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Aislingk · 16/09/2026 15:34

I’m freaking out as our fixed term mortgage runs out in July 2027. DP said currently we’d be paying between 4-5k monthly and I’m so scared. Will things change by then and what options are there!? Never done this before!

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Rhubarb24 · 16/09/2026 20:11

OP, and anybody else in this situation, if you want to become a bit more savvy about mortgages look on the MSE mortgage forum. The mortgage-free wannabe forum is quite interesting too. Play around with figures on the MSE mortgage calculators, especially the overpayment calculator. Look at how much compound interest you pay and how much you can save. It's eye opening.

Make sure that you have your own log in details for your mortgage account as it's surprising how many people don't.

And make sure you understand better than your husband.

I never used this as I only heard about it after I'd paid mine off, but check out Sprive.

Wiennetta · 16/09/2026 20:16

Assuming 550k left over 25 years wouldn’t repayments be about £3k a month at 4.5%? What % assumption was your partner making to get to 4-5k a month? Were they talking about worst case rather than a most likely scenario?

Catza · 16/09/2026 20:17

FlamingBanana · 16/09/2026 19:04

It’s always £200K with these threads isn’t it? Nobody is ever trying to work out how to pay their mortgage on a combined income of £42K. Absolutely baffling the fact that all these high earners can’t do basic maths, basic budgeting or factcheck things for themselves. Yet obviously it’s not a stealth brag. It does explain why the country is up shit creek without a paddle though.

You might have 3 kids but you’d have already said if they all were in nursery. But let’s assume they are. I’ve assumed one is earning £80K and one is earning £120K so you’ve lost out with tax, tax free and funded childcare. I’ve also assumed you have a student loan and contributing 5% to both your pensions. The £80K salary is bringing in over £4K net and the £120k salary is bringing in almost £5.5K. So a total of £9.5K. Even if we look at £40K and £160K it’s an income of £9.1K per month.

Even if interest rates rise (and it would need to be over 7.5% for you to be repaying £4k per month), you’d still have £5K per month. Let’s assume £1K per child for childcare, that’s £3K. Commuting costs of £500 per month. You would still have £1.5K left for all other bills and extras. If childcare or commuting is more than that, you’ll have to do what everyone else does and cut back. You’ll have to shop at Aldi, maybe not go on holiday. Take up running and cancel the gym, cancel Netflix and buy from Vinted. Talking of interest only and extending the length of term rather than just learning how to budget.

As to your comment that you haven’t always earned this much. Do you think most households are above this threshold and you’re somehow behind the curve?

I agree, it's baffling. There is a common view that poor people are poor because they can't manage their money, yet it seems that it's the high earners who are completely clueless when it comes to budgeting while every single mother on UC can figure out how to feed a family on her last £10. I suppose, if you never had to then you wouldn't know what to do.
My mortgage is nearly 4 times my salary and I am on track to pay it off within 15 years instead of 25 and this is including (the unlikely) 7,5% variable which starts in 4 years. And I earn nowhere near what the OP's family have at their disposal. With 200k income and a mortgage of less that 3 times combined salary, the OP and her husband could have easily paid half of that in the 10 years they've had it and would be in a much stronger position to remortgage. So unless they have massive pension pots and multiple investments they've been squirreling away, I don't really understand why this hasn't occurred to them or reasons for complete lack of financial planning.
Or, indeed, why they couldn't splash out on a financial advisor or a mortgage broker to explain to them how remortgaging works.

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:29

OR maybe we’ve been living our lives because tomorrow is never guaranteed!
we worked hard to earn this, postgraduate degrees and endless courses that never seemed to end. I’m sure if anyone on here wants this type of salary they can work towards it!!!

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GooseCreekandtheRiver · 16/09/2026 20:39

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:29

OR maybe we’ve been living our lives because tomorrow is never guaranteed!
we worked hard to earn this, postgraduate degrees and endless courses that never seemed to end. I’m sure if anyone on here wants this type of salary they can work towards it!!!

Don’t be daft. Most people work hard.

dootball2 · 16/09/2026 20:40

Sounds like he's thought that if the interest rate doubles then the payment doubles, which is not true.

BlueMum16 · 16/09/2026 20:41

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:29

OR maybe we’ve been living our lives because tomorrow is never guaranteed!
we worked hard to earn this, postgraduate degrees and endless courses that never seemed to end. I’m sure if anyone on here wants this type of salary they can work towards it!!!

If you genuinely are both that educated take an hour and read up on mortgages.
Take an hour to look at your finances.

This isn't hard. You can do it while living for today.

Financial planning is key BECAUSE tomorrow is not guaranteed

Catza · 16/09/2026 20:51

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:29

OR maybe we’ve been living our lives because tomorrow is never guaranteed!
we worked hard to earn this, postgraduate degrees and endless courses that never seemed to end. I’m sure if anyone on here wants this type of salary they can work towards it!!!

I also have a postgraduate degree and have attended endless courses subsequently. What's your point?
Well, you lived your life because tomorrow is not guaranteed. Now you arrived at the point where your mortgage rate is no longer guaranteed which, I am sure, figured in your thoughts when you were making the decision to "live for today".

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:54

Catza · 16/09/2026 20:51

I also have a postgraduate degree and have attended endless courses subsequently. What's your point?
Well, you lived your life because tomorrow is not guaranteed. Now you arrived at the point where your mortgage rate is no longer guaranteed which, I am sure, figured in your thoughts when you were making the decision to "live for today".

Still glad I did as life is too short for many sadly!

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Didimum · 16/09/2026 21:00

Where on earth are you getting these repayment figures from?

We have a £620k mortgage on a £900k house and currently pay £2.9k a month. Renew in May 2027. Current mortgage rates look to be about just over £3k.

Where do you get £4-5k from?

FlamingBanana · 16/09/2026 21:01

A lot of people work hard. What you earn has no correlation on how hard you work.

If you have enough intelligence that both of you can get postgraduate degrees, you can find and use an online mortgage calculator. You can also know that your household income is significantly above most households from a very simple Google. You aren’t earning that much if you can’t use Google.

If tomorrow is not guaranteed, why are you even worrying about what the interest rate will be next year?

Just accept you need to learn how to budget. It’s quite normal as you climb the career ladder for your lifestyle to creep. It’s not a moral failure that you have to recheck yourself sometimes and reign your spending in. It is a moral failure to pretend you can’t pay the mortgage when you bring home at least £9K per month and your partner is pulling mortgage repayment figures out of his arse (and you’re getting worked up about them).

From someone with a postgrad, by the way.

Conundrummum123 · 16/09/2026 21:02

Hey deep breaths OP.
i work in mortgages so this is my bread and butter.

i will not lie to you swaps right now are high but they are not Liz truss high, they also came down a bit today (last few days were scary) but your mortgage doesn’t expire for another year, and no one has a crystal ball, you have no idea what swaps will look like then. So I’d play it by ear. You know your monthly repayment will go up, that is a known known at this point, it is just the quantum of how much.

there are many options available to you

  1. unless you need to borrow more money you do not need to remortgage, you can product transfer which means affordability will not be reassessed
  2. if we persist in a rate up environment a tracker is your best bet as they are going to be cheaper than the fixed (you’ll see it atm)
  3. you can talk to your lender about switching to interest only for a while if you think you really struggle
  4. can you pay down any capital balance
PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 16/09/2026 21:05

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:54

Still glad I did as life is too short for many sadly!

Don't be scared about paying more for your mortgage next year then. Learn how interest is calculated and applied to a loan and start shopping around six months before your current deal ends. It's only money, you've got plenty of it.

Random321 · 16/09/2026 21:11

You seem to think responses indicate that posters don't work hard, are qualified or have similar earnings.

It's not true and not begrudery or jealous, it's sheer astonisment that someone in your position as such a poor grasp on their finances.

househelp12345 · 16/09/2026 22:06

Shittyyear2025 · 16/09/2026 18:46

Jesus op. Your joint salary is £200k!

Even with 4 kids and a mortgage of £2500 a month you could knock £100k off your mortgage in the next 12 months unless you've got top-tier private school fees to pay too.

You're in an exceptionally wealthy position compared to the majority of the UK population. You should pay for some advice because your DH has no idea about mortgages or how they work but even then nobody can accurately predict the future.

Half of that salary will be paid in tax though! They’ll bring home £100k. Once the existing mortgage and bills are paid they won’t be anywhere near the amount you think for overpayments (although not nothing!)

GooseCreekandtheRiver · 16/09/2026 22:24

househelp12345 · 16/09/2026 22:06

Half of that salary will be paid in tax though! They’ll bring home £100k. Once the existing mortgage and bills are paid they won’t be anywhere near the amount you think for overpayments (although not nothing!)

No it won’t. If they are on £100k each then (without student loans, pension etc) they would each take home just under £70k. So nearly £140k in total as joint income.

However by the time an individual earns £200k they are “only” taking home £118k (£110k if they live in Scotland).

Greenismyfavouritecolournow · 16/09/2026 22:27

I doubt that interest rates will come down any time soon. Unfortunately you have overstretched yourselves for your mortgage. And 35 years is a crazy length of time to be paying for a house. In your situation you have two choices : suck it up or downsize to a house you can afford. Will your three children want to go to university? That’s going to be expensive too.

Conundrummum123 · 16/09/2026 22:28

My god there are so many people who know nothing about mortgages on this thread just commenting for the sake of it

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 06:30

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 20:29

OR maybe we’ve been living our lives because tomorrow is never guaranteed!
we worked hard to earn this, postgraduate degrees and endless courses that never seemed to end. I’m sure if anyone on here wants this type of salary they can work towards it!!!

Well you have an attitude which puts you at risk then. Not an inability to pay the mortgage.

GordanoServices · 17/09/2026 07:53

Aislingk · 16/09/2026 16:09

Ok so he could be exaggerating then. If we increased the term would it be less?

Why don’t you use a mortgage calculator yourself, as suggested by other posters.

Tortephant · 17/09/2026 08:12

OP, DO NOT move to interest only. thats a foolish way to address this situation.
35yrs is already a very long term so please don't go extending that either. If you can't afford the new repayments then get your house for sale now and start looking before you are in a situation and it becomes very stressful and desperate.

You may have to change area a bit, you can still afford a big home if thats what's important. You say this sin't a long term home so don't go through the stress when you don't need to.

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 17/09/2026 08:44

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2026 15:56

Your house won't be worth £910,000 with these interest rates rises. It will be worth closer to £700,000. Or less.

The problem with house prices is they are about what people can afford. As less people are able to afford £900k, it ceases to be worth £900k because there is no one to buy it for that amount.

I dont think you understand the property market.

Conundrummum123 · 17/09/2026 08:58

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 17/09/2026 08:44

I dont think you understand the property market.

No I’m not sure you do.

its supply and demand. When rates rise, affordability falls. There is already a small subset of people that can afford the luxury property market ie above 550k and they will be more sensitive to rate shock. The house is worth what people are willing to pay and in a rate up environment big houses struggle to sell so depending on their location they can stagnate in value or increase but as a smaller rate. In a rate up environment in general house prices won’t rise as fast because its supply and demand and basic affordability has changed, where 5 years ago £1000 a month got you say a £300k mortgage now it’s £200k or less etc

aLFIESMA · 17/09/2026 09:25

'Living life' because tommorow is never guaranteed.
I think its pretty well guaranteed to need funding eg planning/ budgeting for a rainy day though!
Especially when you have children dependent on your decision making.
This following holds true for all incomes/lifestyles/budgets -
Be your future friend.

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 10:55

Conundrummum123 · 17/09/2026 08:58

No I’m not sure you do.

its supply and demand. When rates rise, affordability falls. There is already a small subset of people that can afford the luxury property market ie above 550k and they will be more sensitive to rate shock. The house is worth what people are willing to pay and in a rate up environment big houses struggle to sell so depending on their location they can stagnate in value or increase but as a smaller rate. In a rate up environment in general house prices won’t rise as fast because its supply and demand and basic affordability has changed, where 5 years ago £1000 a month got you say a £300k mortgage now it’s £200k or less etc

It's about affordability.

A house valued at £900k isn't necessarily a house that will sell at £900k.

Theres a couple of issues here.

There is only a small pool of people who can afford £900k. There is a bigger pool who can afford £700k.

The OP has an income of £200k. Her mortgage is for the house being valued at £700k - the debt being over £500k. She is worried if interest rates go up she will not be able to afford the debt (she can but that's another story).

If the house is worth £900k now, then the people purchasing it either have to have a greater amount of cash to put into the purchase (to match or better having only a £500k debt). Or they will probably need a higher income than £200k.

Now... The higher the income, the less people this means. And if interest rates increase that number of people increases too.

So if the OP wanted to sell the house in this climate, even if the house is valued at £900k, the chances are it won't sell for that. Especially if the OP wanted a quick sale.

The valuation of £900k is only really good for helping calculate which LTV band you fall into when you remortgage if you are not selling and for insurance purposes. It doesn't mean a lot else.

In the current climate with increased stretches on affordability with a likely 25% rise in energy costs incoming in January, this squeezes the number of people able to get a mortgage big enough and puts off even some equity rich or cash buyers because bigger properties are more expensive to heat.

Therefore headed into an energy crisis and a series of expected interest rate rises, prices in this band of properties drop as demand drops, whilst putting higher pressure on cheaper properties pancaking and distorting the property market. This makes it harder for people who want to buy with a mortgage who aren't able to staircase, whilst the cash/equity rich buyers get more choice for less money. It puts downward pressure on the lower part of the housing market whilst marking the top of the market very difficult to sell at an increasing price.

Basically there is something of a ceiling in the market based on mortgage affordability and wage to price ratio which is affected by interest rates.

The very basic oversimplified equation is interest go up = house prices go down.

And stagnate wage growth = an inability of house valuations to continue to rise as in previous decades.

We've basically reached the limits of how much people can borrow to buy a house. Younger home owners are now people who have not benefitted from the large equity gains from house price inflation that we saw 10-15 years ago. The only people now who have large amounts of equity to move up the ladder to buy the 'large family house' are those who have had a significant inheritance or have moved from the SE to the right part of the North (even this last one is starting to run dry because of slow downs in the market down south).

We are reaching a point where the value of a large property will be less than the value of two smaller private properties of equal sq m to the large house in many parts of the country. This poses big questions in terms of a house crisis and planning. The financially astute thing would be to split many of these houses into two properties - no need to break as much green belt then. However this is planning dependant and in areas where there was poor provision for parking, this is even more so the case (and why this type of planning gets rejected). This is where poor public transport is a big issue too.

I wrote a demonstration of changes in purchasing power relating to a slow down in equity growth for my local area. I gave it to local councillors including one who was a geography lecturer on urban planning at one point and has been instrumental in ensuring there's more social housing in the area than most councils and trying to prevent disconnected estates with no services and no public transport. Basically planning and housing was his baby.

He was stunned at my numbers and hadn't realised the extent of the problem. He hadn't seen them written down and understood what they demonstrated before. It shows up what the 2008 market crash meant for local people and how much it killed the market going forward which hasn't adequately adjusted to this cliff point in demographics which exists between age 44 and 48. People under the age of 44 simply do not have the purchasing power of the generation before and this matters because until enough old people die there's not enough liquidity in the market for people under this age to bridge the gap to buy these more expensive properties. But equally as more older people die, there's greater oversupply of the most expensive properties and less to be made from these type of sales too. To put it bluntly, there may be more people in the UK but these people are ultimately poorer overall than the generation before at the same age. Only those who get a good inheritance buck the trends and even this has diminishing returns over time due to parents living longer, greater care costs and the inability of the market to continue to increase in value at the same rate as previously.

My argument was that we needed to ease problems at the second stage of the housing market rather than continue to allow the building of large detached houses no one could afford to take pressure off the middle and bottom of the market and avoid over supply of larger properties which is only helping to make problems worth. Something that the ONS and think-tanks on planning have subsequently also stressed.

The market has peaked in parts of London and elsewhere in the SE in particular. The idea that your house is an investment which you will make a profit on, is not necessarily as true as it was. The numbers show that houses in some places are selling for less than they were. They won't deflate beyond a certain point as the retain a certain floor to their value as well as a ceiling, but if your debt is bigger than your sale price you have an equity problem. I think we will see a lot more correction of the market over time to do with this, to reflect lower wage growth and lower wages btw.

So no. I know fuck all about the housing market and valuations.

Absolutely-fucking-nothing at all

The OP, however, has a spending problem not a debt/interest rate problem.

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