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Aislingk · 16/09/2026 15:34

I’m freaking out as our fixed term mortgage runs out in July 2027. DP said currently we’d be paying between 4-5k monthly and I’m so scared. Will things change by then and what options are there!? Never done this before!

OP posts:
aLFIESMA · 17/09/2026 11:18

Thankyou RedToothBrush, this makes sense to me, things are never as simple as they seem.

ItsOnlyMee1 · 17/09/2026 11:40

You have more than enough income to service this increased mortgage price

Reduce your holidays
Change your cars if you have any
Do more shopping on vinted rather than new
Change your food shop habits

Shatenoeuf · 17/09/2026 11:47

I never cease to be amazed by the number of people who massively overextended themselves borrowing 4 or 5 times combined income over 35 years when rates were at rock bottom, with zero consideration that they would eventually rise. People will have to sell, its unavoidable.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 17/09/2026 11:50

Bluntly with 3 children and no savings I'd be looking at downsizing if you refuse to get a grip on your outgoings.

The lifestyle you describe isnt sustainable

Shatenoeuf · 17/09/2026 11:51

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 15:47

House is currently valued at 910,000 in London and we bought it for £700,000.

Prices havent really risen much in london/se since 2017. Are you sure its actually worth 30% more? Have you upgraded decor/kitchens/bathrooms, or extended?

Conundrummum123 · 17/09/2026 11:53

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 10:55

It's about affordability.

A house valued at £900k isn't necessarily a house that will sell at £900k.

Theres a couple of issues here.

There is only a small pool of people who can afford £900k. There is a bigger pool who can afford £700k.

The OP has an income of £200k. Her mortgage is for the house being valued at £700k - the debt being over £500k. She is worried if interest rates go up she will not be able to afford the debt (she can but that's another story).

If the house is worth £900k now, then the people purchasing it either have to have a greater amount of cash to put into the purchase (to match or better having only a £500k debt). Or they will probably need a higher income than £200k.

Now... The higher the income, the less people this means. And if interest rates increase that number of people increases too.

So if the OP wanted to sell the house in this climate, even if the house is valued at £900k, the chances are it won't sell for that. Especially if the OP wanted a quick sale.

The valuation of £900k is only really good for helping calculate which LTV band you fall into when you remortgage if you are not selling and for insurance purposes. It doesn't mean a lot else.

In the current climate with increased stretches on affordability with a likely 25% rise in energy costs incoming in January, this squeezes the number of people able to get a mortgage big enough and puts off even some equity rich or cash buyers because bigger properties are more expensive to heat.

Therefore headed into an energy crisis and a series of expected interest rate rises, prices in this band of properties drop as demand drops, whilst putting higher pressure on cheaper properties pancaking and distorting the property market. This makes it harder for people who want to buy with a mortgage who aren't able to staircase, whilst the cash/equity rich buyers get more choice for less money. It puts downward pressure on the lower part of the housing market whilst marking the top of the market very difficult to sell at an increasing price.

Basically there is something of a ceiling in the market based on mortgage affordability and wage to price ratio which is affected by interest rates.

The very basic oversimplified equation is interest go up = house prices go down.

And stagnate wage growth = an inability of house valuations to continue to rise as in previous decades.

We've basically reached the limits of how much people can borrow to buy a house. Younger home owners are now people who have not benefitted from the large equity gains from house price inflation that we saw 10-15 years ago. The only people now who have large amounts of equity to move up the ladder to buy the 'large family house' are those who have had a significant inheritance or have moved from the SE to the right part of the North (even this last one is starting to run dry because of slow downs in the market down south).

We are reaching a point where the value of a large property will be less than the value of two smaller private properties of equal sq m to the large house in many parts of the country. This poses big questions in terms of a house crisis and planning. The financially astute thing would be to split many of these houses into two properties - no need to break as much green belt then. However this is planning dependant and in areas where there was poor provision for parking, this is even more so the case (and why this type of planning gets rejected). This is where poor public transport is a big issue too.

I wrote a demonstration of changes in purchasing power relating to a slow down in equity growth for my local area. I gave it to local councillors including one who was a geography lecturer on urban planning at one point and has been instrumental in ensuring there's more social housing in the area than most councils and trying to prevent disconnected estates with no services and no public transport. Basically planning and housing was his baby.

He was stunned at my numbers and hadn't realised the extent of the problem. He hadn't seen them written down and understood what they demonstrated before. It shows up what the 2008 market crash meant for local people and how much it killed the market going forward which hasn't adequately adjusted to this cliff point in demographics which exists between age 44 and 48. People under the age of 44 simply do not have the purchasing power of the generation before and this matters because until enough old people die there's not enough liquidity in the market for people under this age to bridge the gap to buy these more expensive properties. But equally as more older people die, there's greater oversupply of the most expensive properties and less to be made from these type of sales too. To put it bluntly, there may be more people in the UK but these people are ultimately poorer overall than the generation before at the same age. Only those who get a good inheritance buck the trends and even this has diminishing returns over time due to parents living longer, greater care costs and the inability of the market to continue to increase in value at the same rate as previously.

My argument was that we needed to ease problems at the second stage of the housing market rather than continue to allow the building of large detached houses no one could afford to take pressure off the middle and bottom of the market and avoid over supply of larger properties which is only helping to make problems worth. Something that the ONS and think-tanks on planning have subsequently also stressed.

The market has peaked in parts of London and elsewhere in the SE in particular. The idea that your house is an investment which you will make a profit on, is not necessarily as true as it was. The numbers show that houses in some places are selling for less than they were. They won't deflate beyond a certain point as the retain a certain floor to their value as well as a ceiling, but if your debt is bigger than your sale price you have an equity problem. I think we will see a lot more correction of the market over time to do with this, to reflect lower wage growth and lower wages btw.

So no. I know fuck all about the housing market and valuations.

Absolutely-fucking-nothing at all

The OP, however, has a spending problem not a debt/interest rate problem.

That’s what I said, it’s about affordability. Rates up affordability goes down

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 11:58

Conundrummum123 · 17/09/2026 11:53

That’s what I said, it’s about affordability. Rates up affordability goes down

Yep. I agreed with you in response to the poster saying I didn't understand.

Aislingk · 17/09/2026 12:22

Shatenoeuf · 17/09/2026 11:51

Prices havent really risen much in london/se since 2017. Are you sure its actually worth 30% more? Have you upgraded decor/kitchens/bathrooms, or extended?

It's outer London, but still on the tube. Yes the house has gone up that much, we actually sold it last year for 910,000 but we pulled out (the buyers already had a mortgage in place with their bank) because our son got into an outstanding primary that was on our road. Our older dd was doing GCSEs so actually it would have been more stressful plus we couldn't find anything too.

OP posts:
RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 12:27

Aislingk · 17/09/2026 12:22

It's outer London, but still on the tube. Yes the house has gone up that much, we actually sold it last year for 910,000 but we pulled out (the buyers already had a mortgage in place with their bank) because our son got into an outstanding primary that was on our road. Our older dd was doing GCSEs so actually it would have been more stressful plus we couldn't find anything too.

Edited

Last year is is not Sept 2026.

Aislingk · 17/09/2026 12:29

Im aware but its not as though it was 10 years ago!
Other houses have gone for asking on our road too!

OP posts:
Tigerthebreadroll · 17/09/2026 18:37

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 16:11

Sounds right thanks!
is there any way we could get to paying less (basically I would happily downsize but DP and 3dcs won’t budge)

You are stressing unnecessarily here. I've just been through a mortgage application last two weeks. Similar income and borrowing 650k over 19 years. Probably mad 😂. Lots of mortgage products to get monthly payments down such as part interest only and part repayment . Work out your monthly level you are comfortable with and by what you pay now you can easily get to a similar number by doing 50/50 and riding out the high interest period and overpaying into either the repayment or interest only portion. It will be fine ! You can always sell up at some point and use the equity to buy outright (our plan)

ItsNotMeEither · 17/09/2026 19:04

As someone else said, you seem to have a spending problem rather than a mortgage problem.

Yes, the payment will go up significantly. Yes, everything else has gone up too. But on 200k, you just need to prioritise things. One less trip to see your family a year, cut back on general spending.

200k a year is over 16000 a month. Even after tax, you can work out this budget. I wouldn’t downsize and your house probably is worth more than you’ve paid for it, so you won’t be losing out, you just need to manage your budget more carefully.

You’ve got a little time up your sleeve, but I’d start getting to grips with that now.

BermudaRhombus · 17/09/2026 19:22

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 10:55

It's about affordability.

A house valued at £900k isn't necessarily a house that will sell at £900k.

Theres a couple of issues here.

There is only a small pool of people who can afford £900k. There is a bigger pool who can afford £700k.

The OP has an income of £200k. Her mortgage is for the house being valued at £700k - the debt being over £500k. She is worried if interest rates go up she will not be able to afford the debt (she can but that's another story).

If the house is worth £900k now, then the people purchasing it either have to have a greater amount of cash to put into the purchase (to match or better having only a £500k debt). Or they will probably need a higher income than £200k.

Now... The higher the income, the less people this means. And if interest rates increase that number of people increases too.

So if the OP wanted to sell the house in this climate, even if the house is valued at £900k, the chances are it won't sell for that. Especially if the OP wanted a quick sale.

The valuation of £900k is only really good for helping calculate which LTV band you fall into when you remortgage if you are not selling and for insurance purposes. It doesn't mean a lot else.

In the current climate with increased stretches on affordability with a likely 25% rise in energy costs incoming in January, this squeezes the number of people able to get a mortgage big enough and puts off even some equity rich or cash buyers because bigger properties are more expensive to heat.

Therefore headed into an energy crisis and a series of expected interest rate rises, prices in this band of properties drop as demand drops, whilst putting higher pressure on cheaper properties pancaking and distorting the property market. This makes it harder for people who want to buy with a mortgage who aren't able to staircase, whilst the cash/equity rich buyers get more choice for less money. It puts downward pressure on the lower part of the housing market whilst marking the top of the market very difficult to sell at an increasing price.

Basically there is something of a ceiling in the market based on mortgage affordability and wage to price ratio which is affected by interest rates.

The very basic oversimplified equation is interest go up = house prices go down.

And stagnate wage growth = an inability of house valuations to continue to rise as in previous decades.

We've basically reached the limits of how much people can borrow to buy a house. Younger home owners are now people who have not benefitted from the large equity gains from house price inflation that we saw 10-15 years ago. The only people now who have large amounts of equity to move up the ladder to buy the 'large family house' are those who have had a significant inheritance or have moved from the SE to the right part of the North (even this last one is starting to run dry because of slow downs in the market down south).

We are reaching a point where the value of a large property will be less than the value of two smaller private properties of equal sq m to the large house in many parts of the country. This poses big questions in terms of a house crisis and planning. The financially astute thing would be to split many of these houses into two properties - no need to break as much green belt then. However this is planning dependant and in areas where there was poor provision for parking, this is even more so the case (and why this type of planning gets rejected). This is where poor public transport is a big issue too.

I wrote a demonstration of changes in purchasing power relating to a slow down in equity growth for my local area. I gave it to local councillors including one who was a geography lecturer on urban planning at one point and has been instrumental in ensuring there's more social housing in the area than most councils and trying to prevent disconnected estates with no services and no public transport. Basically planning and housing was his baby.

He was stunned at my numbers and hadn't realised the extent of the problem. He hadn't seen them written down and understood what they demonstrated before. It shows up what the 2008 market crash meant for local people and how much it killed the market going forward which hasn't adequately adjusted to this cliff point in demographics which exists between age 44 and 48. People under the age of 44 simply do not have the purchasing power of the generation before and this matters because until enough old people die there's not enough liquidity in the market for people under this age to bridge the gap to buy these more expensive properties. But equally as more older people die, there's greater oversupply of the most expensive properties and less to be made from these type of sales too. To put it bluntly, there may be more people in the UK but these people are ultimately poorer overall than the generation before at the same age. Only those who get a good inheritance buck the trends and even this has diminishing returns over time due to parents living longer, greater care costs and the inability of the market to continue to increase in value at the same rate as previously.

My argument was that we needed to ease problems at the second stage of the housing market rather than continue to allow the building of large detached houses no one could afford to take pressure off the middle and bottom of the market and avoid over supply of larger properties which is only helping to make problems worth. Something that the ONS and think-tanks on planning have subsequently also stressed.

The market has peaked in parts of London and elsewhere in the SE in particular. The idea that your house is an investment which you will make a profit on, is not necessarily as true as it was. The numbers show that houses in some places are selling for less than they were. They won't deflate beyond a certain point as the retain a certain floor to their value as well as a ceiling, but if your debt is bigger than your sale price you have an equity problem. I think we will see a lot more correction of the market over time to do with this, to reflect lower wage growth and lower wages btw.

So no. I know fuck all about the housing market and valuations.

Absolutely-fucking-nothing at all

The OP, however, has a spending problem not a debt/interest rate problem.

More poorly informed doom mongering 😆. It’s amazing how many people think they’re property experts!

Lyntill · 17/09/2026 19:47

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gardenflowergirl · 17/09/2026 20:00

Can't you remortgage to a better deal? Maybe with another lender.

Boreded · 17/09/2026 20:01

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 16:09

Ok so he could be exaggerating then. If we increased the term would it be less?

Don’t increase the term unless you absolutely have to. I would rather move than extend the term.

When your rate is up you just remortgage, it’ll be more expensive but you can’t avoid that. By extending the mortgage term you just end up paying exponentially more interest. Your monthly will not go down by a substantial enough amount to be worth it.

on 200k a year household you should be able to afford to pay 3500 a month mortgage. If you can’t then you need to downsize not extend the term

croydon15 · 17/09/2026 20:52

You need to get advice from an independent mortgage broker, they have access to all available mortgages and will find the best available deal for you

borborygmus1 · 17/09/2026 22:43

Sell the house, be thankful that you did so before the upcoming financial crash with major loss of jobs and be thankful you won't bankrupt yourselves.

Or.... Wait for the crash, one (or both) of you loses a job and you're trying to pay council tax, all bills and family costs on £1000 /month.

Next time don't buy too much too soon.
We earn less than you (average adjusted for inflation household income of £121000 while paying the mortgage off and income only substantially increased in recent years) bought a house now worth £500000, paid off the mortgage age 38 and can buy our next house mortgage free in 3 years which will cost similar amount to yours. We still earn less than your combined household income even with our salary increases.

If we'd bought your house as a first house and with your term, we'd have been unable to overpay and would owe £550000 now instead of £0.

You'll pay £750000 interest and we'll pay £28000 interest for the same price house and it's all due to buying too much too soon and paying the huge interest penalty that comes with that.

Oxo01 · 17/09/2026 22:47

Pay off extra each month to start with to lower balance.
A morgage advisor was on TV this morning she said you can lock in a new morgage deal 6 months before yours expires but if you then see rates lower / a better deal you can ask to change it to the lower rate
( not sure if it has to be with same provider or elsewhere ) so check that out.

GreenGraaass · 17/09/2026 22:53

Nobody really carries on paying inflated interest when their fixed rate ends. You find a better deal closer to time and remortgage.

Unfortunately, this is no longer true these days. Those coming off five year fixes this and next year will be paying vastly more than they have been doing.

GreenGraaass · 17/09/2026 22:55

it's all due to buying too much too soon

The property ‘ladder,’ as it was, doesn’t exist any more. Now, the advice is to buy as big/expensive a house as you can afford, with a view to staying in it for longer, as extreme increases in house values are unlikely these days.

TaraRhu · 17/09/2026 22:59

if this helps we've just switched to a 2 year product that's a tracker . Might go up or down a bit but it was also the cheapest product. No commitment either you can just jump off and get a fixed rate if rates do drop. Ours has gone up from £1250 (mega cheap for London) to £1800. Luckily we can just about stomach it.

borborygmus1 · 18/09/2026 06:18

GreenGraaass · 17/09/2026 22:55

it's all due to buying too much too soon

The property ‘ladder,’ as it was, doesn’t exist any more. Now, the advice is to buy as big/expensive a house as you can afford, with a view to staying in it for longer, as extreme increases in house values are unlikely these days.

So I should buy a £1000000 house as my starter home and pay £1,100,000 interest over 35 years rather than buying lower, overpaying and buying the same house a few years later having paid less than a 10th of the interest between the 2 houses by the time all is paid off?

If big house price increases aren't expected, then surely it makes more sense for me to pay less interest on the value of the smaller house while overpaying and earn 4-7% on the money saved while waiting to pay for the house outright than to pay 5.5% annually (ie £50000/year in the first year of the mortgage) on the total value of the large house which may be reducing in value, or at best stagnating in value? In contrast, my first year in the £1000000 house would cost me £0 in interest, which is when compared to £50000, slightly lower.

My family can end up £1,050,000 richer that way, can they not compared to the family who buy the million pounds house using a high mortgage and being unable to overpay and I can retire early/pay for my children's university and give them a housing deposit with the £1050000 interest I do not need to pay.

Happy to review 'the advice' if you send a link.

Bjorkdidit · 18/09/2026 07:18

GreenGraaass · 17/09/2026 22:53

Nobody really carries on paying inflated interest when their fixed rate ends. You find a better deal closer to time and remortgage.

Unfortunately, this is no longer true these days. Those coming off five year fixes this and next year will be paying vastly more than they have been doing.

It's true that there will be a lot of people this year and next coming off 5 year fixes facing interest rate shocks but it's not correct that that the rates available for new deals are 'inflated' in historical terms, typical new fixes are around 4.5% so on the low side of long term average.

However it does seem odd that there's at least two threads currently where people are panicking about having to pay 6% when their deal ends.

RedToothBrush · 18/09/2026 08:43

GreenGraaass · 17/09/2026 22:55

it's all due to buying too much too soon

The property ‘ladder,’ as it was, doesn’t exist any more. Now, the advice is to buy as big/expensive a house as you can afford, with a view to staying in it for longer, as extreme increases in house values are unlikely these days.

This is ridiculous as logic and doesn't factor in risk.

Doing this puts you at extreme risk to various unexpected economic shocks.

History tells us, this are semi regular and you should plan for at least one during your mortgage owning life. Probably two.

The logic should be, buy comfortably within your means even if this means buying a smaller or slightly less desirable house.

This logic is the logic that was going on in 2007 with Northern Rock before 100% mortgages were (temporarily) off the market for a reason. That was less than a decade ago and we've already forgotten how fucking stupid that was.

We are now seeing people going from 2% mortgages (or even lower) to nearly 6% mortgages and having a meltdown. This was warning against as a possibility but again everyone ignored it because "borrow as much as you can" mentality.

Interest rates are likely to go even higher, energy bills 25% higher and don't even talk about petrol (we won't talk about diesel at all because there isn't going to be any that isn't rationed soon at this rate).

Seriously anyone reading this advice and taking it seriously needs a MASSIVE reality check and should not be going to food banks when shit hits the fan.

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