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Aislingk · 16/09/2026 15:34

I’m freaking out as our fixed term mortgage runs out in July 2027. DP said currently we’d be paying between 4-5k monthly and I’m so scared. Will things change by then and what options are there!? Never done this before!

OP posts:
RedToothBrush · 18/09/2026 08:45

borborygmus1 · 18/09/2026 06:18

So I should buy a £1000000 house as my starter home and pay £1,100,000 interest over 35 years rather than buying lower, overpaying and buying the same house a few years later having paid less than a 10th of the interest between the 2 houses by the time all is paid off?

If big house price increases aren't expected, then surely it makes more sense for me to pay less interest on the value of the smaller house while overpaying and earn 4-7% on the money saved while waiting to pay for the house outright than to pay 5.5% annually (ie £50000/year in the first year of the mortgage) on the total value of the large house which may be reducing in value, or at best stagnating in value? In contrast, my first year in the £1000000 house would cost me £0 in interest, which is when compared to £50000, slightly lower.

My family can end up £1,050,000 richer that way, can they not compared to the family who buy the million pounds house using a high mortgage and being unable to overpay and I can retire early/pay for my children's university and give them a housing deposit with the £1050000 interest I do not need to pay.

Happy to review 'the advice' if you send a link.

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No. Because you might not end up with a house at all. Especially given the political instability there is now.

Financial prudence is a concept that seems to have been forgotten in recent years and is grossly unfashionable. It needs a makeover. Quickly.

EveningSpread · 18/09/2026 08:58

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:29

OR maybe we’ve been living our lives because tomorrow is never guaranteed!
we worked hard to earn this, postgraduate degrees and endless courses that never seemed to end. I’m sure if anyone on here wants this type of salary they can work towards it!!!

OP most people have “worked hard”. My DP has and he doesn’t make loads. I got a PhD and have always worked alongside study since I was 14. I now make £70k and my family (admittedly only 3 of us) live in a £200k house. I bought my house at 31 and I’ll be mortgage free by 44 because I can overpay.

Buying a very expensive property is a choice, not something anyone “deserves”. And if you haven’t stress tested your mortgage and outgoings against the worst case scenario, which is a return to 10% interest rates, you’re taking a risk.

The good thing about your situation is you have loads of equity and high salaries, so if you just choose a more modest house you too could pay it off … and have much more security and financial freedom very quickly! I don’t think you can put a price on how much stress would be removed, especially when the world seems so uncertain.

aLFIESMA · 18/09/2026 09:52

My daughter and her husband bought their first house last year, they were a little dazzled by the 'what you could go up to' budget but decided to base their choice on what ifs instead - what if one loses work/illness etc.
They still have a very nice home & are working so hard to do it up (and loving it).
I'm relieved that they thought this way as a liitle baby boy is now on his way!

BermudaRhombus · 18/09/2026 11:02

RedToothBrush · 18/09/2026 08:45

No. Because you might not end up with a house at all. Especially given the political instability there is now.

Financial prudence is a concept that seems to have been forgotten in recent years and is grossly unfashionable. It needs a makeover. Quickly.

I don’t think prudence will make much difference if things are as catastrophically end-of-the-world bad as you keep claiming.

borborygmus1 · Yesterday 07:31

RedToothBrush · 18/09/2026 08:45

No. Because you might not end up with a house at all. Especially given the political instability there is now.

Financial prudence is a concept that seems to have been forgotten in recent years and is grossly unfashionable. It needs a makeover. Quickly.

Very confused by your comments. Please can I ask you to explain.
Do you think OP on their £200000 household income can't afford ANY house?

And you also think it is more financially prudent as a higher earner to buy a house at the top end of affordability with minimal deposit and pay interest on it for 35 years, and pay many many hundreds of thousands in interest Vs pay a tiny amount of interest and retain the money not lost to interest by buying smaller first and stepping up?

My husband and I are waiting for the housing market to stagnate further. Houses have already dipped by £47000 in real terms compared to their peak when you account for inflation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/08/30/houses-in-england-worth-less-than-they-were-20-years-ago/

When we see the right movement in the gilt markets or people need to sell in distress from job loss/the next financial crash, we'll be cash buyers and can offer them a nice easy (read reduced offer) way out. The magic base rate fairy isn't coming, mortgage interest rates have returned to historic norms. The low rates after 2008 were a blip and unlikely to return in the future. Liz Truss accelerated the return but it was coming regardless.

In a high interest high house cost economy, there is downward pressure on housing price (currently through stagflation- house prices aren't keeping pace with inflation). In this economy and especially if there is an economic shock on the way, cash is king and those with very high equity or cash buyers will find it very easy to move Vs those with low equity to have to take on absurd amounts of high interest debt that they simply cannot afford.

We bought our first house 1 year before the OP and were mortgage free age 38, and by the age of 41-42 we will be earning less than the OP's household but in an £850000-£950000 house /retiring early/paying kids uni fees and house deposits because of.... Wait for it...... Financial prudence.

Grumpyoldcat · Yesterday 07:35

2.45% is very low, so you do need to be prepared for it to increase. Wars, high inflation means interest rates are not going to be falling any time soon and may even go up. Its tough at the moment.

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 07:40

borborygmus1 · Yesterday 07:31

Very confused by your comments. Please can I ask you to explain.
Do you think OP on their £200000 household income can't afford ANY house?

And you also think it is more financially prudent as a higher earner to buy a house at the top end of affordability with minimal deposit and pay interest on it for 35 years, and pay many many hundreds of thousands in interest Vs pay a tiny amount of interest and retain the money not lost to interest by buying smaller first and stepping up?

My husband and I are waiting for the housing market to stagnate further. Houses have already dipped by £47000 in real terms compared to their peak when you account for inflation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/08/30/houses-in-england-worth-less-than-they-were-20-years-ago/

When we see the right movement in the gilt markets or people need to sell in distress from job loss/the next financial crash, we'll be cash buyers and can offer them a nice easy (read reduced offer) way out. The magic base rate fairy isn't coming, mortgage interest rates have returned to historic norms. The low rates after 2008 were a blip and unlikely to return in the future. Liz Truss accelerated the return but it was coming regardless.

In a high interest high house cost economy, there is downward pressure on housing price (currently through stagflation- house prices aren't keeping pace with inflation). In this economy and especially if there is an economic shock on the way, cash is king and those with very high equity or cash buyers will find it very easy to move Vs those with low equity to have to take on absurd amounts of high interest debt that they simply cannot afford.

We bought our first house 1 year before the OP and were mortgage free age 38, and by the age of 41-42 we will be earning less than the OP's household but in an £850000-£950000 house /retiring early/paying kids uni fees and house deposits because of.... Wait for it...... Financial prudence.

Managing risk.
Prudence changes with stability.
Understanding market dynamics and liquidity.

If you bought 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago the calculations were different in terms of financial prudence.

The fact you can't grasp this when I've spoken at length about affordability ceilings means you have not understood the problem and you don't get the principles that underpin prudence.

Prudence in 2026 might look very different to prudence in 2008.

borborygmus1 · Yesterday 14:20

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 07:40

Managing risk.
Prudence changes with stability.
Understanding market dynamics and liquidity.

If you bought 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago the calculations were different in terms of financial prudence.

The fact you can't grasp this when I've spoken at length about affordability ceilings means you have not understood the problem and you don't get the principles that underpin prudence.

Prudence in 2026 might look very different to prudence in 2008.

I think we're speaking at cross purposes, given I agree 100% with your opening posts. My previous response (starting with whether I should buy a £1,000,000 house) was purely rhetorical and directed specifically at someone advocating borrowing to the absolute hilt. I interpreted your reply as suggesting that borrowing excessively was the only sensible choice and that the OP couldn't afford even a smaller property without over-borrowing.

In reality, I am extremely financially cautious.
My point was simply that buying small and stepping up was far safer in the 2016/2017 climate, and very likely remains so today. I am acutely aware of the possibility of further major economic shocks or wider conflict in Europe, but through previous financial prudence, we have insulated ourselves as far as possible from these risks: we have no mortgage hanging over us and can comfortably cover all our outgoings on a single salary.

The OP's household earns £70,000 more than mine, and we bought at roughly the same time, yet our decisions have led us to very different places. A lot of people simply do not appreciate financial risk, and those living on cheap credit or with high mortgage borrowing are in for a severe shock if the jobs market declines.

Aislingk · Yesterday 16:03

There will likely be a reset again!

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Shezza71 · Yesterday 16:05

I was on a really good interest rate when I took a mortgage when buying my husband out, Mortgage payments were £950. The deal ended and interest rates were high, we spoke to a broker and the best deal we got saw my payments rise to £1675.00 and that included stretching the mortgage to a longer payback time. Interest rates started to fall and I was hopeful I'd find a better deal, then everything went wrong in the world and interest rates froze. At the moment it won't benefit me to change.

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:07

Yes, you are likely to be paying more. If the costs wil be to much, then best look to downsize.

Aislingk · Yesterday 16:13

Shezza71 · Yesterday 16:05

I was on a really good interest rate when I took a mortgage when buying my husband out, Mortgage payments were £950. The deal ended and interest rates were high, we spoke to a broker and the best deal we got saw my payments rise to £1675.00 and that included stretching the mortgage to a longer payback time. Interest rates started to fall and I was hopeful I'd find a better deal, then everything went wrong in the world and interest rates froze. At the moment it won't benefit me to change.

That’s a steep rise!

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Needingarest · Yesterday 16:21

Ouch, think you’re going to have go downsize unless alot of savings/high income

FourSevenFive · Yesterday 18:22

Aislingk · Yesterday 16:13

That’s a steep rise!

I'm curious now

If the mortgage documents clearly spelt out that the rise you are expecting now can easily happen (with the real numbers), would it change your thinking about taking it or approach to repayments?

No judgment about your choices, I just remember that when we took ours, the numbers weren't trivially available and we were actively asking/modeling ourselves to get them.

Aislingk · Yesterday 18:43

FourSevenFive · Yesterday 18:22

I'm curious now

If the mortgage documents clearly spelt out that the rise you are expecting now can easily happen (with the real numbers), would it change your thinking about taking it or approach to repayments?

No judgment about your choices, I just remember that when we took ours, the numbers weren't trivially available and we were actively asking/modeling ourselves to get them.

Honestly I don’t remember seeing that

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FourSevenFive · Yesterday 21:19

Aislingk · Yesterday 18:43

Honestly I don’t remember seeing that

My question was meant as hypothetical (but maybe my grammar was not).

If the paperwork had contained example numbers for possible scenarios (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7%), would it be usefull ?

foursquares · Yesterday 21:47

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 15:34

I’m freaking out as our fixed term mortgage runs out in July 2027. DP said currently we’d be paying between 4-5k monthly and I’m so scared. Will things change by then and what options are there!? Never done this before!

It's likely that we'll see another 0.75% increase in the base rate over next 12 months. Remember that 5% is the long term average. If you can't manage that you're over leveraged, and need to downsize or earn more.

foursquares · Yesterday 21:48

Keepoffmyartichokes · 16/09/2026 15:37

No one not even the banks know what the situation will be in July.
You can start looking at other deals 6 months before yours ends.
I would recommend taking to a broker, they have access to deals that the general public don't.

Ermm..of course we'll know or can guess.. It'll be closer to 5%.

foursquares · Yesterday 21:52

Catza · 16/09/2026 15:44

Nobody really carries on paying inflated interest when their fixed rate ends. You find a better deal closer to time and remortgage. Depending on how much equity you will have by that point, you may get a much better deal or, at least a marginally better one than the variable rate your bank offers.
My mortgage interest is due to double in 2031 but I am not even remotely concerned about that because, chances are, there will be a better deal elsewhere and I am aggressively overpaying it now to get into a better LTV bracket.

No she won't. Not with 30 years left and current rate of 2.45%. Interest rates increases are only going in one direction over next 12 months...lool at Fed, ECB, BoJ, etc. BoE will follow suit.. She'll at best get rate of 4.5% ish..

foursquares · Yesterday 21:53

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 15:44

We have 550,000 left and joint income of 200,000.

Just learn to manage your money better. You have small mortgage compared to your income

Conundrummum123 · Yesterday 23:39

foursquares · Yesterday 21:47

It's likely that we'll see another 0.75% increase in the base rate over next 12 months. Remember that 5% is the long term average. If you can't manage that you're over leveraged, and need to downsize or earn more.

friendly reminder that fixed rate mortgages are not priced on thr Bank of England base rate

Conundrummum123 · Yesterday 23:42

foursquares · Yesterday 21:52

No she won't. Not with 30 years left and current rate of 2.45%. Interest rates increases are only going in one direction over next 12 months...lool at Fed, ECB, BoJ, etc. BoE will follow suit.. She'll at best get rate of 4.5% ish..

You can’t possibly know that! You have no idea what the forward swap will be when she comes to product transfer. No one does.

sure the market has been pricing in BBR increases since Feb, but they’ve yet to happen. The amount, the timing etc fluctuates hugely. November does look likely but so did July a few months ago.

ps fixed rate mortgages are not based on the bank base rate. I could say that until im blue in the face, but everyone seems to think they are. It’s common to see rates far about base rate aka now and below aka the start of the year

Conundrummum123 · Yesterday 23:44

foursquares · Yesterday 21:48

Ermm..of course we'll know or can guess.. It'll be closer to 5%.

Are you an economist or work in treasury for a bank. You’re talking rubbish. The economic forecast til 2030 doesn’t have on Sonia at 5%

Keepoffmyartichokes · Today 06:52

foursquares · Yesterday 21:48

Ermm..of course we'll know or can guess.. It'll be closer to 5%.

And that's my point, we can guess or try to predict but no one knows for sure. It's all predictions.

themonkey1978 · Today 07:19

There are a lot of “it depends” on the answer to this question.

You should be able to port your mortgage at the same lender for the same rate. So I don’t see a problem.

If I were you, I would get in touch with an independent mortgage advisor and ask them to help you. But I would say “porting” your mortgage is the best bet.

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