AIBU to think he deserved the private road parking fine?

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so father parks on road which is signed as Private road
he gets a fine of £100

the road is private property and not an adopted road - so not maintained by the council - but by the reisdents

he is shocked that parking on private property would lead to a £100 fine - also this is signed at the end of the road

and is going to take this to court

AIBU to think he deserves the fine for ignoring the private road Sogn and then ignoring the parking fine sign

the publicity will also mean that others don't park there and the residents are getting exactly what they wanted

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/north-west-dad-stunned-hes-34646459?fbclid=IwY2xjawUjlyFleHRuA2FlbQIxMABwZG9mAWJyaWQRMWUyRjRzMURNeDZqTlhTb1NzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeQZ93ug9k_H6Z8zkJJ-Sr0t9qC4RZeNdwvwCV3-VQhNRsADlQ6Jt28ayAu7Q_aem_a0LCeXlaNMp7WY0slA0nOg

Typical, lives 1.5 miles from the school. Could so easily walk but is too lazy to bother.

He can add that parking fine to the fines he has must surely also have received from the fashion police.

The fact that the road is private per se is neither here nor there. Lots of places are privately owned but there is no fine for parking within the terms and conditions applied by the owner. Tesco's car park is an example.

AFAIK the relevant question legally is whether the parking restrictions are clearly displayed in a manner that is effective in law in creating a contract such that the bloke in the story is liable to pay a parking charge (it's not a fine). This isn't to say that he was morally right to park there, but if the owners of the land want to enforce a charge then they need to comply with the law.

The photo accompanying the article suggests the signage is quite odd - e.g., the "P residents only" signs are more like something that would normally apply to the parking space alongside the post, not something that would mark the entrance to an entire street where all parking was for residents only. Until recently the whole street had "no entry" signs up instead of cul-de-sac ones they now have, which was odd to say the least, so I wouldn't bet on the signage being enforceable now either.

Have you ever lived on a road with a school? It’s carnage knowing you probably can’t get out of your drive between 8:45 and 9:10, and if you can doing it safely is a challenge. Same at 3pm-3:30. Every day.

I’d be even more enraged if this was happening on my land and people were effectively parking on my driveway that I pay to maintain (which is what a private road is really). It’s only 8 minutes, but when it’s 30 cars for 8 minutes it does make a difference. It wasn’t his land to park on, a classic example of FA&FO. The signage is very clear it’s residents only parking.

If you’ve parked somewhere you shouldn’t have you should expect to pay the fine.

he parked there for however long- doesn’t really matter. He parked somewhere he needed a permit and he didn’t have one. I also noticed it was resident parking only- he’s not a resident!! Pretty clear tbh. He gambled and lost.

But your personal arrangements with work, commuting, children, their schooling are not (and should not be) anyone else's problem. It's on you to find a solution which does not involve inconveniencing someone else (at least, not without their consent)

Crazy entitled nation we live in.

All these parking charges are a piss take. It's just a money making racket.

What an idiot. It clearly says it’s residents only and the fine is £100. I don’t doubt there are parking problems near that school but it sounds like the residents put up the cameras because of people like him. How many times does he have to mention in one article that he is a working man going to work?
I would be embarrassed if my husband had gone to the paper because he was angry he’d got a fine after parking in a place that issues fines

Where I work, we have signs as you drive into the car park, signs around the carpark, signs as you walk towards reception, signs in reception and we tell people to register their cars. It’s amazing how many people don’t notice any of these signs.

Is it okay for me to come and park on your drive every morning while I drop my kids off at school?

No? Then why is it okay for him to park on their land to drop his kids off.

What other deterrent do you suggest instead of a financial one? And if there is no financial penalty, who should pay for the cameras and enforcement of parking - as even the chap in the article admits he has ignored being asked politely by the resident and the school not to park there, so that solution obviously wasn’t enough.

Dont want a fine... dont park on private land.
Its simple.

The length of time he parked for is irrelevant. The warden wouldn’t have known he’d be back in 8 minute.
He knowingly parked in a no parking area, on a private road, and deserves the fine.

Perhaps "tyres will be slashed"?

And exactly the types who would lose their minds if someone parked outside their house.

We live in a residents parking only cul de sac next to a primary school was funny when a traffic warden turned up watching all the mummies swoop in to park, see him and then quick smart three point turn the hell out. Feel I should make a scarecrow of him!

No it’s an attempt to stop people parking where they shouldn’t! I used to live in a flat with a very clearly signed private car park and allocated spaces. I regularly had to challenge people who thought it was absolutely fine to park in my space and go shopping. They put up cameras and had fines enforced in the end because people are just entitled fuckers and money is one of the few things that gets them to sit up and take notice!

nope its a private road end of. He should not have parked there.

I don’t inconvenience anyone, but my point was, not everyone has time to walk to and from school on a morning and get to work on time.

im very happy with our school run arrangements

i said at the very beginning he shouldn’t have parked there but o feel town planners don’t take into consideration that some parents need to be able to park close by for whatever reason, and the parking around schools is atrocious.

But the time people do or don't have available to them in the mornings is completely irrelevant to the matter of an individual parking on private property then moaning about suffering the consequences.

Town planning is an entirely different conversation.

It isn’t a tax. It’s a charge made by the owners of the private road to dissuade unauthorised parking there.

So you wouldn’t mind if I came round and parked on your driveway without asking then?

The relevance was in response to the point you made saying he should walk,

At no point have a said he was in his rights to park there.

How does this work with deliveries, workmen, visitors etc?

I live close to a school and it does get very busy at 9 and 3 o clock. As long as they’re quick and don’t prevent access I couldn’t care less if they park on my road.

my child goes to a different school to the one close to me so I’m mindful to be considerate when parking when picking up from school.

i do feel empathy for parents who are obviously rushing to and from work, it’s not easy, would be easy if we could all work from home, or just not work wouldn’t it

It is possible to do school run and go to work without inconveniencing others. Other modes of transport are available

I would prefer points on a licence. Or the law assume you are unable to see the sign and suspend your licence until you get an up to date eye test.

Is it 'your' road, or a public road that you live on?

I used to live on a public road opposite a school and thought like you, so long as they leave enough space for me to get in and out the drive who cares.

We have a private road next door to the DCs school. Its basically a wide gravel road. Usually full of holes filled with stagnant water.

The upkeep of the road is entirely at the cost of the residents.

The heavy traffic on the road is causing obvious damage. It can be seen as the worst damage is at the end of the road closest to the school, where parents park, turn around (multipoint turns as its a narrow private road), reverse in to stop and start as they drop kids off. The end furthest from the school where it is difficult to turn looks immaculate. It will cost the residents a fortune to fix the damage. The majority of which is not caused by their reasonable use of their own road but the heavy use of multiple cars briefly stopping and starting)

I feel for them, the school sends out requests to not use the road. The requests are ignored.

I am lucky I can walk my kids to school. I would hate to have to do the drop off madness every day. But it is still unreasonable to use private land for drop off unless you plan to pay for the damage being caused.