P15)
Similar discussions on the importance of pavement infrastructure were covered in the focus group discussions with older adults. While, as discussed, the idea of active neighbourhoods was considered positive by older adults, the absence in investment in pavement infrastructures was considered to detract from the ability to support older adults to actively access their local neighbourhood. For example, participants in the focus group discussions described having to stare down at the ground to prevent themselves from tripping over as they walked. As one older person expressed: “I am so sick of walking in my area looking at the pavements” (Focus Group 2). Another noted how pavement conditions contributed to her isolation: “I don’t drive, and it’s impossible for me to walk to the shops because of the state of the pavements” (Focus Group 1).
The absence of dropped kerbs was another factor inhibiting older people’s mobility: “my husband has an electric wheelchair, and he can’t manage the pavements. He can’t get on and off” (Focus Group 1). Older people in the two focus groups noted that, in addition to wheelchair users needing such kerbs, they are also necessary for people with reduced mobility as well as parents pushing prams:
What I do find is there’s not enough sloped kerbs. You get them for someone’s drive and maybe at a corner, but if you’ve got a long street area there’s no slope. They need to put a lot more sloped kerbs in, not just for wheelchairs, people with prams, people using walking sticks. (Focus Group 1)
Participants saw a need for dropped kerbs at frequent points along pavements to enable them to cross filtered roads within LTNs and therefore be able to take the most efficient walking routes to destinations: “they shouldn’t just be on corners as it’s harder to cross the road on a corner, especially if there’s no traffic lights” (Focus Group 1).
Older people considered pavement parking to further exacerbate their difficulties in walking in their local areas. Pavement parking commonly narrows available pavements, increasing difficulties in walking, particularly if older people must then navigate out into the road, an issue accentuated by a lack of dropped kerbs. Older people also attributed poor pavement conditions to vehicles parking on the pavements and expressed disappointment in their local representatives for inaction around pavement parking: “Parking on pavements? If the councillors aren’t going to do anything then democracy isn’t good anymore. Ears are deaf” (Focus Group 2).
Sources of division
LTNs as interventions for cycling
Whilst those who both cycled and walked for transport in their local neighbourhoods tended to be supportive of LTNs, those who predominantly walked were less supportive, or were ambivalent. Those who primarily walked for their local journeys and were not in favour of LTNs, tended to perceive LTNs to be a cycling intervention. For example, according to Charlotte (P11) in Levenshulme, “it seemed like it was more geared towards cycling, the whole thing. The leaflet that came through seemed like it was all geared towards that [cycling], so I didn’t really get involved.” Similarly, Terry (P17) in Trinity and Islington noted that “we [Terry and his neighbours] assumed it was all to do with cycling at first,” with Alicia (P19) identifying street changes as ways to make cycling safer: “I think the reason why they want to close Mount Street is because the crossing with the Blackfriars Road is dangerous to bikes.”
LTNs in context of transport policy
We can observe that the opinions of participants on LTNs tended to be influenced by how they perceived these developments within broader policy area of modal shift in Greater Manchester. Those who were supportive tended to see LTNs as one component of wider processes, such as further LTNs, more comprehensive cycling networks, and the forthcoming reregulation of buses (and anticipation therefore of more frequent buses, better coverage, and a London-style pricing system) in the region (GMCA, 2021). During a go-along in Levenshulme, Jeff (P9) discussed seeing LTNs as the first step in wider progress on reallocating road space and supporting walking and cycling:
Everyone’s seeking to reduce car use, and you’ve got to start somewhere. If you can get a behaviour change in the zones… It might not have a big impact on reducing the overall traffic on the boundary roads but it’s a start.
Jeff also spent time during the go-along reflecting on the wider changes that need to happen on boundary roads, such as implementing width barriers to reduce numbers of HGVs and bus gates to improve overall vehicle levels on boundary roads.
Conversely, those who were ambivalent or unsupportive tended to perceive their local LTN as more of a singular, isolated intervention, rather than placing it within a wider set of changes. These interviewees considered any inequalities produced through LTNs to be a fixed, rather than changeable, outcome. For example, Jane (P8) felt that supporters of LTNs considered the boundary roads as the space where more traffic should go: “then it almost felt like we were becoming somewhere where people could say, that’s where the traffic should be, and that’s where it should go.” This perception is very different to what Jeff (P9) is saying in the previous paragraph, as he is actively campaigning for interventions to improve boundary roads and therefore evidencing that he is making connections between the LTN and the surrounding area.
A similar perception relating to the notion that the LTN is disconnected from wider mobility and planning policy is demonstrated by Valerie (P22) in explaining her opposition: “I think the main thing is, if you want to encourage people to leave their cars behind, the one thing you’ve got to do first, is improve public transport.” Whilst Valerie perceived her local LTN to be disconnected from improvements in public transport, measures to increase levels of active travel in Greater Manchester were in fact going hand in hand with improvements in public transport (GMCA, 2021), as discussed previously. This highlights the importance of communication and emphasises the value of placing local developments in the context of other initiatives and changes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/20/birdsong-and-community-coming-round-to-low-traffic-neighbourhoods

https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/traffic-displacement-has-led-to-an-uncomfortable-division

https://shapes.place/2021/06/25/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-more-divisive-than-brexit/

Negative impacts on independent businesses:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgk3r4k8z00o

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/11/haringey-ltn-changed-business-models-overnight-sparking-high/

https://www.elbpartners.com/ulez-is-driving-businesses-out-of-london/

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/entrepreneuracademy/article-12368497/What-low-traffic-neighbourhood-hurting-business.html

there’s nothing to back up your claim that emergency response times have been reduced by LTNs either, in fact several studies by the London Fire Brigade have shown this to not be the case.

Not so:

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/article/ltn-london-low-traffic-zone-areas-street-report-sqtcn3qmd

https://www.greenwichgonetoofar.co.uk/emergency-service-delays.html
he London Ambulance Service (LAS) re-issued a blanket warning to all local authorities against 'changes to road layout, traffic management schemes and road closures' which LAS says are known to 'have the potential to impeded our response to the most critically-ill people'. Services prefer ANPR in all cases, permitting unimpeded access to ambulances, fire engines and the police. The letter, sent on 17 October 2023 reminded Greenwich that all London boroughs and TfL had been warned of the contents more than three years ago on 5 July 2020.

Earlier Freedom of Information Act (FoI) disclosures showed that emergency services were only given 48 hours in July 2020 to comment on schemes. Service at that time condemned hard closures such as bollards and planters as highly dangerous and potentially putting life at risk. The Greenwich hard closures rebounded badly on the Council. Complaints of delayed ambulances were the underlying reason for modifying the 2020 LTN, and subsequently removing it in February 2022.

This makes for worrying reading: https://www.london-fire.gov.uk/media/8688/foi-response-80021-greenwich-ltn-4.pdf

This supports the fact that emergency services were excluded from the planning process: https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2021/07/04/emergency-services-raise-problems-with-greenwich-low-traffic-neighbourhoods/

The council then ignored warniong letters and public questions in relation to this issue: https://committees.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/documents/s16336/Sept%20Public%20Questions%20Responses.pdf

And from a previous LAS chief:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/03/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-delaying-paramedics-warns-former/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/03/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-delaying-paramedics-warns-former/

I have a disabled young child, live in a LTN and have seen zero negative effect in the local area. School areas are safer now traffic isn’t allowed during those times, the high street is thriving and safer with a lack of cars, hospitality businesses have been able to expand onto the pedestrian street to increase revenue, the lack of traffic provides space for new initiatives like a Halloween disco on the high street, late night Christmas shopping with stalls on the street for food and drink, summer party events and an annual summer festival have improved the local community hugely.
Tangible benefits.

This all really lovely, but surely you realise that the tangible benefits you are seeing are exclusive to you and those few residents within your exclusive zone? How about other SEND parents in your position, but not blessed by yoour location? They are forced into school run times 4 x daily which are in many areas, quadrupled. Not helped by the fact of course that school places for our disabled children are rarely in walking distance of our homes, we all are forced to travel extensively to ensure their needs are met. Bus routes have been reduced in frequency, which means packed and prolonged journey times due to the high levels oof traffic from boundary areas and beyond your area, thus seeing anything but "tangible benefits" This obilterates the ability of many parents to hold down work as understandably, most employers are not so sympathetic tto parents needing 3- 4 hours daily on the school run. This may not be your experience, but I can tell you firsthand it is a grim reality for many of us, with no choice, yet your location alone negates our right to enjoy our local area, get children safely to school on time, hold employment or a life, just because your street gets to host a Halloween street party. Forgive me, but this is just nuts.

Then there are other barriers to consider that I genuinely hope your child is unaffected by. Those with visual impairments are placed at risk of harm via the floating bus stops, why is this acceptable?

https://www.rnib.org.uk/news/rnib-demonstrates-the-dangers-of-floating-bus-stops-ahead-of-key-vote/

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/120877/html/

These are still being implemented, despite safety concerns being raised in 2016:
https://www.transportforall.org.uk/blog/2016/05/19/tfl-stop-building-floating-bus-stops-until-safety-concerns-are-dealt-with/

And now... the "tangible benefits" you speak of:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gllpxx6d3o

https://enfielddispatch.co.uk/traffic-congestion-worsened-by-ltns-and-bus-lanes-in-some-parts-of-london-tfl-admits/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/tfl-suppressed-report-ltns-car-use-b1248287.html

https://www.regit.cars/car-news/tfl-admits-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-are-making-london-traffic-worse

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/29/ltn-traffic-jams-slow-buses-tfl-london/

I really hope this affords you some understanding that the tangible benefits you see are a very much limited experience, from those in privileged areas, predictably white, middle class, traditionally Labour voting. Those of bus in London enduring anything but tangible benefits have a very different experience, it brings great misery and stress, which is difficult to reconcile, when there are literally no improvements to either car us, congestion or improvements to alternative travel methods.

Low-traffic neighbourhoods: How the culture wars came to a street near you

Conflict over the government’s latest car reduction measures is dividing communities across England.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/uk/2020/11/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-ltns-london-car-street-cycling-walking-culture-war-pollution-gentrification

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 11:11

Batsratscatsgnats · Today 10:33

The tangible benefits are cleaner air and better fed kids? What is bad about that?

Excveot the former is untrue and I wholly support FSM, though would like to see nutritional value improved to get closer towards "better fed kids". It is a great start though and much needed.

RuinartRuination · Today 11:15

CurlewKate · Today 04:21

What has he done that you don’t like?

Total recorded crime has increased substantially between the start of his mayoralty and today.
I know his office has provided some favourable looking headline numbers but robbery and theft have gone up 60% and 33% respectively.
Solved crime has gone from 9.7% to 3.1%.

I could go on.

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 11:15

Arbourimage · Today 10:39

Can you actually explain how getting to work, museums or other cultural sites has genuinely become “an expensive living hell” due to LTNs?
This seems utterly hyperbolic from anything I’ve actually seen in real life.

Bus routes have been reduced in frequency, so are generally late and when they arrived, packed to the rafters, this affords us no alternative to driving. This is due to the fact that congestion is so bad that taxis triple their rates to get us to a station, therefore increasing costs and Blue Badge parking is limited, so cannot park close to a station any longer, and if we did it is over £8 per hour, versus the £2.25 it was less than a year ago.
Aside from finance, the "hell" bit comes from having applied precision planning into day trips for a high and complex needs child, which are rendered useless if they are battered & distressed, from the journey before we even arrive close to our destination of gallery, museum, theatre etc.

Arbourimage · Today 11:16

This all really lovely, but surely you realise that the tangible benefits you are seeing are exclusive to you and those few residents within your exclusive zone?

And you seem unable to comprehend that the negatives you see only apply to a few people too. The vast majority of parents are not spending 4 hours on the school run due to LTNs, a majority of parents are absolutely not forced out of work due to LTN’s.

Frankly a random copy and paste of 10s of random articles barely relating to your point that communities and business have been “decimated” is not an argument and it’s not a comment I’m going to sit and read.

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 11:26

Bus routes have been reduced in frequency, so are generally late and when they arrive, packed to the rafters, this affords us no alternative to driving. This is due to the fact that congestion is so bad that taxis triple their rates with "spikes" to get us to a station, therefore increasing costs and Blue Badge parking is now limited, so cannot park close to a station any longer for a full day, and if we did it is over £8 per hour, versus the £2.25 it was less than a year ago, which was slightly more affordable. For reference, we also have to carry a fair bit of kit with us for any excursions with DC, so this is also a factor in any day trip planning.

Aside from finance, the "hell" bit comes from having applied precision planning into day trips for a high and complex needs child, which are rendered useless if our child is battered & distressed, from the journey before we even arrive close to our destination of gallery, museum, theatre etc.

Please note: The above is multiplied by a thousand for medical appointment day trips which are a living hell whichever travel method we choose.

Often for central London venues, we will take the financial hit and drive all the way there, paying a premium for parking just to avoid the hassle of all the above. At least then DC is in a comfortable, familiar environment, not crowded and can arrive relaxed and happy and not be at risk of harm. Not ideal, but often having weighed all options up, worth the investment in petrol, time and driving stress, versus trying "not to drive", which is insane to me in our capital city.

Regarding work, it is impossible as a full time carer who wants employment to do so as journey times simply eat to much of the working day up. My partner endures a bus route of almost 45 minutes to travel to our nearest station, so this eats into his working day and our limited family time. Where possible, I try and drive to collect him, which again negates the purpose of LTN;s but often I can. be quicker than the bus as in peak times, he often needs to wait for the next bus to board as the first one is so paved it does not even open the doors for entry. Then he haas a tube or train journey depending upon his office location that day. All this costs a great deal of money.

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 11:32

Arbourimage · Today 11:16

This all really lovely, but surely you realise that the tangible benefits you are seeing are exclusive to you and those few residents within your exclusive zone?

And you seem unable to comprehend that the negatives you see only apply to a few people too. The vast majority of parents are not spending 4 hours on the school run due to LTNs, a majority of parents are absolutely not forced out of work due to LTN’s.

Frankly a random copy and paste of 10s of random articles barely relating to your point that communities and business have been “decimated” is not an argument and it’s not a comment I’m going to sit and read.

I have bothered responding to your queries, if you cannot be bothered to read what has been provided to you, I cannot help you.

Your location alone very much means you are the minority, not the majority we fall within. Many like us yes, have reduced or dropped work altogether for the same reasons as us, not through choice but necessity. Consider yourself blessed, but perhaps consider that the size and population of your local borough way exceeds your single street and that the experiences outside of your bubble are likely not so pleasant?

Finally, if you bothered to read a handful of the articles linked, you would understand that actually life is not a box of chocolates under these schemes for many in London, but you carry on and sit and read what suits you. Have a great day ;-)

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 11:52

BigYellowBus · Today 11:06

This is not my experience. I walk through Trafalgar Square every morning and I can honestly say that at 9am it is spotless. Yes there are cyclists on pavements but it's hardly a Mad Max-style post-apocalypse nightmare. In fact London is one of the greenest and least polluted cities in Europe

https://www.essentialliving.co.uk/blogs-insights/the-greenest-cities-in-europe

My experience is vastly different.

BigYellowBus · Today 11:54

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 11:52

My experience is vastly different.

Do tell!

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 11:57

BigYellowBus · Today 11:54

Do tell!

Didn’t you read my post above?

It sets it out.

BigYellowBus · Today 12:14

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 11:57

Didn’t you read my post above?

It sets it out.

I don't see London drowning in rubbish and if it is, it's likely the responsibility of local authorities not the GLA. I don't believe crime is rising, public transport is still excellent (yes, I spend two hours a day on it - hopefully people listening to music without headphones will gradually disappear) and London is still full of parks. It's still a great city and, yes, I do agree with others that the complaints about Sadiq are largely not based on his perceived actions

Still, wasn't Boris great.?

DoubleShotEspresso · Today 12:14

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 11:52

My experience is vastly different.

I think that rubbish levels vary hugely between boroughs. I would agree with the previous poster that Central London, specifically the West End is pretty immaculate considering the huge footfall it gets. But many outer areas are really struggling, especially those with fortnightly collections and many high streets are quite grim, I think the explosion of takeaways does not help this a lot.
It's always sad visiting green spaces where peo0ple seem incapable of finding a bin when there are plenty!

52inJan · Today 12:19

CozItsHotOut · Today 10:34

To try to spin ULEZ (or pedestrianisation!) as some sort of cynical ‘for profit’ exercise is ridiculous!

Any responsible, forward thinking Mayor who actually cared about the city would understand that we simply cannot go on allowing traffic congestion to increase and air quality to get worse in London.

The city would very quickly become a dystopian nightmare if we didn’t put in deterrents to stop people driving anywhere, at any time.

No, things aren’t perfect.

The city hasn’t yet caught up with the explosion of cyclists and e-bikes and scooters, and that absolutely needs better management.

Public transport is still too expensive.

The city has a long way to go with regards to accessibility for disabled people. (I would love to see a central London tram or trolley system put in place and FAR MORE pedestrianisation in the West End and around the river).

BUT…

Air quality is improving. This has got to be a good thing!?!

The culture of driving everywhere is changing and largely Londoners have adjusted to restrictions. I remember people moaning in the 90s when parking restrictions came in around the West End. Then moaning about the congestion charge. People don’t like change, but guess what…we survived! And the thought of people being able to drive into the West End park wherever they want to is now unthinkable and frankly, stupid!

We are extremely fortunate to have one of the best public transport systems (if not THE best) in the world. The fact that Oxford Street is served by four tube stations (Marble Arch, Bond St, Oxford Circus, Tottenham Court Road) and has buses running on all side streets and at major intersections, is testament to that.

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A nice measured response 👏 that speaks more truth than the stats, generalisations and quotes from editorial posted in this thread.

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