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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 22/09/2026 10:14

A continuation of Thread 1.

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. Why? Well many reasons.. Here are just two.

Eg. They won't release sex crime statistics of immigrants / asylum seekers. Why? Other European countries have done, and it is not pretty. Our gvt gives out a leaflet asking them not to rape the locals. Why? Our gvt has said they won't house asylum seekers next to schools and nurseries, why?

Eg. UK now spends more on benefits than it earns in income tax. Labour have increased this - not reduced it. Astonishing. As they say - "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others?" That's Labour's Welfare Secretary. He's describing the priorities of Labour MPs.

In the last financial year, the UK government brought in £331 billion in income tax — and spent even more, £333 billion, on welfare, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility's latest economic and fiscal outlook (obr.uk/efo/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-march-2026/#chapter-6).

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shecanbe · 25/09/2026 19:02

I don't think it's an 'extreme' reaction to not want 1000 men on the edge of a village. I wouldn't put any 1000 men in the edge of a village - I don't care where they come from - and I think that was a stupid policy. They could put those 1000 men elsewhere, in so many places, and nobody would even notice.

EasternStandard · 25/09/2026 19:05

It’s filled within a week anyway. 1000 arrive and that’s that accommodation full.

shecanbe · 25/09/2026 19:27

I think there are peak times when they come - like now when the weather is good and the seas are calmer maybe. But as soon as winter approaches, the numbers will fall . I saw Labour have actually reduced the number of crossings, compared to the same time last year.

If Elon Musk and co put even 10% of the energy they put into whipping people into a frenzy about sex-crazed migrants (and this idea that Britain is falling under Sharia law or whatnot), into making the internet safer for children and banning online porn, then that would be something I could get behind. But no. Free porn for all
men - free speech and all that;, our children subject to all sorts of horrors and ideological / sexual grooming online; the likes of Andrew Tate and his morons poisoning boys minds; but oh ... look over there at the poor sods in leaking dingies. They are the threat to 'our women.'

EasternStandard · 25/09/2026 19:31

Obviously putting many in new areas which are Lib Dem and leafy attracts new issues. But people who are not in mc areas felt forgotten as they took more people before that.

So now they too are a no thanks. Which is problematic for Labour.

shecanbe · 25/09/2026 19:41

I think it's probably more of an urban / rural thing rather than whether a place is a LD or a whatever else constituency. I mean, probably don't put asylum seekers in Reform areas which are already volatile enough as it is. But don't put them on the edge of tiny villages with no shops or services either. It's common sense.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 20:25

Gosh another thread almost full @CoventryCity

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 19:03

YANBU OP. Looks like 50% agree. I'm surprised it's not more. Given that only 24,927 people from the UK have voted for the current PM, with an electorate of about 47million people.. it's rather a shocking situation.

24,927 out of 47,000,000 people. Means that only approximately 0.04% of the UK people on the electoral register voted for the current PM.

Much as I don't want yet another PM, Burnham should seek to get his PMship (not sure the correct term) ratified by the electorate, via an election. That as they say is democracy. No one voted for this man, in real terms. I could ask 46.5 million people tomorrow (maybe it would take longer...) if they voted for him, not one could say yes.

Brudffaa · 26/09/2026 19:20

I miss Sunak

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 19:23

Brudffaa · 26/09/2026 19:20

I miss Sunak

Me too. Right PM wrong time, such shame.

Gtfto2024 · 26/09/2026 19:33

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 19:03

YANBU OP. Looks like 50% agree. I'm surprised it's not more. Given that only 24,927 people from the UK have voted for the current PM, with an electorate of about 47million people.. it's rather a shocking situation.

24,927 out of 47,000,000 people. Means that only approximately 0.04% of the UK people on the electoral register voted for the current PM.

Much as I don't want yet another PM, Burnham should seek to get his PMship (not sure the correct term) ratified by the electorate, via an election. That as they say is democracy. No one voted for this man, in real terms. I could ask 46.5 million people tomorrow (maybe it would take longer...) if they voted for him, not one could say yes.

I can see from your comment that you don't seem to understand how our democratic process works.

This may help. It's a very clear guide that should help you.

assets-learning.parliament.uk/uploads/2019/12/How-it-Works-booklet.pdf

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 19:39

Gtfto2024 · 26/09/2026 19:33

I can see from your comment that you don't seem to understand how our democratic process works.

This may help. It's a very clear guide that should help you.

assets-learning.parliament.uk/uploads/2019/12/How-it-Works-booklet.pdf

Yeah.. I was waiting for such a comment. Thanks for obliging. Doesn't change the fact that hardly anyone from the UK voted for the guy. I remember labour people going bonkers about Conservatives doing the same thing (well not Quite the same thing is it, I don't remember the Conservatives fudging / creating / imposing a local by-election in the same way Labour just did, to create a space for who they wanted as PM)..

Gtfto2024 · 26/09/2026 20:13

A simple thank you would have sufficed.

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 20:27

Gtfto2024 · 26/09/2026 20:13

A simple thank you would have sufficed.

Are you talking to me? A simple thank you for what?

TemperanceWest · 26/09/2026 20:41

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 19:03

YANBU OP. Looks like 50% agree. I'm surprised it's not more. Given that only 24,927 people from the UK have voted for the current PM, with an electorate of about 47million people.. it's rather a shocking situation.

24,927 out of 47,000,000 people. Means that only approximately 0.04% of the UK people on the electoral register voted for the current PM.

Much as I don't want yet another PM, Burnham should seek to get his PMship (not sure the correct term) ratified by the electorate, via an election. That as they say is democracy. No one voted for this man, in real terms. I could ask 46.5 million people tomorrow (maybe it would take longer...) if they voted for him, not one could say yes.

Only 25,351 of 47,000,000 people voted for Boris Johnson in 2019.

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2026 20:46

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 19:39

Yeah.. I was waiting for such a comment. Thanks for obliging. Doesn't change the fact that hardly anyone from the UK voted for the guy. I remember labour people going bonkers about Conservatives doing the same thing (well not Quite the same thing is it, I don't remember the Conservatives fudging / creating / imposing a local by-election in the same way Labour just did, to create a space for who they wanted as PM)..

Edited

No, they enobled Cameron so he could be Foreign Secretary instead - voted for by not a single person.

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 20:50

TemperanceWest · 26/09/2026 20:41

Only 25,351 of 47,000,000 people voted for Boris Johnson in 2019.

Indeed. But did BJ resign a mayoral position, and engineer a local by-election so that he could rise to the heights of PM within weeks?

ETA: Answer No.

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 20:53

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2026 20:46

No, they enobled Cameron so he could be Foreign Secretary instead - voted for by not a single person.

Yeah well David M should have won that election if good ol ed hadn't stabbed his own brother in the back (with the help of the misguided misogynistic unions).

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2026 21:07

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 20:53

Yeah well David M should have won that election if good ol ed hadn't stabbed his own brother in the back (with the help of the misguided misogynistic unions).

What election? That’s the entire point, there wasn’t one.

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 21:24

BIossomtoes · 26/09/2026 21:07

What election? That’s the entire point, there wasn’t one.

Ok

RedTagAlan · 27/09/2026 02:11

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 20:50

Indeed. But did BJ resign a mayoral position, and engineer a local by-election so that he could rise to the heights of PM within weeks?

ETA: Answer No.

Edited

It is worth noting, that if Reform were to win the next GE, and Farage was made PM, that because of the way our system works, Farage will still only have about 25k votes, because only his constituency can vote for him.

DdraigGoch · 27/09/2026 13:05

globalinfluence · 26/09/2026 20:50

Indeed. But did BJ resign a mayoral position, and engineer a local by-election so that he could rise to the heights of PM within weeks?

ETA: Answer No.

Edited

Johnson didn't bother resigning his Mayoral position, instead spending a year as both Mayor of London and MP for Uxbridge.

Cynergy · 27/09/2026 13:43

RedTagAlan · 23/09/2026 18:46

Hang on. You have been backing up posters who are saying it is a court case.... by not correcting them, while you knew it was an internal ICO appeal ?

Upthread a bit your good self and others were accusing me of obfuscation. But what I was doing was trying to understand the claims being made.

And you don't see that as an issue? You know, seeing others adding wee bits to the truth to spin it to how they, and you, want others to read about your subject of interest. Surely if you are posting as a bastion of the real truth, then you should be correcting them with links ?In the name of social media purity and all that.

MN is social media after all.

But yeah, you will say you have no control over what others post. You just don't bother to correct misinformation.

You seem to indulge in a lot of going off the topic of the thread.

Social media purity now? Personal accusations? Maybe stick to the topic under discussion instead of constantly going off in different directions.

Cynergy · 27/09/2026 13:46

RedTagAlan · 23/09/2026 19:17

Is that a reply to my post above where I tagged you via the quote function?

But you do not tag/ quote me ?

And when you say, quote "It’s all available for anyone who wants the information", is that not just the same as saying "google it".

This is my thing on this thread. Go up to my first post here, and I am talking about whataboutisms and distraction techniques. And here you are saying, quote "Re below it’s the First-tier Tribunal which is the independent court body responsible for resolving disputes against decisions made by government regulatory bodies."...

But it is not below. The link you posted is ABOVE.

It is all calculated distraction. Or it certainly seems that way.

Calculated distraction sums up your responses on this thread.

RedTagAlan · 27/09/2026 14:06

Cynergy · 27/09/2026 13:46

Calculated distraction sums up your responses on this thread.

Where is the distraction? I was factchecking a claim someone made. And if you look back, you will see that my factchecking was mostly correct. But a poster decided to do semantics.

Title of the thread is "To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2"

Please tell me, with a title like that how is it even possible to go off topic ?

But here you are, not adding anything at all, but just criticizing posters by using wooly phrases that do not actually mean anything.

You could at least point out what you think I am doing "Calculated distraction" from. Or are you saying I am part of some conspiracy ?

EasternStandard · 27/09/2026 14:10

RedTagAlan · 27/09/2026 14:06

Where is the distraction? I was factchecking a claim someone made. And if you look back, you will see that my factchecking was mostly correct. But a poster decided to do semantics.

Title of the thread is "To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2"

Please tell me, with a title like that how is it even possible to go off topic ?

But here you are, not adding anything at all, but just criticizing posters by using wooly phrases that do not actually mean anything.

You could at least point out what you think I am doing "Calculated distraction" from. Or are you saying I am part of some conspiracy ?

If you’re referring to my posts then no this is incorrect.

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