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To stop my mum seeing my DS after what she said to him?

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MangoMusique · 27/09/2026 15:09

NC because this is quite identifying. I’ve got ds who is 8 and dd who is 5, and my mum is their grandma. She has always been very involved with them and normally has them every other Saturday, sometimes picks them up from school and takes them out. They absolutely adore her and until now I’ve always thought of her as a really good grandma, even though she can be blunt sometimes. I’ve stopped her seeing them for now because of something she said directly to ds and I’m not sure if I’ve overreacted.

ds is 8, in year 4, loves football and gaming and is a quiet sensitive child. He’s doing fine at school really, not especially academic. He is bigger than some boys in his class and has put on a bit of weight recently, but he isn’t obese and isn’t under any weight management or medical care. I don’t want this to become a discussion about whether he technically needs to lose weight because that isn’t what I’m upset about. Me and dh encourage him to be active and we eat normal meals, with treats as well. He’s just an eight year old.

My mum is 62 and retired, lives about 20 minutes away and has always been there for me and us. She buys them little things, takes them swimming, to the park, shopping, whatever they fancy, they look forward to her weekends. She has helped me out a lot and the kids see her as important too. My dad died a few years ago and my brother lives abroad so there isn’t another grandparent nearby who could fill the gap. I’ve defended her before by saying she’s their grandma and she’s always been there, and tbh she genuinely has been loving and involved with them.

The problem is she has got increasingly interested in ds’s weight. She’s asked him why he always wants seconds, told him he needs to watch the biscuits and commented that his school trousers looked tight. She’s also compared him to slimmer cousins and asked me if he gets enough exercise. I have spoken to her privately and said please don’t talk about his weight in front of him. She says she’s only concerned because children don’t know when to stop, but she carries on making comments. Dh has noticed too but normally just says that’s your mum and doesn’t want a huge argument.

Last week ds came into the kitchen wearing his school jumper. He’d been asking me about getting a new football shirt because his old one was tight. Mum looked at him and said, “you don’t want to get any bigger, do you? You’ll end up like your dad.” He just laughed awkwardly and I didn’t make a thing of it. Later that same evening he quietly asked me if he was fat. I honestly felt sick because he hadn’t used that word about himself before. I asked him why and he said grandma had told him boys get fat if they eat too much rubbish and need to be careful.

I rang mum and asked what she thought she was doing. She said ds had misunderstood her, then said she was only trying to help him. She said I was being too sensitive and that if nobody tells children anything they’ll become unhealthy. I said there’s a difference between teaching healthy habits and making an eight year old think about whether his body is too big. She said I let him eat whatever he wants, which I disagree with that. We do have biscuits and sweets in the house, but he eats meals and he’s active. Mum said she was giving sensible advice.

It also isn’t just this one conversation, so I’m struggling to see it as harmless. There have been the comments about seconds, biscuits, his trousers and exercise, and she has said things like he eats like a grown man. I’ve told her before that I don’t want her discussing his weight with him and she had agreed, so she knew. Since last week ds has asked me if he should have dessert and asked whether his new football shirt I want to buy will make him look bigger. Maybe those are coincidence, but it feels like something he wasn’t worrying about before has got into his head.

I told mum she isn’t going to be seeing either child for now. She said I was being cruel and using the children to punish her, and she has told relatives that I’m keeping her grandchildren away over one harmless comment. I said it isn’t one harmless comment, it’s the final one after months of smaller comments that I had already asked her to stop making. I know that sounds dramatic because she hasn’t been a bad grandma in every other respect. She has actually been a very good one. But I’m angry, and I don’t trust myself to just carry on as normal.

Dh thinks mum was wrong but doesn’t think I should have stopped contact at this point. He thinks I should tell her she can see them again if she apologises to ds properly to ds and agrees she won’t talk about weight with him. Not sure. dd keeps asking when she can go to Grandma’s and I feel awful because she hasn’t done anything. The really awkward thing for me is ds himself says he still wants to see grandma. He loves her and still talks about going there. I haven’t made him choose sides at all. There really isn’t another nearby grandparent for them.

I don’t know if I’m protecting ds or letting my anger make this bigger than it needs to be. I don’t want him growing up worrying about his weight, especially at eight, and I had made the boundary clear. At the same time I don’t want to take away a relationship with a grandmother he loves because she said something badly, not deliberately. The children adore her. Maybe tbh I am being too sensitive. AIBU to stop my mum seeing both children after what she said to ds, even though she has always been a good grandma otherwise?

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Bikenutz · 28/09/2026 07:39

FlamingoQueen · 28/09/2026 07:16

Some kids put on weight before growth spurts anyway, so as long as you think he’s ok, then he’s ok.
I would explain to your Mum about keeping her opinions to herself, that you’ll give her a week to think about what’s she’s doing, then let her see them. They obviously adore her!

I agree with this. My children often looked chunkier before putting on a growth spurt.

Your mum should be speaking to you about any genuine concerns she has, not directly to the children, and she certainly shouldn’t be discussing this with others.

My son at that age played basketball and used to eat loads of bananas. Still quite sugary but the fibre helps them feel fuller and is a slower energy release, especially for playing sports like football. It may be worth ditching the routine sweet and biscuit stash if this has surfaced any genuine worries on your part about his weight.

Tryamp · 28/09/2026 07:40

Noddyslittleredcar · 27/09/2026 22:13

It doesn't matter at all how big the child is. You should never discuss weight with an 8yo.

If she'd expressed concern, in private, to the mum that would be one thing. But not directly to the child. That's eating disorder territory.

Dreadful OP, I'd act as you have.

I agree. I think all these posts that are talking about whether or not DS is overweight are missing the point. Saying the things DM has said to a child is unacceptable. Full stop. And the fact that OP has asked her repeatedly to stop is the issue - it doesn’t matter if she ‘means well’!

These are the sorts of comments that stick with a child. I still remember the exact line my mum said to me that started me on a journey of disordered eating throughout my life. DM needs to keep her mouth shut - and if she refuses to do that, despite being asked, then I don’t know how OP can continue to facilitate the relationship.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/09/2026 07:41

Missey85 · 28/09/2026 06:38

So she said something that you don't want to hear? Sometimes the truth hurts

It's not that OP didn't want to hear. It's that her mum said it to her grandchild in front of everyone. If she had spoken to OP about it, rather than fat shaming her grandson, she would still be welcome in OP's home.

likelysuspect · 28/09/2026 07:45

Noddyslittleredcar · 27/09/2026 22:13

It doesn't matter at all how big the child is. You should never discuss weight with an 8yo.

If she'd expressed concern, in private, to the mum that would be one thing. But not directly to the child. That's eating disorder territory.

Dreadful OP, I'd act as you have.

We discuss all sorts of health matters with 8 year olds and also quite difficult things like how to deal with inappropriate touching, what is considered a private part of your body, why you'll smell if you dont wash, why you must brush your teeth and what happens if you dont etc etc.

Weight should not be off the table, done the right way and matter of fact. This is a health matter.

Tryamp · 28/09/2026 07:48

likelysuspect · 28/09/2026 07:45

We discuss all sorts of health matters with 8 year olds and also quite difficult things like how to deal with inappropriate touching, what is considered a private part of your body, why you'll smell if you dont wash, why you must brush your teeth and what happens if you dont etc etc.

Weight should not be off the table, done the right way and matter of fact. This is a health matter.

This wasn’t done the right way.

And ‘we’ don’t discuss things with other people’s children child when ‘we’ have been asked not to.

Mamma18282 · 28/09/2026 07:48

She voiced it to a child though, had him questioning and feeling anxious if he was fat. She’s done way more damage than if she had spoken to the mum directly.

likelysuspect · 28/09/2026 08:03

Tryamp · 28/09/2026 07:48

This wasn’t done the right way.

And ‘we’ don’t discuss things with other people’s children child when ‘we’ have been asked not to.

I didnt comment on whether the example in the OP was done the right way or wrong way, Im simply responding to the blanket posts on here saying weight must NEVER be discussed with an 8 year old. That is plainly incorrect

Timeforachange26 · 28/09/2026 09:28

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 27/09/2026 23:43

So are we saying South Asian culture - which very very much relies on Shame as a method of weight control and coincidentally has low obesity levels - is a nasty hateful one?

Obviously gives people in here " hurty feelings"

Timeforachange26 · 28/09/2026 09:29

GarlicSomething · 28/09/2026 06:10

Parents who restrict their children's food intake during the pre/early teen growth phase risk limiting their eventual height and other developmental outcomes.

In Victorian England, the well-off classes literally looked down on the working class: they were 6" taller on average. Why do you think this was?!

That's because they weren't getting " enough" to eat. Not because they weren't allowed to stuff themselves

Noddyslittleredcar · 28/09/2026 09:38

Missey85 · 28/09/2026 06:38

So she said something that you don't want to hear? Sometimes the truth hurts

That's not the issue. It's the fact that she said it TO THE CHILD.

Teenybeen · 28/09/2026 09:47

YANBU and I don’t agree you can’t comment without seeing DS.

At the age of 8 he doesn’t cook his own dinners or do the food shop. You’re the one who should be allowing or disallowing seconds, snacks biscuits etc. When a child that age is over weight it’s the fault of the parents so she should be coming to you with her concerns and not making comments to your DS.

She’s currently not to be trusted imo.

SixtySomething · 28/09/2026 09:51

Beenwhereyouareagain · 28/09/2026 01:58

I'm also sixty-something. Your viewpoint sounds like someone who was a parent in the fifties when you were just a child yourself in the sixties. I hope no one treated you this poorly although it was common when we were kids.

I'm sorry that you are unable to see how damaging that woman's behavior is to her grandson and to her daughter. Respect can be automatically given, but it should also be taken away when someone behaves so badly. And his grandmother, for all her good points, has behaved horribly to them. All the wonderful, loving things she has done do not negate the harm from this last few months.

Respect is not a tradition to be upheld, earned or not. It is a privilege that should be taken away if the person no longer deserves it.

Your post comes out of your own head.
It doesn’t relate to anything I’m saying.
My PoV is that some posters, presumably the young ( of heart) speak about older women as if they were naughty children , in need of ‘discipline.’ Using that word makes me cringe, it’s so inappropriate.
This has not whatsoever to do with ‘unearned respect.’
It’s about infantilising a mature woman of working age and advocating for her punishment, and being made to issue a supervised, formal apology, with further punishment for future disobedience.
Creepy or what?

LoafofSellotape · 28/09/2026 09:59

Passaggressfedup · 27/09/2026 15:24

You'll douch more damage to your son emotionally by stopping contact with someone he loves than by hearing from her that he is overweight.

Just explain to him that your mum's generation were more concerned about weight and being skinny and that's why she says things. Remind your mum again to watch what she says. End of. No need for big drama.

This x 100.

Kirschcherries · 28/09/2026 10:17

Jjjr · 27/09/2026 20:09

So if someone's overweight we shouldn't say anything because "mental health"?

@MangoMusique It depends, a parent to a child, a medical professional to an adult, a partner if approached in the right way = acceptable.

To any child or adult, including a stranger in the street- yes that happens, Fuck Off it’s none of your business and is more likely to be counter productive.

TrixieFatell · 28/09/2026 10:20

pinkyredrose · 27/09/2026 18:02

Cut her some slack, she's just worried about his health. Why won't you post his measurements, it's hardly outing!

You do seem slightly in denial though. Btw football twice a wk doesn't mean he's that active, many kids spend most of the match walking or standing still! Is it school football or extra curricular?

Cut her some slack? She's fat shaming an 8 year old to his face. What does she expect the kid to do, stop eating? Become restrictive or secretive about his intake? Or just make him feel crap about himself.

No-one is saying she shouldn't voice her concerns but she does that to his parents. Not to him. They are the ones that can help him, not leave it with him where he doesn't know how to address any concerns. I can't believe people think that this is ok. I had comments about my weight when I was a child (the other way, I was a very slim child) and it didn't help me at all. It made me have a crap relationship with food and set me up for a lifetime of bad habits.

She is damaging her grandson with her comments. If she can't be adult enough to control her impulses to say these things then she isn't suitable to be around a child.

EvieBB · 28/09/2026 10:23

Sillyoldgit62 · 28/09/2026 07:02

This is why so many children are fat,my daughter told me off for telling my grandson he should stop eating rubbish when he was 7/8 years old.Now at 15 I can out run him and I’m fitter by far than him,I’m 64 smoked since I was 11 and not really eaten well.He can’t run up the stairs without being out of breath and will probably be very ill by 40.He’s about 16st ! All because she didn’t want to hurt his feelings.Now he complains that he can’t play football like his friends and can’t get a girlfriend,so he just plays computer games and eats more and more because he’s depressed about he is FAT ! Tell Them !

Please promise me you will never ever become a counsellor!! The lack of empathy and insight is astounding!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 28/09/2026 10:34

She has crossed the line too many times, others might be milder and overlooked.

I would be pissed off with her. We already leave in a world where we think we are far from perfect with the high standards we see online.

My DS is much bigger than his peers in height and weight, he’s off the scale for his age, noted as 99+ from birth. His Dad is 6’2 broad shoulders. DS gets down about it. I have explained that some Dads are big, listing the taller dads at football, others are smaller, you’ll all be adults soon.

Tell her never to feel so comfortable again or she’ll be out on her arse on the pavement.

People assume that they are big because they overate as children without control. In my experience those people were hungrier children anyway and would have felt starving, they’d have stole food, got it from neighbours. My child is never full. I refuse him food a lot, distract him, but he still eats more than his petite size 8 older sister.
My other child eats when hungry, she was always tiny.

i believe it is hormones or genetics.

its2346 · 28/09/2026 10:35

I’ve read about 2/3 of the thread.

OP - it’s not appropriate for your mum to discuss your DS’s weight with him. He’s 8. He doesn’t have control over the food he is presented with nor reached an age where he can understand the ramifications of being overweight. It’s making him responsible for two things beyond his control: his diet, and how his body processes calories. She should be talking to you.

But you are equally at fault here because, by having unhealthy ‘snacks’ (when did a treat become a snack?) you are also making an 8 year old responsible for making the right choices about diet and how his body processes calories.

This is where it gets tricky. I have also reached the conclusion that your DM might have reason for her concern, for the following reasons. You describe her as a present and loving grandmother and your children love her. But she didn’t stop making comments - she moved on from commenting to you to commenting to your son.

Being consistent with who you say she is, the comments might be BECAUSE she’s a present and loving concerned grandmother, albeit tactless and clumsy. She’s 62, so not in the ‘generation’ where fat-shaming comments are normal. But she did it anyway. I think she is worried and probably has reason to be.

You describe your DH as having a “bigger build” but your mum obviously sees him to be overweight enough that he is a clear negative example to hold up to your DS. You describe your son as getting ‘chubby’ - which is an acknowledgement of excess weight but also deny weight is an issue. You’ve twice used minimising language when talking about weight. Your mum sees that ‘chubbiness’ as a cause for concern.

You freely admit having biscuits and crisps available as snacks and you think that is typical of a ‘normal family’. Regular pudding, biscuits, crisps are not normal ‘snacks’ in families that prioritise healthy attitudes to food. They are, however, occasional treats. I love baking, baking is normal, but I don’t do it or my children will eat volumes of baking.

So I think your mum is trying to get through to you.

By denying her access to the children you’ve now magnified the ‘fat’ issue to them. I don’t quite know how you healthily walk that back, especially if there really is an issue. You need to do what’s right for your son’s physical AND mental health, and you also need to be fair to your mum, and honestly accountable if you have played a part in letting an unhealthy issue develop.

notanothernamesurely · 28/09/2026 12:35

He ‘isn’t hugely overweight’ he ‘isn’t massively big’ So he is overweight and it’s reasonable that your mum is concerned.

HOWEVER - she needs to discuss this with you and not him. You all need to be careful to teach good habits and healthy eating to avoid him remaining overweight or getting an eating disorder.

Topjoe19 · 28/09/2026 12:48

Awful to say those things to him, I wouldn't be happy either.

But I think it's ok to have an open conversation with you as his parent and ask what you think and if you're worried.

Weight is such a tricky issue, kids change size as they grow all the time - as long as they eat well, limited unhealthy food and plenty of exercise, that is the main thing.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 28/09/2026 13:03

My dd developed an ED so I’m coming at it from a different angle, comments like your mum is making are harmful and I’m not surprised you’re upset op.

I think it’s fine to have a boundary in place however I’d probably give her one more chance, if she says anything negative about your ds’s weight the consequence is very limited contact.

JontyGentooey · 28/09/2026 13:05

OP in my experience some people of that generation adopt a sort of "they need to hear it" mentality. They think they're helping/being responsible. It's incomprehensible to them that they are interfering and being rude along with it.

I'd come down very very hard on my mum if she made a remark like that to one of my kids. If it was genuine concern about your DS being quite badly overweight then she should bring it up to you when DS is well out of earshot.

CousinBette · 28/09/2026 13:09

EmeraldShamrock000 · 28/09/2026 10:34

She has crossed the line too many times, others might be milder and overlooked.

I would be pissed off with her. We already leave in a world where we think we are far from perfect with the high standards we see online.

My DS is much bigger than his peers in height and weight, he’s off the scale for his age, noted as 99+ from birth. His Dad is 6’2 broad shoulders. DS gets down about it. I have explained that some Dads are big, listing the taller dads at football, others are smaller, you’ll all be adults soon.

Tell her never to feel so comfortable again or she’ll be out on her arse on the pavement.

People assume that they are big because they overate as children without control. In my experience those people were hungrier children anyway and would have felt starving, they’d have stole food, got it from neighbours. My child is never full. I refuse him food a lot, distract him, but he still eats more than his petite size 8 older sister.
My other child eats when hungry, she was always tiny.

i believe it is hormones or genetics.

Edited

It’s not just ‘hormones or genetics’. It’s the availability of cheap processed food and unnecessarily large portions. How else do you explain the significant recent rise in childhood obesity? And the rise in type 2 diabetes in young people? Loads of kids are fat - properly fat. It’s going to cause all kinds of health issues later on for them.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 28/09/2026 13:25

@its2346 thoughtful post but I think you may have missed the part where the OP says grandma comments on a lot of people's weight - strangers', friends', people on TV. this makes it a problem of her perception which she's passing on to the 8yo's. Plus the manipulativeness of claiming "she made one comment and now she cant see the grandchildren". Its just not true.

She's clearly generally a super grandma. But these two issues do need to change.

ThatHappyBlueCritic · 28/09/2026 13:34

Making a child feel bad about their appearance is awful and I would expect my mum to apologise and agree to discuss body positivity rather than negativity.

More protein in meals is a good way to decrease snacking and build leaner bodies and I think children need more food when they are getting ready for a growth spurt and they chub up a bit before too not always in the same place my girls get chubby cheeks my nephews got chubby bellies and then they grew again!

I would suggest you and your mum agree that strong bodies is what you are aiming for so to add maybe cheese or some other protein rich snack to a packet of crisps. Maybe an apple before the biscuit. Sugary drinks cut out completely if they are in the diet and make only special occasion. Blame the dentist! And make sure they are drinking enough water. I also give milk with biscuit as a snack as helps with calcium and fills them up. Your mum can encourage a healthy snack before the treat that’s what I ask mine to do. And ask her to try and build their confidence not tear it down. Fine to encourage healthy eating but not because they are getting fat but because they want a strong healthy body.