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Christa Pikes is awake and ‘talking’

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wouldntyouwanthelp · 06/10/2026 22:32

She’s out of the coma and talking to her lawyers. Aibu to think the state of Tennessee can’t possibly try to do the lethal injection again ? Surely not? People on Reddit are suggesting she might need an amputation of one of her arms because of how caustic pentobarbital is.

Christa Pike 'conscious and speaking at hospital' after failed execution in US
https://news.sky.com/share/13595950

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Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 11:12

@Waxstamp Couldn’t they have just given her another lethal dose whilst unconscious. Vets manage to put animals down easily enough.

Vets are trained to locate the necessary veins.
The people concerned with the execution aren't medically trained.

Yetanotherone12 · 07/10/2026 11:13

Waxstamp · 07/10/2026 11:08

I find it strange they gave her hospital treatment after the botch. Why resuscitate someone to kill them at a later date, it seems particularly cruel and unethical.

Couldn’t they have just given her another lethal dose whilst unconscious. Vets manage to put animals down easily enough.

They didn’t need to do anything.

all they needed to do was stop active life saving measures. She was resuscitated, ventilated, on life support.

it seems exceptionally brutal and inhumane to put someone through such interventions just so she can be put through another execution.

if she deserved to die for her crime, why not just let her die.

this is where it crosses the line from execution to torture and revenge killing. That is no longer justice.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 11:15

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2026 11:00

So do I. What's that got to do with it?

In what way is your belief in a force that causes botched executions as a form of cosmic justice, and makes things happen "for a reason", not a belief in a god?

Just because I believe everything happens for a reason doesn’t mean I believe in a god and that it is gods work.

As I’ve said previously, she should be dead by now she was given the lethal injection twice. Whether it was botched or not doesn’t mean she shouldn’t still get her punishment and be excused because it was ‘botched’ the state haven’t deliberately thought oh we will make her suffer have they? I just believe in karma but that’s my belief and I am entitled to that, just like you don’t believe in the death penalty, what I don’t understand is people feeling sorry for her because her childhood was horrendous and in my mind makes me think she should be excused from the crime she committed because of that and should be shown empathy and sympathy because of this ‘botched’ event. The victim and the victims family/friends had to listen to what she did to their family member and friend and it’s horrendous. If those family members and friends read this thread I wonder how they would feel about the people excusing her crime because of her childhood. As I have also mentioned and I’ll do it again as I seem to have to repeat myself, there are many people all over the world who have had traumatic experiences, life events and childhoods but they don’t all go on to murdering and torturing innocent people. So that is no excuse.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 11:16

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:06

Have a look at the description of the trauma Pike suffered throughout her childhood a few posts up from yours. Do tell us about the "plenty" of people who went through all of that, in addition to being born with damage from Foetal Alcohol Syndrome, who end up living upright peaceful lives.

It really doesn't matter why they hurt innocent people. What matters is that they hurt innocent people.

If a man with foetal alcohol syndrome rapes and beats a woman, for example, and tries to use that condition as an excuse, I really don't give a shit. If anything, the fact that he has a condition that apparently makes him prone to abusing and raping women, just means he should be locked away forever.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 11:17

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:56

So do you think the same with ted bundy? John Wayne gacy? Ian Brady? Myra hindley? Fred west? Rose west? Levi bell field? Harold shipman? Do you think murderers have been taught this from a young age? Every single one?

No, but I dont think anyone with the slightest bit of sense would think that a stable loving background would have turned almost all those people into less violent ones. Im quite sure most of the ones you mentioned knew what they were doing is wrong. Can we be so sure about Pike, given her entire childhood was surrounded by unchecked violence?

Pike was a mentally ill, reactive person born with FAS.

Of course she shouldnt be given a 'free pass' to hurt and kill, and suggesting she should is ridiculous.

But it could be taken into account during sentencing. We're not talking about someone whose dog got run over and went ape. We're talking about a systematically abused young woman. Life imprisonment seems far more appropriate

Waxstamp · 07/10/2026 11:18

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 11:12

@Waxstamp Couldn’t they have just given her another lethal dose whilst unconscious. Vets manage to put animals down easily enough.

Vets are trained to locate the necessary veins.
The people concerned with the execution aren't medically trained.

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This is the obvious problem them. I’d expect an executioner to know how to execute someone successfully. Ridiculous.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:18

LowlandLucky · 07/10/2026 09:28

And if she had tortured your child until they were dead then kept a piece of their skull as a trophy would you be saying the same. You wouldn't know how it would feel to know your child was murdered in such a way. Maybe Colleen's mother should have the final say.

We gave up deciding punishment based on victims' primitive revenge responses long ago, because we became a civilised society.

Leaving punishments to be decided by relatives would clearly be wrong. On that basis, if you were deciding on your actions cold-bloodedly, it would be in your interests to kill only the children of practising Christians who would feel they have to practise the doctrine of forgiveness.

Waxstamp · 07/10/2026 11:19

Yetanotherone12 · 07/10/2026 11:13

They didn’t need to do anything.

all they needed to do was stop active life saving measures. She was resuscitated, ventilated, on life support.

it seems exceptionally brutal and inhumane to put someone through such interventions just so she can be put through another execution.

if she deserved to die for her crime, why not just let her die.

this is where it crosses the line from execution to torture and revenge killing. That is no longer justice.

I agree entirely.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:22

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 09:34

Very rare an execution is botched though? I believe everything happens for a reason, her crime was atrocious and because of that now is her execution.

If everything happens for a reason, why was Kite horrifically abused as a child? Why did innocent people get killed in the Burma floods? Why do children die of cancer? Come to that, what had Colleen Slemmer done to deserve her death?

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2026 11:22

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 11:15

Just because I believe everything happens for a reason doesn’t mean I believe in a god and that it is gods work.

As I’ve said previously, she should be dead by now she was given the lethal injection twice. Whether it was botched or not doesn’t mean she shouldn’t still get her punishment and be excused because it was ‘botched’ the state haven’t deliberately thought oh we will make her suffer have they? I just believe in karma but that’s my belief and I am entitled to that, just like you don’t believe in the death penalty, what I don’t understand is people feeling sorry for her because her childhood was horrendous and in my mind makes me think she should be excused from the crime she committed because of that and should be shown empathy and sympathy because of this ‘botched’ event. The victim and the victims family/friends had to listen to what she did to their family member and friend and it’s horrendous. If those family members and friends read this thread I wonder how they would feel about the people excusing her crime because of her childhood. As I have also mentioned and I’ll do it again as I seem to have to repeat myself, there are many people all over the world who have had traumatic experiences, life events and childhoods but they don’t all go on to murdering and torturing innocent people. So that is no excuse.

Just because I believe everything happens for a reason doesn’t mean I believe in a god

But it does. Otherwise, who decides what the reason is, and what should happen for that reason, and makes it happen? It's an external force with a will that it exerts on the world. That's a god.

I just believe in karma

No you don't, you haven't a clue what it is and you've openly expressed your unwillingness to find out and your contempt for the people whose philosophy it is. Executions, especially botched ones, aren't karma.

What you believe in is a vengeful god. As you say, you're entitled to believe in it (nobody has said you can't, stop fretting about that) but a) that doesn't make it true b) it's not karma c) it's a form of god.

Anyway, it's obvious the level of debate I can expect here and I don't want to derail too much. Plus, let me guess, you don't know and you don't care!

Newname26 · 07/10/2026 11:23

LadyBlueberry · 07/10/2026 11:01

Maybe you didn't see my follow up post where I wrote that I do believe in some mitigating circumstances and gave examples of some of them.

However, I stand by my point that a bad childhood should not be a mitigating circumstance for an adult crime. It will not benefit women and girls when our rapists and murderers put this forward as a plea for clemency, a discount.

Shocking as it is, many of them will exaggerate their bad childhoods or even make one up in exchange for a sentence discount.

No, a bad childhood is not something you can trade on for ever: many many people have them and live law abiding lives.

If they have had such a bad childhood that it has made them a danger, then it could be argued that they might be judged even more of a danger; as that bad childhood will be with them for ever.

What would you say is mitigating circumstances?

She was abused and let down her entire life.
Her boyfriend threatened her with a knife but she left he would look after her.

Noodledog · 07/10/2026 11:26

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:50

As many do, she’s not the only person in the world who endured this horrific abuse as a toddler/child there are soo many others who have endured this kind of abuse as young as she did but not every single one goes on to being a torturing, murdering scumbag. You cannot justify this horrendous crime because of her childhood, yes her childhood was horrendous I get that but as I’ve said before it’s not a free pass to doing what she did.

Her lifelong abuse certainly doesn't absolve her of responsibility for her crime, but there is a reason that civilised countries take mitigation into account. I think she should spend her life in prison, but the state torturing and killing her is not something I could ever support. It reduces what is supposed to be the justice system to a system based on vengeance and blood lust. It's not something I want any involvement in tbh, torture and killing isn't my thing.

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 07/10/2026 11:26

When i heard this news my first thought was what the hell must Christa have been thinking when she woke up?! Did she think she was in heaven/hell?! I cannot begin to imagine what was going through her mind in those moments she came round.

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:26

Look at the suspected bombers at RAF Fairford they were released into the community on bail and will be survailed there.

The clue there is in the word "suspected". They haven't been convicted of any crime, and there position is simply not comparable with that of convicted criminals. A hefty proportion of people who get arrested never get charged, let alone convicted.

SerendipityJane · 07/10/2026 11:26

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:18

We gave up deciding punishment based on victims' primitive revenge responses long ago, because we became a civilised society.

Leaving punishments to be decided by relatives would clearly be wrong. On that basis, if you were deciding on your actions cold-bloodedly, it would be in your interests to kill only the children of practising Christians who would feel they have to practise the doctrine of forgiveness.

It also suggests that targeting people with no relatives to take revenge retribution would be a safer route for a novice murderer.

If you want retributive justice, maybe the King Alfred approach is better ?

Washingupdone · 07/10/2026 11:26

It is illegal to carry out abortions in this state but they believe in the death penalty.

RedTagAlan · 07/10/2026 11:27

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:52

As I said I hope this sort of crime doesn’t happen to anyone you love or close to.

A good friend of mine was murdered. For a watch and a couple of pounds. It was a big local story at the time. It was horrific too,

I still don't believe in the death penalty.

MrsShawnHatosy · 07/10/2026 11:27

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:22

If everything happens for a reason, why was Kite horrifically abused as a child? Why did innocent people get killed in the Burma floods? Why do children die of cancer? Come to that, what had Colleen Slemmer done to deserve her death?

This is where “everything happens for a reason” thinking falls down.

Noodledog · 07/10/2026 11:28

@Blackwidowsbite if you think everything happens for a reason, what is the reason for Pike surviving two execution attempts?

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:30

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 09:55

I don’t care what Buddhists think. This woman should have been executed ages ago, it’s a joke how long it takes for criminals to end up on that table in the first place. I have expressed what I believe and as you said I am entitled to, I’ve not invested into researching the figures of failed executions because personally I do not care, they got death because of their crimes. This should be brought back to the UK too. I mean look at what those two ‘fathers’ did to that poor little Preston? Absolutely vile, inhumane and sicken. They should be executed, just like Myra hindley, rose west, Fred west, Ian Brady, Levi bell field etc the pain and suffering they have caused many families and people and yet they get to live even Ian Brady still had control til his death, no one knows where little Keith is still, his own mother couldn’t bury him and died still not knowing because he wanted to keep it to himself like the sick fuck he is. These sort of ‘people’ if that’s what you want to call them, personally they are monsters in my eyes don’t deserve to carry on with their lives even if that is in a prison cell. The families and friends of the victims end up living with trauma and mental illnesses for the rest of theirs while they are still living in a cell and most of them not showing or feeling an ounce of remorse for their crimes.

So what do you think should have happened to convicted killers like Sally Clark, Peter Sullivan, Angela Canning, Stefan Kiszko, the Guildford Four? Should they all have been rushed to the noose as quickly as possible?

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 07/10/2026 11:33

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 10:34

Would you say the same thing if your close family member or child or spouse was killed the same way as this woman killed her victim? 🧐

Would you still be quoting religious paragraphs.

People trot out that argument constantly and it is totally meaningless. Of course many people would want the person who killed their loved one to suffer, but that’s why the family don’t get to be the ones who dole out the sentence, because they cannot be objective. For a family wanting the death penalty isn’t justice it’s vengeance. If families decided we wouldn’t need a court system. Except then what would happen when you got families who didn’t want violent justice but instead but wanted the killer to be free. Then what? Society wouldn’t accept that. Right now people talk about what the families would have wanted because often that is what the family wants. but often it isn’t. And when those families speak out they’re ridiculed by the public. So let’s be honest, none of this “what would you think if” is about the actual families, it’s about thinking that everyone should want their child’s killer to suffer. And the truth is, not everyone would.

Yetanotherone12 · 07/10/2026 11:33

SerendipityJane · 07/10/2026 11:26

It also suggests that targeting people with no relatives to take revenge retribution would be a safer route for a novice murderer.

If you want retributive justice, maybe the King Alfred approach is better ?

we’re also bringing TV shows like Dexter (let’s not mention Gilead) into reality.

it’s ok to kill if you kill people who “deserve it”?

we have someone in a UK prison who is in isolation because he will kill any sex offenders incarcerated with him. There are many people who think he is a hero and should be left to get on with it.

killing is a crime, no justification, no exception.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 11:33

Jon venables? Tortured and killed a 2 year old at the age of 10, Robert Thompson age 10 also, Robert Thompsons childhood, severe physical violence, severe sexual violence by the hands of his father, then his brothers turned on each other and it still carried on after the father left, he went to prison was rehabilitated he’s not been known to commit further offences since.

Jon on the other hand no signs of abuse or violence in his childhood, continues til this day to commit offences and be recalled to prison because he is still a risk and keeps offending. James’s mother is STILL til this day fighting to keep that piece of shit inside as they keep releasing him. She has fought all this time since the brutal death of her son trying to protect other children from this scumbag. This is in my opinion where the death penalty should come into play. The UK have spent so much money trying to help and rehabilitate this one person and he will not change, he will never change and if he is free he will continue to hurt and be a danger to children. It is said that venables was the leader of what happened to little James not Robert yet Robert had the childhood that some of you think should excuse these crimes.

Jon didn’t have the same upbringing as Robert but is still committing crimes and being found with disturbing and sickening images of children and being released! Like make that make sense???????

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:35

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 09:56

Come on now, there are loads of people in the world who have been through this doesn’t mean you go on to torture and murder others. You know right from wrong.

What is your evidence from that? Seriously, what opportunity did Christa really have to learn right from wrong when her entire experience was people getting away with horrific wrongs committed against her?