Aibu feeling uneasy about men taking little girls to the toilet in the womens toilet?

[Fasdmama]

I've seen this a few times and I dont know what is the right thing to do.
So the other week we were at the cinema. I took my daughter to the toilet and as I was waiting for her a man came out of a cubicle with a little girl and went to wash her hands.
It got me thinking.
I feel uncomfortable a man in the womens toilet. I understand how you'd potentially feel uncomfortable taking a daughter into the mens toilets.
And the only other option in this situation was the disabled toilet but morally thats wrong.

I dont know what I feel is right in this situation so wanted to know other people's opinions.
So yabu: its right for a man to take girl into female toilets
Yanbu: he should take her somewhere else...but where?

I am talking about dads taking their daughters into toilets not men using women's toilets.

Dads taking their daughters to a women's toilet could be seen as a threat to women's spaces or could be seen as a safety measure to protect their daughters. I choose the latter interpretation.

It reduces the safety of other girls, who have rights as well.

A little girl is not going to come to any harm by going in the gents with their dad

There's no safeguarding issue.

Men shouldn't go in the ladies. Obviously

Surely this works both ways though?! You don’t want men around you and your daughters so allow other people’s daughters to be taken into the men’s toilet where there’s a high likelihood they’ll be exposed to men using urinals….

Should dads bring little boys into the women’s as well to protect them? Or are little boys fine to be exposed to this perceived depravity of piss and willies flying around everywhere in the men’s . Or if a man has a little boy and a little girl should they all go into the women’s together ? To protect the little girl ?

Protected by their father and also unlikely to see anything. Seriously - how do you think men use urinals?

Funny how little girls out with their dads are "spoilt little brats" but preteen girls in the ladies' are "vulnerable" 🤔

This thread is depressing, there are people who see no issue with women having to make accommodations so that adolescent boys (in one case) and adult men can come into a female only space.

A girl going into the gents with her father is unlikely to see anything untoward. And her father is there to protect her in any case.

A man coming into the women’s facilities is out of order. If he is incapable of keeping his child safe in the men’s toilets then why should women and girls have to be inconvenienced (at best)?

Actually I would happily let a man and daughter in this situation into the disabled toilet if I was working. Not much choice otherwise.

Or perhaps the demands of a man on behalf of his child don’t trump the rights of the other women and girls to use a single sex space.

I have a feeling my son who is fairly autistic will have to come with me or the disabled toilet until later than other boys might as he would be very vulnerable.

There is a choice and if they aren’t disabled then they shouldn’t use the disabled toilet.

pre teen girls are on their own in the toilet so they are far more vulnerable than a girl with her dad literally beside her . Honestly if all people did this the womens toilets would be full of men with children ? And what makes little boys ok to be exposed to whatever it is you feel is such a danger in the men’s ? Eh? Or men with both girls and boys as children . Should they bring all the children into the women’s ?

Or perhaps we can be a bit more sensible about it and acknowledge that both girls are vulnerable and there currently isn't a perfect solution that suits everyone's needs, so we need to keep working on that, rather than dividing into "camps" and calling each other snowflakes, brats, pick mes, etc etc

I wouldn't be keen for young girls to go into male toilets either but it is a better option to use the disabled.

Disabled toilet okay (not sure what ‘fairly autistic’ means) but not okay to take him into the women’s loos.

So many people happy to give up their hard won rights…

But that’s the issue then isn’t it as I don’t see a man taking his daughter into the female toilets as a recognised exception. I think he should go to the men’s.

what if the dad himself needed the loo but his child didn’t? What would be so then? Does he take her into the men’s that situation or does he go into the women’s? Would that be a recognised exception? What if he had a male and a female child? Would it be ok for a dad to bring his on into the female loos?

Fairly severe. Only if his dad isn't there though.

Are little boys not vulnerable? Are they ok to be exposed to all this danger in the men’s toilets ? Should they go into the women’s with their dads also ?

Adult man - go into the men’s regardless of the sex of the child.

If you don’t trust people around your child then it’s also on you to manage that without trampling on others’ rights.

Do you speak to people in real life with this much aggression (eh)?

Ah don’t give them ideas. One PP already admitted she takes her 10 year old in to the ladies toilets, presumably in case he gets abused, but female abuse victims are apparently fine to put up with it.

This is not “aggression” I am simply raising some points that most people are deliberately avoiding answering for some odd reason

Male toilet also tend to be absolutely grotty. I don't blame dad if he wouldn't want to take a little girl in there.

My local leisure centre doesn’t have any cubicles. Just 2 small open rooms with benches around the side. One for men and one for women.

and as I said before a dad did come in to the women’s with his daughter to get her changed and there were other young girls in states of undress plus a few older ladies going to an afternoons swim trying to keep their dignity .