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AIBU to be surprised someone on £34,000 receives Universal Credit?

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Balicious · Yesterday 14:37

I was listening to BBC Radio 5 Live at work yesterday morning. They were discussing the Conservatives’ proposal to stop people spending benefits on alcohol, cigarettes, etc.—but that isn’t what my question is about.
One caller said she earns £34,000 a year as a trainee social worker and receives an additional £500 a month in Universal Credit. She didn’t mention having children, paying rent or having a disability—she simply said she struggles to live on £34,000 and needs Universal Credit to top up her wages.
What is going on? That’s more than I earn! Could I apply for a top-up too? Has anyone else heard of someone working full-time and earning well above minimum wage having their salary topped up by Universal Credit? I just couldn't get over what I was hearing!

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ThisOldThang · Yesterday 19:22

Myvasesarenew · Yesterday 16:56

It's not a lot though is it. I work part time and earn £30,000, take home is £1900 a month. Renting a 3 bed house here is £1300 a month, council tax £250, gas and electric £300. That's would be all my pay gone. That's without internet, phone, TV, food, fuel, any days out! I have two degrees and work, if I was a single parent I couldn't afford to house my 2 children in a standard 3 bed house.

"I work part time"

"if I was a single parent I couldn't afford to house my 2 children in a standard 3 bed house."

Why do you think that working part-time would/should be sufficient to support two children and rent a 3 bedroom house?

The obvious answer would be to work full-time, just like the rest of us.

ilovepixie · Yesterday 19:24

Balicious · Yesterday 14:37

I was listening to BBC Radio 5 Live at work yesterday morning. They were discussing the Conservatives’ proposal to stop people spending benefits on alcohol, cigarettes, etc.—but that isn’t what my question is about.
One caller said she earns £34,000 a year as a trainee social worker and receives an additional £500 a month in Universal Credit. She didn’t mention having children, paying rent or having a disability—she simply said she struggles to live on £34,000 and needs Universal Credit to top up her wages.
What is going on? That’s more than I earn! Could I apply for a top-up too? Has anyone else heard of someone working full-time and earning well above minimum wage having their salary topped up by Universal Credit? I just couldn't get over what I was hearing!

She must have children, I am single and my income is £750 a month and I don’t get universal credit!

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 19:25

Balicious · Yesterday 14:51

Why the need to be rude? I said I was working, so yes, I obviously missed that detail. It’s easy to be unpleasant from behind a keyboard.

Why make a thread when you couldn’t be bothered to listen properly in the first place? Just admit you’re wrong

SameOldMe · Yesterday 19:39

Greebocat · Yesterday 18:33

I know someone who is married with children and neither of them will work extra hours/overtime or take on extra responsibilities (for more money), because it messes up their UC. Why would people put in the extra time and effort when they are getting the same or more from the government. It’s a hard one to solve, but its not benefit bashing to say this is not sustainable to keep topping up peoples wages, especially if they are working part time.

any extra hours has an effective deduction of about 67.6% once income tax, NI and the UC taper are combined, without childcare or commuting costs so i can understand why.

Greebocat · Yesterday 19:43

SameOldMe · Yesterday 19:39

any extra hours has an effective deduction of about 67.6% once income tax, NI and the UC taper are combined, without childcare or commuting costs so i can understand why.

Yes so can I, but it’s still not sustainable, there must be a better system out there, to help people reach their potential whilst still being able to live.

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 19:49

catspam79 · Yesterday 18:51

I know I don’t that’s what I was trying to tell you

So there’s other detail behind quite simply….

I am a single parent of one dependent child on £34k a year

because if that was the case, you would be entitled to UC @catspam79

OonaStubbs · Yesterday 19:55

Benefits are out of control. It is ridiculous that someone earning £34,000 which is a good wage by any standards, receives a top-up. Regardless of "circumstances".

WhatATimeToBeAlive · Yesterday 19:57

Bloody hell, an extra £6k a year. That is a lot of dosh.

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:00

OonaStubbs · Yesterday 19:55

Benefits are out of control. It is ridiculous that someone earning £34,000 which is a good wage by any standards, receives a top-up. Regardless of "circumstances".

A good wage? That wouldn’t even cover the cost of a 1 bedroom flat where I live.

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:03

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:00

A good wage? That wouldn’t even cover the cost of a 1 bedroom flat where I live.

And?

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 20:04

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:03

And?

So if you’re a single mother with two children on this salary… then you’d genuinely benefit from UC wouldn’t you? I thought that was fairly obvious

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 20:06

Pluto46 · Yesterday 15:24

Public sector workers are rarely held to account in the same way private sectors employees are- you have to be spectacularly shit to be got rid of and, even then, you'll likely be paid off rather then sacked. Other than that, anything else that comes with an organization that never has to worry about being credible, efficient or cost effective, I suppose.

Grenfell? Accountability for the private sector?

Privatisation ..water?You seriously believe this private sector is credible, efficient or cost effective?

US healthcare charges over the NHS? This is such an ill informed post

Just look at the breast care scandal in the UK this week and see where the profit motive takes you …or kids dying in the US because an inhaler jumps from $69 to $699 in a month…yes 1 inhaler. Or a $200 dollar fee to be handed your baby you just gave birth too

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:08

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 20:04

So if you’re a single mother with two children on this salary… then you’d genuinely benefit from UC wouldn’t you? I thought that was fairly obvious

So CB on top and maintenance!! You’d be in the equivalent of the higher tax band!

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:08

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:00

A good wage? That wouldn’t even cover the cost of a 1 bedroom flat where I live.

Move like the rest of us have to.

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:10

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:08

Move like the rest of us have to.

Away from work, friends, family? I’d have to move over 100 miles to get anywhere remotely cheaper. Don’t be so ignorant

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:11

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:10

Away from work, friends, family? I’d have to move over 100 miles to get anywhere remotely cheaper. Don’t be so ignorant

Yep, we had to. There is zero need for anybody on £34k to be getting benefits.

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:13

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:11

Yep, we had to. There is zero need for anybody on £34k to be getting benefits.

You clearly do not understand.

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 20:13

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:11

Yep, we had to. There is zero need for anybody on £34k to be getting benefits.

You were a single parent of 2 dependents in a 1 bed flat? And moved 100 miles away to a different cheaper place even though it meant new job, schools etc?

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:14

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 20:13

You were a single parent of 2 dependents in a 1 bed flat? And moved 100 miles away to a different cheaper place even though it meant new job, schools etc?

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Nobody on £34k, CB and maintenance needs or should have universal benefit.

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 20:14

Moving also costs money. Not to mention finding a new job (which may pay less and still be on UC anyway).

Or moving a child away from their father if the father is involved.

Kettledodger · Yesterday 20:15

My DH and I are on benefits as he is disabled and I am his carer. We live in the midlands and rent. We struggle, I really feel for those who are on less. Our rent for a small 2 bedroom, over 120yo Victorian terrace is £205 over what housing allowance is. We are all feeling the energy crisis with our EPC at a very low D almost a E, which also feeds into everyone’s food bills. Whatever the situation EVERYONE is feeling the pinch at the moment.

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 20:16

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:08

So CB on top and maintenance!! You’d be in the equivalent of the higher tax band!

What a surprise. You changed your user name just to post on this thread. I wonder what your posting history would tell us about you and your continuances 🤔

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:16

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 20:14

Moving also costs money. Not to mention finding a new job (which may pay less and still be on UC anyway).

Or moving a child away from their father if the father is involved.

As I said anybody on £34k with CB and maintenance does not need UC. If you want more sort it yourself. It’s not the responsibility of the state. Surely the government is looking to stop this .

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:17

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 20:16

What a surprise. You changed your user name just to post on this thread. I wonder what your posting history would tell us about you and your continuances 🤔

What was it?

aliceyyyy2654 · Yesterday 20:17

SkyRaisin · Yesterday 20:16

As I said anybody on £34k with CB and maintenance does not need UC. If you want more sort it yourself. It’s not the responsibility of the state. Surely the government is looking to stop this .

Why do you think 34k is a high salary? It isn’t