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To stop my mum seeing my DS after what she said to him?

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MangoMusique · 27/09/2026 15:09

NC because this is quite identifying. I’ve got ds who is 8 and dd who is 5, and my mum is their grandma. She has always been very involved with them and normally has them every other Saturday, sometimes picks them up from school and takes them out. They absolutely adore her and until now I’ve always thought of her as a really good grandma, even though she can be blunt sometimes. I’ve stopped her seeing them for now because of something she said directly to ds and I’m not sure if I’ve overreacted.

ds is 8, in year 4, loves football and gaming and is a quiet sensitive child. He’s doing fine at school really, not especially academic. He is bigger than some boys in his class and has put on a bit of weight recently, but he isn’t obese and isn’t under any weight management or medical care. I don’t want this to become a discussion about whether he technically needs to lose weight because that isn’t what I’m upset about. Me and dh encourage him to be active and we eat normal meals, with treats as well. He’s just an eight year old.

My mum is 62 and retired, lives about 20 minutes away and has always been there for me and us. She buys them little things, takes them swimming, to the park, shopping, whatever they fancy, they look forward to her weekends. She has helped me out a lot and the kids see her as important too. My dad died a few years ago and my brother lives abroad so there isn’t another grandparent nearby who could fill the gap. I’ve defended her before by saying she’s their grandma and she’s always been there, and tbh she genuinely has been loving and involved with them.

The problem is she has got increasingly interested in ds’s weight. She’s asked him why he always wants seconds, told him he needs to watch the biscuits and commented that his school trousers looked tight. She’s also compared him to slimmer cousins and asked me if he gets enough exercise. I have spoken to her privately and said please don’t talk about his weight in front of him. She says she’s only concerned because children don’t know when to stop, but she carries on making comments. Dh has noticed too but normally just says that’s your mum and doesn’t want a huge argument.

Last week ds came into the kitchen wearing his school jumper. He’d been asking me about getting a new football shirt because his old one was tight. Mum looked at him and said, “you don’t want to get any bigger, do you? You’ll end up like your dad.” He just laughed awkwardly and I didn’t make a thing of it. Later that same evening he quietly asked me if he was fat. I honestly felt sick because he hadn’t used that word about himself before. I asked him why and he said grandma had told him boys get fat if they eat too much rubbish and need to be careful.

I rang mum and asked what she thought she was doing. She said ds had misunderstood her, then said she was only trying to help him. She said I was being too sensitive and that if nobody tells children anything they’ll become unhealthy. I said there’s a difference between teaching healthy habits and making an eight year old think about whether his body is too big. She said I let him eat whatever he wants, which I disagree with that. We do have biscuits and sweets in the house, but he eats meals and he’s active. Mum said she was giving sensible advice.

It also isn’t just this one conversation, so I’m struggling to see it as harmless. There have been the comments about seconds, biscuits, his trousers and exercise, and she has said things like he eats like a grown man. I’ve told her before that I don’t want her discussing his weight with him and she had agreed, so she knew. Since last week ds has asked me if he should have dessert and asked whether his new football shirt I want to buy will make him look bigger. Maybe those are coincidence, but it feels like something he wasn’t worrying about before has got into his head.

I told mum she isn’t going to be seeing either child for now. She said I was being cruel and using the children to punish her, and she has told relatives that I’m keeping her grandchildren away over one harmless comment. I said it isn’t one harmless comment, it’s the final one after months of smaller comments that I had already asked her to stop making. I know that sounds dramatic because she hasn’t been a bad grandma in every other respect. She has actually been a very good one. But I’m angry, and I don’t trust myself to just carry on as normal.

Dh thinks mum was wrong but doesn’t think I should have stopped contact at this point. He thinks I should tell her she can see them again if she apologises to ds properly to ds and agrees she won’t talk about weight with him. Not sure. dd keeps asking when she can go to Grandma’s and I feel awful because she hasn’t done anything. The really awkward thing for me is ds himself says he still wants to see grandma. He loves her and still talks about going there. I haven’t made him choose sides at all. There really isn’t another nearby grandparent for them.

I don’t know if I’m protecting ds or letting my anger make this bigger than it needs to be. I don’t want him growing up worrying about his weight, especially at eight, and I had made the boundary clear. At the same time I don’t want to take away a relationship with a grandmother he loves because she said something badly, not deliberately. The children adore her. Maybe tbh I am being too sensitive. AIBU to stop my mum seeing both children after what she said to ds, even though she has always been a good grandma otherwise?

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CleverlyBeery · 27/09/2026 21:06

grindergirl · 27/09/2026 20:30

There was nothing careful and sensitive about the nasty lads in junior school who called me Fatty Chinese Four-Eyes. (Along with being fat, I wore specs and had Slavic features). Most posters seem to forget that you cannot protect a fat child from the outside world. Better to deal with the actual issue (the fatness of child) than blaming grandma for some home truths

Better to deal with the actual issue (the fatness of child) than blaming grandma for some home truths

Why do you think these are the only two, mutually exclusive choices?

Can you not think of any other way to deal with obesity other than name-calling?

Bababear987 · 27/09/2026 21:06

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SandyHappyPerson · 27/09/2026 21:07

YourLoftyCyanZebra · 27/09/2026 20:58

Better? How? Is being fat the worse thing a child can be?

Is being fat the worse thing a child can be?

No, but it can be a life sentence for some of them.

nomoremsniceperson · 27/09/2026 21:07

MangoMusique · 27/09/2026 20:42

I had already said in the OP that he’s put weight on and that I’m aware of it. I’m not denying that and I’m not saying his weight is completely irrelevant. Obviously I’m his mum and if I think things need changing then I need to do that.

But I didn’t start the thread asking for advice on how to put an 8 year old on a diet or asking people to decide whether he’s obese. I was asking about my mum repeatedly making comments to him about his size after I had specifically asked her not to.

I can accept that his weight is part of the context without it suddenly becoming the whole thread. If people want to tell me I need to change his diet then fine, I’ve heard it now, several times over. when she knows I’ve asked her not to.

And maybe if he was a completely different size the comment would be viewed differently, I don’t know. But he is my child and I’m the one responsible for dealing with his health, not grandma making him conscious of his body every time he eats a biscuit.

OP, do yourself a favour and leave the thread alone now. MN is always full of people talking out of their arses. My son was on the same percentile as yours for years, he never looked fat at all, he wasn't skinny, but was mainly muscle. You know what you're doing. Treats in the house are fine. He's active, he eats fruit and veg. You know your life better than random posters on MN. Most people on here agree anyway that your DM is out of order and you're right to set a boundary. Some people just like to goad the OP into a breakdown. Look up Ellyn Satter if you're worried about his weight. Stick to your guns with your mum. Wishing you and your boy the best - now go and do something relaxing with your Sunday evening that isn't the Sisyphean task of trying to convince randos on the internet who don't want to be convinced.

Minasama · 27/09/2026 21:07

nomoremsniceperson · 27/09/2026 20:46

What you suggest here is the opposite of how to avoid kids getting fat. I know your comment is well-intentioned but the work of nutrition expert Ellyn Satter shows that limiting seconds (of savoury healthy meals) and limiting treats until the weekend makes kids more likely to overeat and have a poor relationship with food in the long run.

When my DD was 4 her daycare said she was chubby and we should try to do something about it. I limited helpings at dinner and banned sweets. Her weight ballooned - she ended up eating more in the daycare and bingeing whenever she was at a party or a friend's house.

I bought the Ellyn Satter book (recommended here on MN). She got a small treat for dessert every day and unlimited helpings at meals, which were healthy, but if she wanted 3 plates of pasta and no veg it was allowed. The first 2 weeks she overate, then as she realised there was no need to because she was allowed to take what she needed, she calmed down. She's 11 now and very slim. She loves healthy food but also likes treats. She associates food with pleasure, not guilt. I'm so, so glad I didn't limit her and instead let her learn to regulate herself. Children need to learn to listen to what their own bodies need because once they're out of the house and mum isn't there to make all of the decisions, a child who is denied food is going to overeat.

I was brought up completely differently, with small portions of healthy food served by my mum, no seconds and treats at weekends.

I’ve always been slim, as has my sister and I am often amazed at how much other people eat. I think setting good habits young is paramount. If you’re used to
lunch being a sandwich and an apple and no snacks between meals, that seems normal to you and that is how you eat.

TheHateIsNotGood · 27/09/2026 21:09

@CleverlyBeery I suppose we could use flash cards, a new-fangled app or some sort of semaphore that encompasses a multitude of understandings.

Fat is fat and if I was fat I'd rather hear it from someone who loved me and wished the best for me. Just as I have and do for the myriad of failings I have or have had in my own life.

None of us are perfect.

LemonSherbertsss · 27/09/2026 21:15

My mother has the same obsession with weight and inability not to verbalise her opinions. I truly think it’s a generational thing. I don’t think you should stop her seeing the grandkids but I would have a frank conversation with your son about the time she was brought up. Maybe show some of those instagram reels where they’re fat shaming Kate Winslet, Jessica Simpson etc and show him how much people have moved on but the older generations haven’t been able to shake off their obsession with weight. Hopefully your son will realise it’s more about your mum’s obsession than it is about him.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 27/09/2026 21:16

Ok I was wrong, he is overweight, but you said this is a recent thing @MangoMusique
I cant see that this is anything to worry about unless he stays overweight long term.

The rest of my post stands.

I dont think there's any need to ask your mum to apologise to him though. If anything the apology is owed to you, but you won't get one. If uou can just go on from here and she drops the weight stuff, that's enough. There's being sensible about weight (without making it a super sensitive subject) and there's risking giving a child a complex, and you're right to be concerned about that.

AliceMcK · 27/09/2026 21:19

FFS op made it clear she didn’t want to discus her DSs weight, she wanted advice on her mother crossing boundaries and stopping her mother from seeing her children.

YANBU @MangoMusique If your mother has concerns on her grandchild’s weight then she speaks to you and or your DH not shame the child. You have asked her to stop and she hasn’t so she now deals with the consequences of not seeing her grandchildren until she can understand what she’s doing is wrong.

Nosleepforthismum · 27/09/2026 21:27

nomoremsniceperson · 27/09/2026 20:46

What you suggest here is the opposite of how to avoid kids getting fat. I know your comment is well-intentioned but the work of nutrition expert Ellyn Satter shows that limiting seconds (of savoury healthy meals) and limiting treats until the weekend makes kids more likely to overeat and have a poor relationship with food in the long run.

When my DD was 4 her daycare said she was chubby and we should try to do something about it. I limited helpings at dinner and banned sweets. Her weight ballooned - she ended up eating more in the daycare and bingeing whenever she was at a party or a friend's house.

I bought the Ellyn Satter book (recommended here on MN). She got a small treat for dessert every day and unlimited helpings at meals, which were healthy, but if she wanted 3 plates of pasta and no veg it was allowed. The first 2 weeks she overate, then as she realised there was no need to because she was allowed to take what she needed, she calmed down. She's 11 now and very slim. She loves healthy food but also likes treats. She associates food with pleasure, not guilt. I'm so, so glad I didn't limit her and instead let her learn to regulate herself. Children need to learn to listen to what their own bodies need because once they're out of the house and mum isn't there to make all of the decisions, a child who is denied food is going to overeat.

It’s really interesting to hear this perspective so thank you. Your child is much older and it’s good to hear how this has panned out for you down the line. I did attempt a similar approach when DS was 4 with a small treat after dinner every day and nothing was labelled as bad or good. However, having a treat every day ended up with demands for more immediately afterwards and also at different times, like after breakfast too and if he wanted a snack, the “treat” food would be demanded again. I didn’t give in to those demands but it was extremely wearing and he never seemed to get that regulation you’ve said your daughter achieved.

The best way (so far) that I’ve achieved is to just have fruit and no puddings on weekdays (he gets pudding at school though) with weekends being far more relaxed. However, the biggest difference is that he will now help himself to the fruit bowl at weekends if he gets hungry without being prompted and is no longer constantly pestering me for icecream and snacks. So for now, it seems to be working but I have taken your comments on board and will keep an eye on things as he gets older.

Amsylou · 27/09/2026 21:32

My grandma told me I was fat at the age of 13. I was a perfectly healthy 13 year old girl…. And guess what, I stopped eating and became under weight. It all stemmed from my grandma and even now I have issues. She really really has crossed a line and honestly I would tell her that she is doing untold damage with this. I think she needs to realise the consequences of her actions and to take responsibility here. Sounds like she still is not if she is blaming you.

LowlandLucky · 27/09/2026 21:32

So you are hurting your children to get back at you mum/ She is worried about your childs health, he is overweight , that is a strain on his heart. She isn't calling him names but is trying to stop him getting fatter. She is being clumsy about it. But maybe you need to see that it is only coming from a place of love. Maybe your son does need to be encouraged to eat better. Don't punish your children to spite you mother.

SixtySomething · 27/09/2026 21:39

FFS we are taking about a mature women of 62 here not a child who needs to be taught a lesson. Please use age appropriate language, @AliceMcK.
This is so messed up.
Op's DM has a different perspective from Op.
Perhaps she has tried everything to get through to Op. Perhaps it is OP who cannot "understand what she’s doing is wrong".
We can't tell.
We don't know how overweight DS is.

The older generation are not always wrong.
Mothers are not always right as witnessed by the number of posts about people's shitty childhoods and controlling , 'narcissistic' mothers. I'm not saying that Op is like this by any means. But we can't assume that it's essential for mothers to set the rules and expect them to be obeyed implicitly.

Grandparents are an important balance for what happens within the family
They are not to be lectured and punished like naughty children if they have a different perspective from the parents. They may well be right. They have more experience of life and this should not be forgotten

SixtySomething · 27/09/2026 21:39

LowlandLucky · 27/09/2026 21:32

So you are hurting your children to get back at you mum/ She is worried about your childs health, he is overweight , that is a strain on his heart. She isn't calling him names but is trying to stop him getting fatter. She is being clumsy about it. But maybe you need to see that it is only coming from a place of love. Maybe your son does need to be encouraged to eat better. Don't punish your children to spite you mother.

Exactly.

Tryamp · 27/09/2026 21:42

Jjjr · 27/09/2026 21:04

So if they are on the track to obesity, health issues and diabetes better just to not say anything because it might upset them?

Yes, very good. Glad you’re learning something.

General rule of thumb: unless someone asks you directly for your opinion it’s exactly none of your business to share your thoughts. And you certainly shouldn’t be saying anything like this to a child.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/09/2026 21:42

Your mum was wrong to say that to DS

but you do seem in denial. Dh is a bigger build. A little overweight / isn’t massively overweight

so he’s not as slim as could be and neither is your son by the sound of it

the F word isn’t nice for kids but sounds like he is def overweight if not heading towards fat

he’s bigger then the other kids etc

kids are also blunt /truthful and maybe have mentioned it to ds

ws have had a couple of larger kids in dd class (yr 5) but been large since they’ve started school and have gained weight each year

they can’t run as fast. Can’t wear the fashion , can’t climb a climbing frame and pull self up - and thr other kids can’t pull them up either

yes you don’t want your child to feel conscious but equally don’t let them be the larger child - so portion control / healthier snacks - more exercise - not eating biscuits and snacks etc

not many kids I know have seconds and desert each meal

your mum meant well and maybe sees what you and dh can’t

wellington77 · 27/09/2026 21:46

Do you think some of your reaction could be a bit of guilt or embarrassment over your son’s weight? I totally agree your mum should not have spoken to your son like that at all- it could trigger an eating disorder. I would say though I wouldn’t ban her from seeing your children but you need to lay down some strict ground rules and make it clear if she breaks them then that is it. As a side note- if he is a little over weight - I would stop the desserts. My children never have dessert as a normal thing each day . It’s their main meal and that’s it. Something to think on

BruFord · 27/09/2026 21:46

I agree that you need to speak to your Mum again about not mentioning weight to your DS. You're the parent and if she truly has concerns, you're the person she should express them to.

Aside from her crass comments about his weight, however, it sounds as if they have a lovely relationship and I wouldn't stop your children from seeing their Grandma. You never know what's around the corner - My Mum died unexpectedly in her 60's, for example, and you don't want to deny your children an otherwise positive relationship.

She just needs to shut up about his weight.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 27/09/2026 21:49

Has everyone missed that the mother has a general issue with weight and is commenting on people she knows and on the TV?

It's not only the direct comments to the son (which the daughter will also be hearing). It's the indirect over focus on everyone's weight.

AliceMcK · 27/09/2026 21:53

SixtySomething · 27/09/2026 21:39

FFS we are taking about a mature women of 62 here not a child who needs to be taught a lesson. Please use age appropriate language, @AliceMcK.
This is so messed up.
Op's DM has a different perspective from Op.
Perhaps she has tried everything to get through to Op. Perhaps it is OP who cannot "understand what she’s doing is wrong".
We can't tell.
We don't know how overweight DS is.

The older generation are not always wrong.
Mothers are not always right as witnessed by the number of posts about people's shitty childhoods and controlling , 'narcissistic' mothers. I'm not saying that Op is like this by any means. But we can't assume that it's essential for mothers to set the rules and expect them to be obeyed implicitly.

Grandparents are an important balance for what happens within the family
They are not to be lectured and punished like naughty children if they have a different perspective from the parents. They may well be right. They have more experience of life and this should not be forgotten

Of course she needs to be taught a lesson, whether she agrees with how her daughter raises her children of not she dose not have the right to upset and put down any child’s body regardless of her relationship with them. A 62yo woman should know better than to body shame a child’s body, if she dosnt then she is 1 not fit to take care of the child and 2 doesn’t deserve a relationship with that child.

Grandparents do not have any rights to access their grandchildren and if they are not going to respect the parents wishes then they loose access.

Body shaming children leads to body disorders. And not all grandparents are an important part of a family life.

if grandparents can’t follow rules, need to be told not to body shame children then they absolutely need to be lectured and treat like naughty children.

ItsPickleRick · 27/09/2026 21:57

I think your mums comments are unreasonable, but that YABU stopping contact with her. That’s likely to hurt your children so seems counterproductive.

I do also think you need to be honest with yourself, not us, about your son’s weight. His breakfast is carb heavy and if he’s having school dinners and a hot dinner with you every night that’s two dinners a day, before you even count seconds, or crisps and biscuits. He doesn’t need three meals a day plus treats if he is gaining weight.

I know you’re defensive and I understand why, but if you don’t nip this in the bud now and he continues to gain weight he’ll have a really miserable time at secondary school. Kids can be cruel.

Franjipanl8r · 27/09/2026 21:59

We don’t even allow people to say “fat”
in our house, it’s all about being healthy and strong and sporty. We don’t keep biscuits or treats in the house, only buy them at weekends, so the kids can have as many seconds as they want (as the food is healthy).

Obviously your mum is wrong and you were absolutely spot on calling her out on it. But if you don’t actually look at his diet as a result of all of this, then that’s on you I’m afraid.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 27/09/2026 22:04

You are being very cruel to your mother and to your children by spoiling their relationship. You admit it was good and yet you have possibly done irreparable harm by overreacting to your mother's concern. Whatever you think, and however inappropriate the remarks, she has not said them to be unkind to your son, or to get at you. From your defensiveness in your subsequent replies, it is clear that there is a problem that needs addressing before your son becomes one of the thousands of youngsters every year who leave primary school already obese.
Instead of quarreling with her you need to join forces with her to help your child learn about healthy eating. Talk to her about any necessary changes to your son's diet. Get her on side. See if between you you can come up with a few helpful and yet not hurtful phrases that you can both use to get the message across.
We are always hearing that it takes a village to raise a child and yet MNetters are very quick to cut themselves off from the very support network that they need.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 27/09/2026 22:09

Amsylou · 27/09/2026 21:32

My grandma told me I was fat at the age of 13. I was a perfectly healthy 13 year old girl…. And guess what, I stopped eating and became under weight. It all stemmed from my grandma and even now I have issues. She really really has crossed a line and honestly I would tell her that she is doing untold damage with this. I think she needs to realise the consequences of her actions and to take responsibility here. Sounds like she still is not if she is blaming you.

I think the OP will do far more damage to the child if she doesn't take this as a wake-up call.

Noddyslittleredcar · 27/09/2026 22:13

PepsiBook · 27/09/2026 15:22

I think it depends on how big exactly your son is. There are many over weight kids at school and it's cruel to just let them carry on getting bigger and bigger, without stepping in.
You've just said that dad is large, if your son sees him and copies his habits then he told will also be very large. Most overweight parents have overweight kids, sadly.
If they're not told about healthy eating, how will they learn?

It doesn't matter at all how big the child is. You should never discuss weight with an 8yo.

If she'd expressed concern, in private, to the mum that would be one thing. But not directly to the child. That's eating disorder territory.

Dreadful OP, I'd act as you have.

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