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AIBU to think this is completely normal?

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Marycontrarygarden · Today 09:02

So, this morning I woke up, played with my 1.5 year old for a little while, then decided a little me time would be nice this morning. Told OH l, I feel like going to get a coffee, he replied, do it. I said great, won't be long, he replied, take as long as you like, 'baby' and I may go out or do some DIY x. AIBU to think this is what most parents should expect from their OH? It seems like it is not the norm on here. BTW we both work full time Mon to Fri.

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ClassActress · Today 10:11

I don’t understand why people complain about “negativity” on here. One of its primary purposes is a place for people to come to look for advice or support with problems they are experiencing.
There’s no reason that it has to be a positive place or representative of how the average person’s life is. Where do people get this idea from?

GreyCarpet · Today 10:12

OP, it's completely normal.

But there are women who post on here who are wedded to the idea that all men are crap and will accuse you of lying or being in denial if you say otherwise.

It may be unintentional.but it does sound like you feel you have it all sorted and that others should set the bar higher.

I don't feel that I have it all sorted but, yes, a lot of women do need to set the bar higher. What are you advocating for otherwise?

ClassActress · Today 10:14

moonshinemadness · Today 10:10

I sort of agree with this, but then isnt every topic rubbing someone's face in something?

Eg If someone is happy they just gave birth or found out they are pregnant - thats rubbing it in someone's face they are infertile

If someone posts about how supportive their mum is, its rubbing it in someone's face that their mum is dead or abusive

If someone posts that they just got engaged, its rubbing it in someone's face they just got divorced

If someone posts asking advice about where to invest money, its rubbing someone's face in the fact they have no savings at all

I think people have to take some responsibility for not going on to threads if they know they are only going to upset them.

No, the equivalent would be: I just had a baby and I’m ecstatic (or one of the other examples), AIBU to think this is normal/ everyone should experience this in this way?

Starfish1021 · Today 10:16

It would be the same in my relationship, I do agree the selection bias, but what I seriously struggle with is the level of women hating that comes out in the responses. My arsehole husband, who never pulls his weight, wants to ruin our child's birthday, then the responses, "oh stop being ridiculous of course he is entitled to be a massive dick." It's just so depressing.

moonshinemadness · Today 10:16

ClassActress · Today 10:14

No, the equivalent would be: I just had a baby and I’m ecstatic (or one of the other examples), AIBU to think this is normal/ everyone should experience this in this way?

Ok thats a fair point but I do still think if a post upsets you then just move on.

You arent obliged to engage in things that you dont like

DaisyChain505 · Today 10:17

Yes it’s normal. Both parents deserve to still be individuals and not just mum or dad.

I don’t work currently as I’m on maternity, yet my husband will take our baby out for the morning both days on the weekend so I can catch up on some sleep/chill on my own.

Hes exclusively breast fed and we’re not using bottles so there’s only so long he can be away from me but my husband has already said he can’t wait until he’s a bit older and more dependent on food so that he can make their one on one time a bit longer.

ToffeePennie · Today 10:18

This is absolutely normal in my relationship. Actually because of my high anxiety and PTSD I often get myself worked up because I can’t “do everything” and my husband will look at me and say “well who is expecting you to do everything? Go and sit down” so he will take care of me just as much as I take care of him.

LittleBearPad · Today 10:20

mamamuminka · Today 10:01

Thank you for your reply.
I think it’s so hard to explain why you need me time to someone who seems to not need it. He just works at work or works with the kids. Does not slow down (literally: gets impatient before desert and the meal already provided calories, sometimes we go to the same place and I want a leisurely stroll, he would leave ten mins after me to do one mor thing at work or home). I went away for 4 days earlier this year with my girlfriends - he moaned about it for 2 months before and may as well keep brining it up in conversations until I do another comparably shocking thing. I’m at a point of encouraging our shared friends to offer to take him out, I never said no to his rare beer with mates or a bike trip I actively encourage him and genuinely love to see him being carefree and happy for a bit! I would happily let him go for 3-4 weekends a year - we could plan it and I could have some lovely time with kids, I’m very independent and resilient. It’s this bit that I cannot understand and hurts: he would never see me happy that I got myself something I look nice in or went to distract myself on a trip with a friend, it’s always guilt tripping me one way or another.

what makes it doubly weird it that not many men are like this, and since he does nothing for himself in terms of self care, trips or friendships, whenever I go out “I’m out again leaving the poor guy with ALL the kids”.

Have you discussed his attitude and how he upsets you?

takealettermsjones · Today 10:20

The "take as long as you need" approach is not normal for me, not because I don't have a supportive DH but because we don't live life that way. We currently have five kids living in our house (three are ours), two have medical needs, one is suspected to be ND. I work FT and DH works a lot more than FT. Consequently our free time is planned out like everything else in our lives, otherwise the wheels would fall off. So I definitely get "me time," but I can't just swan off and come back whenever I feel like it - nor would he do that to me. I don't think our way of doing things is wrong or abnormal, just a consequence of having busier lives i guess.

ClassActress · Today 10:20

GreyCarpet · Today 10:12

OP, it's completely normal.

But there are women who post on here who are wedded to the idea that all men are crap and will accuse you of lying or being in denial if you say otherwise.

It may be unintentional.but it does sound like you feel you have it all sorted and that others should set the bar higher.

I don't feel that I have it all sorted but, yes, a lot of women do need to set the bar higher. What are you advocating for otherwise?

Do people on here actually tell other people who say they’re happily that they’re lying and all men are crap? I’ve never come across this.

ClassActress · Today 10:21

moonshinemadness · Today 10:16

Ok thats a fair point but I do still think if a post upsets you then just move on.

You arent obliged to engage in things that you dont like

Good advice for the OP.

Marycontrarygarden · Today 10:24

UnbeatenMum · Today 10:01

Thanks, I did get a couple of hours yesterday but it's been quite a hard week as my youngest is struggling to access school.

How old are they? I have a lot of education experience without going into too much detail. Feel free to DM.

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Marycontrarygarden · Today 10:25

ClassActress · Today 10:21

Good advice for the OP.

I disagree 😊

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moonshinemadness · Today 10:26

ClassActress · Today 10:20

Do people on here actually tell other people who say they’re happily that they’re lying and all men are crap? I’ve never come across this.

Yes, they do.

There was a recent thread about cheating and whether you could trust your partners. Several people said they did trust their partners (not blindly but in general) and loads of people told them they were idiots and their partners will inevitably cheat on them, that they are naive and stupid to trust.

Ive seen people accused of lying and bragging too

moonshinemadness · Today 10:26

ClassActress · Today 10:21

Good advice for the OP.

For everyone too. If a thread is making you angry then walk away from it.

Marycontrarygarden · Today 10:26

takealettermsjones · Today 10:20

The "take as long as you need" approach is not normal for me, not because I don't have a supportive DH but because we don't live life that way. We currently have five kids living in our house (three are ours), two have medical needs, one is suspected to be ND. I work FT and DH works a lot more than FT. Consequently our free time is planned out like everything else in our lives, otherwise the wheels would fall off. So I definitely get "me time," but I can't just swan off and come back whenever I feel like it - nor would he do that to me. I don't think our way of doing things is wrong or abnormal, just a consequence of having busier lives i guess.

You sound fantastic, genuinely.

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FoldItIn · Today 10:28

Love this @Marycontrarygarden and it should be normal. It isn't though, no matter how much posters like to deny it.
Beware of the bitters who will come along and try pull your post apart.
Women should collectively, set the bar higher because it's only getting worse, not better, especially with the rise of the red pill lot.

Hope you enjoy your coffee.

Marycontrarygarden · Today 10:28

moonshinemadness · Today 10:26

Yes, they do.

There was a recent thread about cheating and whether you could trust your partners. Several people said they did trust their partners (not blindly but in general) and loads of people told them they were idiots and their partners will inevitably cheat on them, that they are naive and stupid to trust.

Ive seen people accused of lying and bragging too

If people do come to lie or brag I feel for them. There must be a reason behind it.

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Marycontrarygarden · Today 10:29

FoldItIn · Today 10:28

Love this @Marycontrarygarden and it should be normal. It isn't though, no matter how much posters like to deny it.
Beware of the bitters who will come along and try pull your post apart.
Women should collectively, set the bar higher because it's only getting worse, not better, especially with the rise of the red pill lot.

Hope you enjoy your coffee.

Thank you. I hope you have a lovely day, whatever you are doing. I don't mind if people don't like it, as others have said, they can move along.

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moonshinemadness · Today 10:29

Marycontrarygarden · Today 10:28

If people do come to lie or brag I feel for them. There must be a reason behind it.

I am sure many people do lie and brag.

I am also sure many people are just being honest and others dont want to hear it so accuse them of it

MyArtfulGreySloth · Today 10:29

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 09:40

The only thing that I don't find very "normal" about your post is the idea that a man might call a grown woman "baby". But setting that aside, yes, it sounds like a very normal interaction.

Enjoy your coffee.

He didn’t 😂 try reading op again 🙄

Nevermind31 · Today 10:30

Depends if this goes both ways, and how often one parent is left to do it on their own, and what else is going on…

Contain4 · Today 10:37

I don’t think it’s normal for multiple reasons.

1 - not many people seem to have down days on here. They’re always busy.
2 - if they do go for a coffee it tends to be planned way ahead of time.
3 - they usually want to spend the time with their DPs as a family.
4 - not enough women get ‘me’ time, especially SAHMs

I think that you randomly deciding to get a coffee with such a young child is quite rare.

I’m guessing you were feeling extra stressed and needing to get away from it and it’s lovely that your DP is so supportive and doesn’t question you.

You can love your kids but still get overwhelmed and need the break and it’s nothing to be ashamed of.

I think it’s something that a lot of men don’t understand which is why women tend to get less breaks.

My sisters DH is not happy if she wants too much me time.
He works 1 week on, 1 week off so has loads of child-free time. and she works apart from weekends.
So the weekends are the only time she gets to have famity time with her DH and DC. He moans if she wants to go out on weekends too often because he says that’s family time - I would see it as controlling but many women on here would agree with him.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:47

TeenToTwenties · Today 09:04

Yes normal. But on MN people don't need to post normal, they post when unhappy.

Exactly this.

My husband was/is the same. Most men I know are the same.

People say mumsnet hates men but posters only talk about their husbands who are problematic. The good ones don’t get posts made about them.

Sassylovesbooks · Today 10:52

Yes, giving each other 'me' time is normal in a relationship..or rather it should be normal. Unfortunately, a lot of women on MN don't seem to experience a husband/partner who thinks he's as responsible for his child as his wife/partner!

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