Jealous of those who live in A-D?

[MrsMurphyIWish]

I’ve started seeing comments about budget money funnelled into “welfare areas”. DH and I are nearly 50. We were raised in an under privileged area - he, working class and me foster care. We never moved and as teachers of nearly 30 years I think we may not be net contributors but we work bloody hard.

Here’s to all at the council area workers where we bloody work our arses off - I’ll take any benefit that comes our way!

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Anyone in bands A-D.
I’m worth £1.5m but choose to stay in my original band D house. I will get the £100 but certainly don’t need it or want it. This Labour government has got it all wrong!

Hilarious! Doesn’t sound like you’re in the profession. Who do you think makes up the majority of nursing teams in hospitals and community? Band 5 nurses!

Pretty much, yes. In England as a whole, 81% of homes are in A-D. But in Wales that figure is only 73%.

But the real difference is likely wider than that overall figure. Many areas of England, outside the most wealthy areas, typically have 90% of homes in A-D.

It doesn't matter to you but you're insulted by it?

What a bizarre policy. Why not have a lottery as to who gets the £100?

Or at least link it to FSM and other indices of need and deprivation.

80% of people live in a to d properties. So basically only the richest don't get it.

It's not even the richest though. Council tax bands are quite a poor proxy for wealth. It will capture all the poorest though probably and it's an easy way to identify the recipients and then provide the payments.

Yes a poor proxy, but if you can afford a band expand above house £100 really is not going to have any impact on you.

You don't like paying tax in the UK? Do you not like roads, traffic lights or any other infrastructure?

Surely links to FSM would be a lot more complicated and consequently expensive to administer. Equally, they're would be so much moaning about that on the basis of the 'huge' welfare bill.

I'm not suggesting it as a serious, reasoned policy, I'm just suggesting that it would be more targeted at those actually in need than this.

Means testing is what you are advocating for but the reality is this is going to cost more to administer.

Why are people talking about Band X areas? There's no such thing. Properties are assessed individually. I used to live in the south west, in a row of 250 year old terraced canal cottages. They all started life as identical 1 down, 2 up houses but over the 250 years each had had bits added, been reconfigured etc. and we all had different tax bandings. One friend a few doors down had a house that had literally more than twice the floorspace of ours. She was E and we were C. My immediate neighbour on one side was D and on the other, B. The situation is the same where I live now, a tiny new build development with a mixture of house designs. We all have different tax bands.

Targeted is perceived as unfair by some though and it is definitely more expensive to administer.

While 85% of people seems like a lot to be receiving of a benefit this makes perfect sense from a PR point of view.

It is a populist policy, we know that broadly "the middle" are irritated at paying in and not "getting" anything back (nonsense as we all benefit from the NHS, roads, flood defences, a good education system etc.)

If the govt. brought out another COL relief measure that was targeted at those on benefits - those who are measurably the lowest earners/contributors then the "the middle" would have another thing to be annoyed at, for the other parties to capitalise on.

£200 in COL energy relief measures will make a big difference to those who are lower earners, it is 5% of our monthly take home pay - that's HUGE for us. Giving it to those who do not "need" it takes the sting out of it for the middle who feel like they are overlooked by these policies historically.

I don't understand your title. Who is jealous of them - you or "other people"?
Areas can have a variety of homes, each with its own tax band, which might or might not be the same as the next door neighbour's. There are no such things as tax band areas.

Don’t worry about that £100 OP it’s a sweetener and a con because When they stop standing charges Gas and Electricity will go up to claw this money back in. So no one is better off in reality .

Just for interest, just looked up the property bands for my road. Seventeen properties and all bar one are Band D. The outlier is Band E, but is far from the biggest house on the road - others (including mine) have been extensively renovated/extended.

One that has very recently been sold is still listed as Band E, but I imagine will be re-banded following the sale. Mine is definitely tagged on the Land Registry for re-banding on any change of ownership.

ETA: The Government council tax band look-up service is currently experiencing very high traffic. Quelle surprise.😆

The NHS’s own statistics show that most nurses are band 6 and above. 😊

Nope. No advocation for means testing from me. That would suggest I support
this carry on. The whole scheme is flawed. Too little to help the needy as well as not targeted correctly. Seems like vote buying to me. Makes no sense in terms of impact.

Did you read any of the thread before commenting?

Yes.
I was replying to specific comments.

The part of that post is because it is pissed up the wall which this is a case of.

So go onto right move now and take a look at council tax bands. You would be hard pressed to open a single page of properties in any town or city and not find egregious examples of misplaced/incorrect council tax bands. The links I have posted are not the result of exhaustive research. So to say ‘basically only the richest don’t get it’ is clearly incorrect before you even start to factor in the house rich cash poor. The whole scheme is a vote buying vanity project.