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AIBU to think of course all the anti-trans posts on this website and others are leading to real life harm?

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helpfulucy · 14/09/2026 15:39

Just seen a video of a trans woman minding her business in a train station getting horribly bullied by some Tommy Robinson wanna-be and couldn't help but think back to all the aggressive threads I've seen on Mumsnet.

Pages and pages of vilifying innocent trans people, calling them perverts and all sorts with zero evidence of anything of the sort of course would lead to people like this harassing and attacking trans people in public. I've see a few of so-called GC brigade say 'this isn't what we wanted' but it is the end, isn't it? If you do see trans people as disgusting abusive perverts trying to sneak into your changing rooms and hurt your daughter, you'd want them to be bashed in public yeah?

Am I wrong to think their chickens are coming home to roost and certain posters will want to claim they never had a hand in it all?

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Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:18

MintGr33n · 15/09/2026 18:11

Not really. It isn’t truth being spoken but vile misinformation, manipulation and plain old discrimination. People will die and then finally something will be done.

Vulnerable people are having their delusions enabled and these people are being lied to rather than been told no, you can of course wear a skirt but that does not make you a woman.
If this stuff was said in the first place it would really help.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2026 18:19

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:15

Women die all the time at the hands of men - why do you think that will change now ?

oh - hang on you don’t care about them
because they are women

you fear a transgender person will
be killed by a … woman radicalised here ? I would be most surprised ! Surely it’s more likely that a man will be the killer ?

truth is being spoken. Transgender male people are committing violent and sexual offences at rates only see in men. That is the truth. They are not behaving on average like women because on average women are not violent like men are.

I’d say it’s vastly more likely that a woman will be the victim of a TRA. This has already happened in the US. Two lesbians and their son.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trans-activist-convicted-murders-lesbian-214509892.html

Trans Activist Convicted in Murders of Lesbian Couple and Their Son

Dana Rivers maintains her innocence, however.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trans-activist-convicted-murders-lesbian-214509892.html

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2026 18:20

ArabellaScott · 15/09/2026 18:17

'You lot'.

'Vile'

'Should be ashamed'

And we are supposed to be the ones who are not being civil. Good lord.

It’s just so predictable- these threads always go this way.

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:23

There are 100 red items and 100 green

3 red items are big squares
99 green items are big squares

imagine the objects contain water and you are parched

imagine the squares are poisioness

would you be equally happy to be given a red as a green object ? I mean not all green objects are poisoned after all because at least one isn’t

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2026 18:24

I really don’t understand why so many trans rights activists and their supporters are so completely unable to have a civil, good faith, rational discussion with people they disagree with on a simple matter of belief. I realise they know they’re propping up utter nonsense, but they’re on the right side of history! Yay!

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 15/09/2026 18:24

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:08

Truth is vile?

asking for explanations is vile?

what exactly is vile?

the fact that you can’t argue with it ? Kind of like a foot stomp ?

Biology is vile😂

Absolute morons.

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:24

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2026 18:15

I haven’t seen the specific video in question. So I don’t know if he was a fetishist or not and I’m not going to comment on what other people think about it. I disagree that people should harass people in the street. Hope that helps.

You've spent most of the last day commenting and you haven't even bothered to look at the video being discussed?

Here is for you: https://x.com/vitt2tsnoc/status/2099485513165971945

Can't wait to see how you victim blame someone just sitting in a station.

Vittoria (@vitt2tsnoc) on X

You can disagree with someone’s identity, politics, beliefs, whatever. But filming a stranger quietly minding their own, so that they can be mocked, is just cruel. This isn’t activism, isn’t journalism, isn’t a crusade, it’s nasty infantile bullying.

https://x.com/vitt2tsnoc/status/2099485513165971945

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Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:25

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:11

@Gloriia @Ereshkigalangcleg @Shedmistress

Would you consider the quoted posts above to be abusive, extreme or indeed transphobic? They are proof of a number of so called GCs, both on and off mumsnet calling for more abuse towards trans women. Do you condemn these posters?

Haven't i already answered? It is a fetish for a lot of men they admit it

Regarding the other comments from KJK i don't see the relevance? Try and debate with actual posts here not something you saw elsewhere.

REMEMBERthemALL · 15/09/2026 18:26

MintGr33n · 15/09/2026 18:14

Even Cass has identified and highlighted how trans children are being used as political weapons, that’s you lot- on MN, a parenting site supposed tos portents, all parents and it’s vile. Calling parents child abusers, trying to portray all trans people as predators. It’s vile discrimination and weaponising children. MN should be ashamed for not dealing with it robustly enough.

Have you actually read the whole report and what she says? You present a very one view of it.

Shegotanology · 15/09/2026 18:26

Just know that whatever you leave behind online, will one day be read by your descendants. We'll be mulled over and thought of as barbaric for many of our practices, especially those that harm others, and will be regarded as ethically indefensible or profoundly regressive.

Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:26

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:24

You've spent most of the last day commenting and you haven't even bothered to look at the video being discussed?

Here is for you: https://x.com/vitt2tsnoc/status/2099485513165971945

Can't wait to see how you victim blame someone just sitting in a station.

Men verbally a man. That's why we don't want men in women only areas.

Verbal abuse is not ok. Go educate the men!

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:28

No one should be subjected to harm.thats not the point of this.

the point was YOU were blaming women , especially those on MN , for inciting the violence in another pathetic attempt to silence women

blame the people conducting the violence - just a suggestion

blaming women for the harm men do to other men - isn’t that likely to bring more harm to women because it by your logic makes them feel more empowered and justified ?

thanks for nothing

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:29

Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:25

Haven't i already answered? It is a fetish for a lot of men they admit it

Regarding the other comments from KJK i don't see the relevance? Try and debate with actual posts here not something you saw elsewhere.

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So to be clear, because you believe they all have a fetish, it is okay for them to be harassed in public? Even though you have no evidence that the person in question isn't innocent?

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MintGr33n · 15/09/2026 18:29

Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:26

Men verbally a man. That's why we don't want men in women only areas.

Verbal abuse is not ok. Go educate the men!

No it’s the trans community being persecuted due to online hate which frequently happens on MN

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2026 18:29

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:24

You've spent most of the last day commenting and you haven't even bothered to look at the video being discussed?

Here is for you: https://x.com/vitt2tsnoc/status/2099485513165971945

Can't wait to see how you victim blame someone just sitting in a station.

I said I hadn’t seen it in my very first post. I’m not commenting on the video, I’m commenting on the attacks you made on MN as an FWR regular, which has zero to do with the video. I realise you’ve seen something on TikTok or whatever and tried to use it to smear feminist women on MN but it really has nothing to do with anyone here.

FrippEnos · 15/09/2026 18:29

molinint · Today 16:51

If men could accept that ‘feminine’ men are valid men or men who wear pink and boas are valid men (not women) then perhaps the male population might be more accepting of non-manly men. Men come in all personalities and preferences, as a sex class this should be embraced.
This is a man problem.

The problem with this is that it, once again, points the finger of the problem at someone else.

The problem is that the trans lobby will not accept that women should have their own single sex spaces.

This is a trans lobby/TRA problem, and that is where the finger should still be pointed.

Beece · 15/09/2026 18:30

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:29

So to be clear, because you believe they all have a fetish, it is okay for them to be harassed in public? Even though you have no evidence that the person in question isn't innocent?

I think anyone doing anything for sexual kicks in public should not be tolerated.

Do you seriously think that’s ok?

Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:30

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:29

So to be clear, because you believe they all have a fetish, it is okay for them to be harassed in public? Even though you have no evidence that the person in question isn't innocent?

No I said it is a fetish for a lot of men and they happily admit it talking about their boners when dressed in women's clothes.

No one should be abused. Again tell the men doing it.

Rollingpinofdoom · 15/09/2026 18:31

AmberTigerEyes · 15/09/2026 16:41

I’m not asking you to be google. I was asking if you’d like to share the books you had read on Jon Money, Volkmar Sirtusch and Peter Smith. I suppose it’s a secret then. Why are you ashamed to mention the books?

I’m not. Why are you expecting me to go the work for you? I had to find the info, so you can too. It’ll be an eye opener I’m sure.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2026 18:31

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:28

No one should be subjected to harm.thats not the point of this.

the point was YOU were blaming women , especially those on MN , for inciting the violence in another pathetic attempt to silence women

blame the people conducting the violence - just a suggestion

blaming women for the harm men do to other men - isn’t that likely to bring more harm to women because it by your logic makes them feel more empowered and justified ?

thanks for nothing

Exactly. Not sure there’s much self awareness from certain posters though. Women didn’t do this. MN didn’t post it. AFAIK there isn’t a thread about it. It has fuck all to do with anyone here.

Gloriia · 15/09/2026 18:32

MintGr33n · 15/09/2026 18:29

No it’s the trans community being persecuted due to online hate which frequently happens on MN

There is no hate on mn, facts aren't hate.

Hate is spewed by TRAs who want to kill us.

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:32

MintGr33n · 15/09/2026 18:29

No it’s the trans community being persecuted due to online hate which frequently happens on MN

It is not hateful to say that men are not and can not ever be women

get over it

if hate is written on MN it is puller and the posters may be banned

inciting violence has not happened on here

yes women are pissed of that people like the OP try to deny the harm that men of any gender perpetuate on women . That they lie and pretend transgender men are somehow different - dispute the evidence to the contrary

Hoardasurass · 15/09/2026 18:33

spannasaurus · 15/09/2026 17:27

I'd be interested in the scientific studies. Have you got a link?

Ooh I bet its the corpus one

ArabellaScott · 15/09/2026 18:33

helpfulucy · 15/09/2026 18:24

You've spent most of the last day commenting and you haven't even bothered to look at the video being discussed?

Here is for you: https://x.com/vitt2tsnoc/status/2099485513165971945

Can't wait to see how you victim blame someone just sitting in a station.

You didnt bother to share it, so how was anyone supposed to see it?

backformoreofthesame · 15/09/2026 18:33

Women didn’t do it and there is no evidence that women encouraged the men to do it

there is no evidence that the men frequent MN and have been radicalised by mn

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