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DD’s dad has taken her overseas and won’t bring her back

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CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:01

Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad have been separated for 4 years. He had DD last weekend and has taken her overseas (he had her passport) and has moved overseas (America) with her and won’t bring her back! I had no idea that he was planning to do this! He has obviously been planning it for a while as he would have had to get Visa’s and plan his move to America and so on. He texted me on Saturday morning while he had DD saying that he was at the airport and that he was moving to America for work and that he was taking DD with him and wouldn’t bring her back! He hasn’t answered any of my calls or messages since. I’m going insane worrying about my DD. I’ve been absolutely in bits since, I’m an absolute wreck and can’t stop crying and worrying about my DD and just want her home with me! I’m DD’s primary parent so can’t imagine how scared and upset she must be feeling without me! The police here in the UK won’t do anything as they are saying her dad also has parental responsibility like me so there’s nothing they can do. Social services are refusing to get involved as well. AIBU to think that the police and authorities should be doing more to get my DD home? I’m absolutely in bits and can’t stop crying over it all! I’m furious and livid with her dad too, I’m absolutely raging at him with anger for doing this

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Cadeaukatze · 11/09/2026 09:35

dreamingbohemian · 11/09/2026 00:20

Since the WHTI and new rules under Trump, if US citizens don't have a passport or driver's license they will have to go through secondary screening, at which point it would be very surprising if they didn't ask whether the mother had given permission.
A birth certificate alone if born outside the US doesn't prove anything.

And wouldn't there be questions asked at the UK end and the Canadian end anyway about whether the other parent had consented to travel and asking for proof. I've seen posts on here before about people needing consent or being phoned up by border control/the airline.

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 09:36

YankTank · 11/09/2026 08:37

Maybe she’s not even a US citizen by birthright because XH didn’t qualify, and she has a visa. I think this is the most plausible explanation.

Again… there is no such thing as a us citizen by birthright if you were not born in the US. A child of one or two US citizens will not obtain US citizenship until an application is received from BOTH parents. Either through both parents attending the required interview or one parent attending with a notorised form.

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 09:39

Cadeaukatze · 11/09/2026 09:35

And wouldn't there be questions asked at the UK end and the Canadian end anyway about whether the other parent had consented to travel and asking for proof. I've seen posts on here before about people needing consent or being phoned up by border control/the airline.

Absolutely not. Again - I am a US citizen and have travelled abroad with my child who is UK citizen only and actually has a different surname name. The UK border have never said anything when leaving. My son (then age 6) was once questioned when returning and it was only to ask what my relationship was to him

YankTank · 11/09/2026 09:41

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 09:36

Again… there is no such thing as a us citizen by birthright if you were not born in the US. A child of one or two US citizens will not obtain US citizenship until an application is received from BOTH parents. Either through both parents attending the required interview or one parent attending with a notorised form.

Not true. If you were born overseas and your parent is a US citizen who has lived in the US for 11+ years, two of which were age 14+, you ARE a US citizen. You may not have had your birth registered at an embassy yet, but you ARE legally a US citizen.

bibliomania · 11/09/2026 09:42

Brilliant advice from @DontGoChasinWaterfalls . Good luck with the solicitor today, OP. And a handhold - this was an absolute terror of mine for years, to the point where I wanted to fast forward her childhood to get to the point where she would be safe. It's truly awful.

Cordeliasdemonbabies · 11/09/2026 09:58

Good luck with the family law adviser this morning. We are all rooting for you and your daughter.

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 09:59

I read this late last night, but didn't get a chance to post. OP I'm so sorry, you must be out of your mind worrying. Your poor DD must be so frightened, especially when it sounds like only saw her 2 days out of 14. I can't believe this is legal.
I hope it goes ok with the solicitor today. If you know his place of work then at least if things fall legally in your favour you can at least find her.

Is a private detective a possibility? Someone who can stalk him home from work, you can then contact authorities or go over yourself and bring her home. I know I've simplified it.

Don't lose hope OP. I know the next steps are going to be really hard but I do believe that you will be reunited and that systems are surely in place to help protect the children and primary parent.

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:01

I cannot believe that 4% think you are being unreasonable. Can only think it must be a mistake. Surely mums cannot disagree with this being awful!

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 10:03

I already posted but the more I think about this, the more it doesn’t add up. Parental abduction is a crime and police would 100% get involved. It is not a custody or civil matter. So I don’t understand why police are fobbing you off, it makes no sense.

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 10:04

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:01

I cannot believe that 4% think you are being unreasonable. Can only think it must be a mistake. Surely mums cannot disagree with this being awful!

I don’t think anyone thinks it isn’t awful, it’s more the way it’s progressed. He called OP before he was about to kidnap their daughter and she did nothing. That’s what many of us can’t get our heads around.

CherryMummy1 · 11/09/2026 10:14

Sorry for my late reply. I’m just about to join the Teams meeting now with the solicitor now. I’m just having another cry as well, I’m absolutely distraught

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FeistyFrankie · 11/09/2026 10:14

You need to seek legal advice, make it clear you never gave permission and this is an unauthorised child abduction. The authorities have a legal obligation to return your daughter to you.

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:24

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 10:03

I already posted but the more I think about this, the more it doesn’t add up. Parental abduction is a crime and police would 100% get involved. It is not a custody or civil matter. So I don’t understand why police are fobbing you off, it makes no sense.

I agree although I don't know how often people are challenged at the airport? Are staff worrying about offending people if it turns out the other parent has died or something?

I know in the USA they are particularly strict about so it would surprise me if they didn't get questioned on arrival.

I travelled to the USA at 19 and border control were making demands on me because I was a "minor" in that particular state. So it's hard to imagine this would get them very far.

I'm also querying whether he's said this just to be cruel.

cordelia16 · 11/09/2026 10:34

Mumsgirls · 10/09/2026 21:34

I would guess he got her an American passport, easy enough in uk through the us embassy. Should be able to get her back with a us lawyer and money but will take time. He knows all this, spiteful man to distress a child. Hope she plays up

Getting a US passport for a child in the UK born to one American parent still requires BOTH parents to not only sign the forms but appear in person and swear to the facts. If the non-American parent cannot appear for any reason, he/she must sign a formal waiver.

It is not easy to get a US passport for a child in the UK via the embassy, nor is it easy to renew a child passport in any other country. We lived in SG for 8 yrs after the UK, and both parents had to appear at the US embassy to renew the passports - we also had to show yearly photographs of each child to show the age progression, as children change a lot in 5 years.

My 18yo son needs his US passport renewed. As he's converting a child passport to an adult one, both parents still need to be present. And this is for our adult child (as his most recent passport was a 5-year one).

The US does not taking issuing passports lightly, so I have no idea how OP's chid's dad has managed this without OP's permission.

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:34

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 10:04

I don’t think anyone thinks it isn’t awful, it’s more the way it’s progressed. He called OP before he was about to kidnap their daughter and she did nothing. That’s what many of us can’t get our heads around.

I thought daughter was already with him when he informed the OP? Therefore was already kidnapped if at the airport?

Hard to imagine what I'd do in that position. Wonder if I'd even believe it or think they had already landed. I prob would call the police and every airport in the UK and abroad immediately.

It's crazy to me that a dad who only saw their child once a fortnight would have any interest in having them full time. Likewise I'm confused that the school isn't also involved.

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 10:34

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:24

I agree although I don't know how often people are challenged at the airport? Are staff worrying about offending people if it turns out the other parent has died or something?

I know in the USA they are particularly strict about so it would surprise me if they didn't get questioned on arrival.

I travelled to the USA at 19 and border control were making demands on me because I was a "minor" in that particular state. So it's hard to imagine this would get them very far.

I'm also querying whether he's said this just to be cruel.

But when it comes to the abduction of a child, even by a parent, they are on it. They would have immediately put an alert on her passport and they would have been stopped. That’s what I don’t understand, as he essentially told her in advance he is kidnapping their child and he was able to do it.

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:42

Cadeaukatze · 11/09/2026 09:35

And wouldn't there be questions asked at the UK end and the Canadian end anyway about whether the other parent had consented to travel and asking for proof. I've seen posts on here before about people needing consent or being phoned up by border control/the airline.

I know single mums who have never been asked when taking the kids away. I wonder how it's even enforced if the dad isn't in the picture at all.

Presumably a person can say the mother isn't in the picture. Although some would check others might not bother.

However, at 6, wouldn't DD be shouting at the airport? At 6 she would know she was going abroad. Presumably they would have lots of stuff if he's moving?
At check-in a 6yo would say where's my mummy. I mean my DD says that if I've just gone for a wee so she certainly would do that if DH took her somewhere unexpected and she's 3.

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:43

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 10:34

But when it comes to the abduction of a child, even by a parent, they are on it. They would have immediately put an alert on her passport and they would have been stopped. That’s what I don’t understand, as he essentially told her in advance he is kidnapping their child and he was able to do it.

You've convinced me to be fair but I also know how lax authorities can be. And how many people just aren't even asked at airports when they've travelled with their kids solo.

cordelia16 · 11/09/2026 10:45

YankTank · 11/09/2026 09:41

Not true. If you were born overseas and your parent is a US citizen who has lived in the US for 11+ years, two of which were age 14+, you ARE a US citizen. You may not have had your birth registered at an embassy yet, but you ARE legally a US citizen.

100% true

I am a US citizen who moved to the UK when I was 33. All three of my sons born in the UK were granted US citizenship automatically. I registered their births at the US embassy and received Consular Reports of Birth Abroad certificates. I also got them US passports.

My good friend who is American and also lives in the UK did not do either of those things for her UK-born son. He is still a US citizen.

YankTank · 11/09/2026 11:24

cordelia16 · 11/09/2026 10:34

Getting a US passport for a child in the UK born to one American parent still requires BOTH parents to not only sign the forms but appear in person and swear to the facts. If the non-American parent cannot appear for any reason, he/she must sign a formal waiver.

It is not easy to get a US passport for a child in the UK via the embassy, nor is it easy to renew a child passport in any other country. We lived in SG for 8 yrs after the UK, and both parents had to appear at the US embassy to renew the passports - we also had to show yearly photographs of each child to show the age progression, as children change a lot in 5 years.

My 18yo son needs his US passport renewed. As he's converting a child passport to an adult one, both parents still need to be present. And this is for our adult child (as his most recent passport was a 5-year one).

The US does not taking issuing passports lightly, so I have no idea how OP's chid's dad has managed this without OP's permission.

This. And if he tried to commit fraud, ie, “she’s deceased”, he would have to provide a death certificate.

(I didn’t know that I’ll STILL have to go to the embassy once my DC ages out of child passports and needs their first adult passport. FFS. 🤬 We live nowhere near London.)

Raydaye · 11/09/2026 11:34

liveforsummer · 11/09/2026 07:08

The difference is the African and ME countries are not members of The Hague convention so once the dc are in these countries there is basically nothing you can do to get them back. Thankfully for OP the US is a member. The law is very clear. It is parental abduction. Her DD will need to be returned and any custody dispute or permission to relocate will need to be decided by the UK courts.

Maybe so but it’s still extremely distressing during the weeks or months the parent is separated from their child while it’s been dealt with - even if they know in their heads it will eventually be resolved due to whatever legislation their hearts must be sinking.

I am just pointing out that it’s something to be aware of regardless whether the parent is from Nigeria or Pakistan or the U.S. or Spain. Even if for the latter two countries there will be a better outcome (eventually) I can imagine it’s still horrific to go through and the parent won’t be comforted much back by the legislation until the child is actually back with them.

There was someone on here who mentioned their Spanish ex had did this and it took some time to be resolved. I can’t find the post but it may have taken a few weeks or even months for their child to be reunited with them in the uk.

BronzedSun · 11/09/2026 11:57

GoldenSandy · 11/09/2026 10:43

You've convinced me to be fair but I also know how lax authorities can be. And how many people just aren't even asked at airports when they've travelled with their kids solo.

I agree authorities can be lax when it’s just a parent travelling with a child, but I know from experience how they treat it differently when it comes to parental abduction.

A friend went through this. I only heard about him refusing to bring the children back the next day but the first thing I told her was call the police to block their passports. Unfortunately by that point it was too late and they were already abroad but the police were able to quickly investigate what flight they got and where they flew to. And when he flew back to the UK on his own, he was arrested as soon as he landed for parental abduction. So that’s why I don’t understand why OP’s daughter was allowed to leave the UK once she knew what he was planning, and why the police have not been involved.

drspouse · 11/09/2026 12:01

YankTank · 11/09/2026 11:24

This. And if he tried to commit fraud, ie, “she’s deceased”, he would have to provide a death certificate.

(I didn’t know that I’ll STILL have to go to the embassy once my DC ages out of child passports and needs their first adult passport. FFS. 🤬 We live nowhere near London.)

We renew our DCs passports with one parent present - there's a form the other parent signs. It has to be notarised, DH or I go to the one solicitor in town or I think I've done it with an online US notary.
He could have a) lied about not living in the US (as it sounds like he moved over here as a young adult) or b) actually not lived in the US (maybe he did move over here as a child) or c) forged the OP's consent to the US passport.
It looks like he could have borrowed her passport and forged her signature for the CRBA:

https://uk.usembassy.gov/consular-report-of-birth-abroad-crba-and-first-u-s-passport/

OP, did he apply for your daughter's passport and do you know for sure it's a UK one? Did you sign anything?

cordelia16 · 11/09/2026 12:02

YankTank · 11/09/2026 11:24

This. And if he tried to commit fraud, ie, “she’s deceased”, he would have to provide a death certificate.

(I didn’t know that I’ll STILL have to go to the embassy once my DC ages out of child passports and needs their first adult passport. FFS. 🤬 We live nowhere near London.)

And if he tried to commit fraud, ie, “she’s deceased”, he would have to provide a death certificate.

Exactly. I don't see any way around the fraud. And all US persons are supposed to enter and exit the US on their US passports. Immigration should question why the daughter doesn't have a US passport, esp since her father has one.

(I didn’t know that I’ll STILL have to go to the embassy once my DC ages out of child passports and needs their first adult passport. FFS. 🤬 We live nowhere near London.)

I know - it's frustrating! My son's passport expires next March, so it was issued when he was 14, still legally a child. Are you closer to Edinburgh? There's a US embassy there as well.