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Lefties and Centrists of London - would you consider voting against the current mayor in the next election?

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hotmumshit · Yesterday 18:06

Cant get a bus down Oxford Street
Crime hasn't gone anywhere, only the phone bike thieves due to international outcry
Housing still a mess

I am a lifelong leftie, but I am not voting the current mayor in again.

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BigYellowBus · Yesterday 18:43

Crime has gone down, the air quality has improved and Oxford Street will be much improved by pedestrianisation. I will definitely be voting for Sadiq should he stand again

pointythings · Yesterday 18:49

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hotmumshit · Yesterday 18:55

Okay. I am genuinely sick of the way things are but didnt want a right wing thread.

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pointythings · Yesterday 19:02

hotmumshit · Yesterday 18:55

Okay. I am genuinely sick of the way things are but didnt want a right wing thread.

Then maybe you shouldn't have posted inaccurate information about crime...

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:06

Crime is still ridiculous here - just ridiculous shit everywhere and now I cant do my annual Christmas lights bus tour with dc because Oxford Street is pedestrianised. Fuck us limited mobility people eh.

Sick of it. I've had enough, but in a normal way, not in a 'we're taking our country back' kind of way.

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CozItsHotOut · Yesterday 19:09

I think the pedestrianisation of Oxford St is a good thing.

Crime has gone down.

Air quality is better.

So, no.

LlynTegid · Yesterday 19:11

I hope it is not an option. I saw the current Mayor being given a peerage as a subtle hint to him to not seek a further term. I am sure his party can find better candidates, perhaps there could be a woman chosen.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:12

CozItsHotOut · Yesterday 19:09

I think the pedestrianisation of Oxford St is a good thing.

Crime has gone down.

Air quality is better.

So, no.

What about people who cant walk the route or cycle? How do they get to enjoy selfridges or the Disney shop?

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pointythings · Yesterday 19:18

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:12

What about people who cant walk the route or cycle? How do they get to enjoy selfridges or the Disney shop?

Well, my DS is a wheelchair user. He doesn't live in London, but he manages the pedestrianised parts of the city where he lives rather better than those which are not pedestrianised.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:19

pointythings · Yesterday 19:18

Well, my DS is a wheelchair user. He doesn't live in London, but he manages the pedestrianised parts of the city where he lives rather better than those which are not pedestrianised.

We are not wheelchair users.

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CozItsHotOut · Yesterday 19:24

@hotmumshit

There are always winners and losers. But my opinion is overall, it’s the best decision.

To be honest, they’ve only closed it to traffic from Marble Arch to Oxford Circus, so plenty of public transport and taxi options are still available very close by and it won’t affect people going to Selfridges, which is right at one end of the street.

Hopefully it will rejuvenate Oxford Street, which is dying on its arse with sketchy sweet shops and Arabian oud shops and just complete tat. The plans are eventually going to include greenery, seating areas and event spaces - sounds much more pleasant than car fumes and failing businesses.

It’s certainly not an issue that would make me vote against Sadiq or Labour, which is what you asked,

AlertCat · Yesterday 19:29

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:12

What about people who cant walk the route or cycle? How do they get to enjoy selfridges or the Disney shop?

Surely it depends on why they can’t walk or cycle? In my local town, there is still vehicular access for certain vehicles (like deliveries, or taxis). Why is a bus the only possible way to access those shops? Genuine question.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:29

CozItsHotOut · Yesterday 19:24

@hotmumshit

There are always winners and losers. But my opinion is overall, it’s the best decision.

To be honest, they’ve only closed it to traffic from Marble Arch to Oxford Circus, so plenty of public transport and taxi options are still available very close by and it won’t affect people going to Selfridges, which is right at one end of the street.

Hopefully it will rejuvenate Oxford Street, which is dying on its arse with sketchy sweet shops and Arabian oud shops and just complete tat. The plans are eventually going to include greenery, seating areas and event spaces - sounds much more pleasant than car fumes and failing businesses.

It’s certainly not an issue that would make me vote against Sadiq or Labour, which is what you asked,

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'There are always winners and losers'

There are people who are excluded from enjoying London's shopping street due to disability, not losers. And I dont see what pedestrianisg the street will do to rent prices, i'm afraid.

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Cloudyz7 · Yesterday 19:29

I’m massively in favour of the pedestrianisation of Oxford Street.

Genuinely don’t understand how this is bad for people with disabilities. As it is, Oxford Street must be hell on earth is you have limited mobility. Even if you get dropped off by a taxi, you still have to deal with the crowds and Selfridges (which a PP mentioned) is huge.

in any case, you can still get dropped off on Wigmore street.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:30

AlertCat · Yesterday 19:29

Surely it depends on why they can’t walk or cycle? In my local town, there is still vehicular access for certain vehicles (like deliveries, or taxis). Why is a bus the only possible way to access those shops? Genuine question.

That wont be the case here, there is zero access unless for deliveries, AFAIK. There is no bus or taxi access.

If there were, this wouldn't be an issue.

This street is very long.

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CozItsHotOut · Yesterday 19:31

What are your concerns about the pedestrianisation of Oxford St and disabled people? It’s not clear

BigYellowBus · Yesterday 19:31

London is a very safe city. What exactly do you expect Sadiq to do that would eradicate crime completely?

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:31

Cloudyz7 · Yesterday 19:29

I’m massively in favour of the pedestrianisation of Oxford Street.

Genuinely don’t understand how this is bad for people with disabilities. As it is, Oxford Street must be hell on earth is you have limited mobility. Even if you get dropped off by a taxi, you still have to deal with the crowds and Selfridges (which a PP mentioned) is huge.

in any case, you can still get dropped off on Wigmore street.

Surprisingly we can cope with crowds, just not long walks, thanks.

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AlertCat · Yesterday 19:33

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:31

Surprisingly we can cope with crowds, just not long walks, thanks.

It seems unusual that such a scheme would have got through accessibility planning if people with limited mobility would be excluded. Can you say more about your particular issue?

Catsandcheese · Yesterday 19:33

Almost every major city in the UK has pedestrian areas. I’m surprised it’s taken so long for Oxford St. tbh you could barely get along it before with the crowds on the pavement and crossing it was horrible.
it’s a huge benefit.

mynameiscalypso · Yesterday 19:33

If he stands again, I will vote for him again. Violent crime is down, the air quality is much improved, the introduction of free school meals for primary school pupils before it was rolled out more widely. All excellent things.

Cloudyz7 · Yesterday 19:34

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:31

Surprisingly we can cope with crowds, just not long walks, thanks.

But the destination shops on Oxford Street are huge. Why is walking outside problematic but walking inside is fine?

hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:36

I cant be arsed for my own thread you know 😪

I am genuine though, not trying to start a Khan hate train - just wont vote for him and would vote for protections for people who cannot cycle. Leaving it there 😒

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hotmumshit · Yesterday 19:37

Cloudyz7 · Yesterday 19:34

But the destination shops on Oxford Street are huge. Why is walking outside problematic but walking inside is fine?

We are able to sit down in places. Thanks.

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CozItsHotOut · Yesterday 19:38

Selfridges has a car park for disabled users, and step free access entrances on Duke St and I think the other side of the shop (?), not the main entrance. The traffic ban won’t affect customers.

Cyclists and scooters are also prohibited from Oxford St in the new arrangements, I thought?

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