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Christa Pikes is awake and ‘talking’

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wouldntyouwanthelp · 06/10/2026 22:32

She’s out of the coma and talking to her lawyers. Aibu to think the state of Tennessee can’t possibly try to do the lethal injection again ? Surely not? People on Reddit are suggesting she might need an amputation of one of her arms because of how caustic pentobarbital is.

Christa Pike 'conscious and speaking at hospital' after failed execution in US
https://news.sky.com/share/13595950

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Violinist64 · 07/10/2026 10:50

@Fredabasset, Albert Pierrepoint said years later that he was glad that the death penalty had been abolished.

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2026 10:51

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:46

Yeah and she managed to survive it twice. ‘So god must be on her side’ 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

You said earlier that you believe that things happen for a reason, with regard to the botched execution. This means you believe in an external force that deliberately causes things like botched executions when it deems the person to deserve them (and even you must admit it applies that somewhat inconsistently, but hey ho).

In what way is that not belief in a god?

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:51

NormasArse · 07/10/2026 10:48

She’s being treated with compassion- unlike her victim.

She needs to stay in prison forever.

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 10:51

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:19

I understand that, but still she would have known wrong from right as she grew up, torturing and murdering someone isn’t right. There are a lot of people in the world who have had really shitty childhoods but they don’t all end up murdering and torturing someone.

How?

Do you think that people know how to speak if they aren't taught?

How to dress themselves?

They are surrounded by people who do those things, so they learn.

What do you learn when you are surrounded by people who beat and rape you from an early age, with complete immunity and YOU are punished when you ask for help?

You have a very idealistic and romantic view of people's nature if you really think a very young person doesnt learn exactly what's been taught, which is that violence is fine.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:52

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2026 10:47

Why? I don't know why I should and I don't care why I should. It's what I believe, what else matters? What, you're saying this isn't a mature or intelligent approach?

Figures that you're more pissed off about me applying this logic to your posts than about you applying it to killing people.

As I said I hope this sort of crime doesn’t happen to anyone you love or close to.

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 10:53

Sidebeforeself · 07/10/2026 10:44

OK . Since you are struggling I’ll try again. Some posters on here are talking about Gods intervention etc. My opinion is that God doesnt exist and this , to me, is an example of why not. I was asked to explain so I did , making my point with a rhetorical question.

I do hope the penny has dropped now. I am guessing you disagree with my beliefs - fine. But don’t pretend you dont understand my point.

No the "penny hasn't dropped" as you so patronisingly put it.
I don't see how I can disagree with your beliefs as you don't have any!
I'm not "pretending" anything, so please don't post your assumptions based on second guessing my thought processes.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 10:53

LadyBlueberry · 07/10/2026 07:29

I do think all this hand wringing about her awful childhood and how it should have been taken into account at the time that she was sentenced is dangerous tosh.

I think that because if it becomes an accepted, official view then it won't be very long before it is abused.

Every rapist and murderer-and in most cases the victim is a woman or child-will be able to ask for his woes as a child to be taken into account and you can bet your bottom dollar that his defence team will become adept at finding these woes.

Over time, the definition of an awful childhood will be widened so that it there is a real possibility that a criminal who had his legs slapped by his parent will be judged to be a victim.

That's the way our current world turns.

A bad childhood, no matter how bad, should never be a reason for a reduced sentence and most women should be very wary of putting that forward as something to be attained.

In this particular case, a horrific murder was committed by a woman who then went on to try and commit another one in gaol. I see that a poster has already popped on to try and present that attempted murder as a good deed.

All this is rubbish.

No childhood should be taken into account when a crime has been committed because it makes no difference, it can not be a get out of gaol free card-and it will, it really will, be exploited.

Sorry, Betty, your rapist was sexually abused when he was a child so try to accept that when he raped and blinded you, he was also a victim so he will get a reduced sentence.

And then, 3 years later

Sorry, Doris, your rapist had PDA when he was a child and so he was also a victim when he raped and blinded you, so he will get a reduced sentence.

And then, 8 years later.

Sorry, Doris. Your rapist was brought up in poverty while his mother was at the pub and so he was also a victim when he raped and blinded you, so he will get a reduced sentence.

No-one's childhood should be taken into account for their adult crimes. It's not a discount card.

If you believe that, you dispose of the centuries-long practice of allowing a plea in mitigation.

Think of it another way. A woman has had an abusive and violent childhood. At the age of 18, she believes that another man is trying to abuse her. She plans carefully how to kill him and succeeds. Should she really be punished in exactly the same way as another person who, say, kills someone just for the fun of it?

PrincessofWills · 07/10/2026 10:54

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:19

I understand that, but still she would have known wrong from right as she grew up, torturing and murdering someone isn’t right. There are a lot of people in the world who have had really shitty childhoods but they don’t all end up murdering and torturing someone.

Read the psychology report on Christa Pike and you might start having some understanding of what happened to the child. She didn't just have a 'shitty childhood'.

MrsShawnHatosy · 07/10/2026 10:55

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 10:46

@ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey Anyone who works as an executioner is no more trustworthy than the people they execute.
That's nonsense.
If they weren't either trustworthy or reliable they wouldn't be in a job very long (In UK.)
William Calcraft: Served for 45 years (1829–1874) and carried out an estimated 450 executions, officiating most famously at Newgate Prison. He managed both the last public hanging and the first private hanging in Britain.
While Calcraft served the longest chronological span, Albert Pierrepoint is the most famous and prolific 20th-century British executioner, serving for 25 years (from 1931/1932 as an assistant until his resignation in 1956) and executing over 400 people.
I can't speak for any other countries.

Albert Pierrepoint turned against the death penalty in the end. He said he didn’t think it had achieved anything.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:56

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 10:51

How?

Do you think that people know how to speak if they aren't taught?

How to dress themselves?

They are surrounded by people who do those things, so they learn.

What do you learn when you are surrounded by people who beat and rape you from an early age, with complete immunity and YOU are punished when you ask for help?

You have a very idealistic and romantic view of people's nature if you really think a very young person doesnt learn exactly what's been taught, which is that violence is fine.

So do you think the same with ted bundy? John Wayne gacy? Ian Brady? Myra hindley? Fred west? Rose west? Levi bell field? Harold shipman? Do you think murderers have been taught this from a young age? Every single one?

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 10:59

BeardofHagrid · 07/10/2026 07:51

It’s not a botched execution….yet. Get her in front of that firing squad 😆

Fr tho, this is a nightmare for the victim’s family, they are in my thoughts and prayers.

The sheer irony of claiming to pray whilst asking for someone to be killed in cold blood is staggering. Does your religion dismiss all those wet lefty bits about forgiveness and commandments not to kill?

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 10:59

Violinist64 · 07/10/2026 10:50

@Fredabasset, Albert Pierrepoint said years later that he was glad that the death penalty had been abolished.

But he made a good living out of it at the time. He said that because he didn't believe that it acted as a deterrent.
His work also included executing 100's of Nazi War Criminals BTW

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2026 11:00

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:52

As I said I hope this sort of crime doesn’t happen to anyone you love or close to.

So do I. What's that got to do with it?

In what way is your belief in a force that causes botched executions as a form of cosmic justice, and makes things happen "for a reason", not a belief in a god?

Sidebeforeself · 07/10/2026 11:01

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 10:53

No the "penny hasn't dropped" as you so patronisingly put it.
I don't see how I can disagree with your beliefs as you don't have any!
I'm not "pretending" anything, so please don't post your assumptions based on second guessing my thought processes.

I am not going to argue with you any more. As you say, this thread isnt about that.

LadyBlueberry · 07/10/2026 11:01

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 10:53

If you believe that, you dispose of the centuries-long practice of allowing a plea in mitigation.

Think of it another way. A woman has had an abusive and violent childhood. At the age of 18, she believes that another man is trying to abuse her. She plans carefully how to kill him and succeeds. Should she really be punished in exactly the same way as another person who, say, kills someone just for the fun of it?

Maybe you didn't see my follow up post where I wrote that I do believe in some mitigating circumstances and gave examples of some of them.

However, I stand by my point that a bad childhood should not be a mitigating circumstance for an adult crime. It will not benefit women and girls when our rapists and murderers put this forward as a plea for clemency, a discount.

Shocking as it is, many of them will exaggerate their bad childhoods or even make one up in exchange for a sentence discount.

No, a bad childhood is not something you can trade on for ever: many many people have them and live law abiding lives.

If they have had such a bad childhood that it has made them a danger, then it could be argued that they might be judged even more of a danger; as that bad childhood will be with them for ever.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 11:02

LadyBlueberry · 07/10/2026 11:01

Maybe you didn't see my follow up post where I wrote that I do believe in some mitigating circumstances and gave examples of some of them.

However, I stand by my point that a bad childhood should not be a mitigating circumstance for an adult crime. It will not benefit women and girls when our rapists and murderers put this forward as a plea for clemency, a discount.

Shocking as it is, many of them will exaggerate their bad childhoods or even make one up in exchange for a sentence discount.

No, a bad childhood is not something you can trade on for ever: many many people have them and live law abiding lives.

If they have had such a bad childhood that it has made them a danger, then it could be argued that they might be judged even more of a danger; as that bad childhood will be with them for ever.

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PrincessofWills · 07/10/2026 11:03

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 10:53

If you believe that, you dispose of the centuries-long practice of allowing a plea in mitigation.

Think of it another way. A woman has had an abusive and violent childhood. At the age of 18, she believes that another man is trying to abuse her. She plans carefully how to kill him and succeeds. Should she really be punished in exactly the same way as another person who, say, kills someone just for the fun of it?

I'm on your side, but you are a bit misleading. The thought processes are not 'normal' processes in people with PTSD and bipolar and disassociative states. The problem with a lot of these posts are people are substituting their own thought processes for those of Christa Pike. Her thought processes were entirely outside the norm due to mental illness caused mostly by the severe traumas throughout her childhood. In fact starting at the point of birth and possibly even before that (due to drug and alcohol use by her mother), and continuing with the oral rapes at 2 and subsequent sexual and physical abuse, rapes and neglect.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:03

Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:11

Most people who commit terrible murders have awful back stories filled with trauma. Most people who commit crimes have had difficult lives. They still need to be punished with due severity for terrible crimes both to keep the public safe from them and to deter similar crimes.

If we gave short sentences to people with sad backstories our prisons would be emptier but there would be a lot more victims and society would be a lot less safe.

The objectives of the justice system are not, fortunately, confined to punishment. It would be utterly stupid to work on that basis, when rehabilitation is at least as useful.

The notion of the death sentence as a deterrent is nonsense anyway, as demonstrated by homicide figures in US states that allow the death penalty.

PrincessofWills · 07/10/2026 11:06

LadyBlueberry · 07/10/2026 11:01

Maybe you didn't see my follow up post where I wrote that I do believe in some mitigating circumstances and gave examples of some of them.

However, I stand by my point that a bad childhood should not be a mitigating circumstance for an adult crime. It will not benefit women and girls when our rapists and murderers put this forward as a plea for clemency, a discount.

Shocking as it is, many of them will exaggerate their bad childhoods or even make one up in exchange for a sentence discount.

No, a bad childhood is not something you can trade on for ever: many many people have them and live law abiding lives.

If they have had such a bad childhood that it has made them a danger, then it could be argued that they might be judged even more of a danger; as that bad childhood will be with them for ever.

Thankfully what you believe should be the law, and what IS the law are entirely different.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:06

iwentothemfmountaintop · 07/10/2026 08:18

Hopefully they do it properly this time. Her crimes were absolutely evil and I feel no sympathy for her whatsoever. Plenty of people go through trauma and don’t do what she did!

Have a look at the description of the trauma Pike suffered throughout her childhood a few posts up from yours. Do tell us about the "plenty" of people who went through all of that, in addition to being born with damage from Foetal Alcohol Syndrome, who end up living upright peaceful lives.

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 11:07

MrsShawnHatosy · 07/10/2026 10:55

Albert Pierrepoint turned against the death penalty in the end. He said he didn’t think it had achieved anything.

As I said upthread, he didn't believe it acted as a deterrent.

Waxstamp · 07/10/2026 11:08

I find it strange they gave her hospital treatment after the botch. Why resuscitate someone to kill them at a later date, it seems particularly cruel and unethical.

Couldn’t they have just given her another lethal dose whilst unconscious. Vets manage to put animals down easily enough.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:09

Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:20

The sad truth is that trauma can produce very dangerous people.

You are essentially arguing that dangerous people should be released on the public, creating more victims, bevause you feel
sad about the causes that made the person dangerous.

And it is heartbreaking to think about the trauma that made someone dangerous.

But the main fact needs to remain that they are dangerous and the public needs to be kept safe from them.

I don't thing the poster here was was saying she should be released. She almost certainly needs to go to a secure hospital to receive treatment and care, although regrettably the opportunity to give her real help has almost certainly been lost through years of incarceration.

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 11:10

Sidebeforeself · 07/10/2026 11:01

I am not going to argue with you any more. As you say, this thread isnt about that.

Exactly.
But you were the one who wanted to bring God or lack of God into it !

Missey85 · 07/10/2026 11:11

PrincessofWills · 07/10/2026 10:54

Read the psychology report on Christa Pike and you might start having some understanding of what happened to the child. She didn't just have a 'shitty childhood'.

So do lots of people I was 2 when I was first SA it happened daily along with PA until I was 14 and left home I've somehow managed not to torture or murder anybody 🤷 I have a diagnosis of cptsd and depression I also have epilepsy due to the physical assaults