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OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters

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Temptree · Yesterday 12:16

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exhausting school summer hols. Kids back at school today. I've given myself permission to vegetate till 3:15pm.
So here I am watching This Morning and have just spent 5 minutes with my jaw wide open and hand over my mouth at what Miriam Margolyes just said to Andi Peters.
Did anyone else see it??
I mean it takes a lot to shock me. I am not easily shocked.
And this woman is currently doing a sell out tour??
Whoah.

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MargoLeadbetterisQueen · Yesterday 19:26

Uricon2 · Yesterday 19:23

Because of her L wing credentials (and I say this as a life long Leftie) she'll have a get out and try to shrug it off. Bantz, innit?

It was not in any way OK though, it just wasn't, and my entire support is with Andi P, who has probably had more than enough of this to cope with in his life.

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Good points.

askmehwIkw · Yesterday 19:26

I've also watched it now. It's not good in any way but it is some how less awful seeing it than it is reading it without tone on paper. She does go on to see we are all about inclusion and welcome everyone. It comes across more her normal unfiltered first thing that comes into her head rather than maliciously racist. I'm not defending it just saying that on paper I imagined it as more aggressive and deliberately attacking.

Andi Peters does deal with it well. Christine whatsit just sits there and giggles which is not the way to respond. Their different levels of skill and experience with live television was very apparent.

Bigcat25 · Yesterday 19:28

Marellain · Yesterday 12:37

I don’t know who andI peters is. What exactly was wrong with what she said? She asked him if he was mixed race, and he isn’t? Please explain! Oh ok just saw she said high yella. Is that from Tennessee?

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Hmm, you don't see anything wrong with her telliing him what colour skin his parents have? Why would he need someone who's never met his folks to do that for him?

likelysuspect · Yesterday 19:33

Temptree · Yesterday 13:58

Yes I found this confusing actually. You're right, she did say at the end "I haven't said anything wrong have I?" in a rather dramatic faux innocent voice/facial expression, and the bit that confused me was that Andi himself replied "No you haven't". And Christine said "You've been lovely".
She'd said multiple 'wrong' things in 7 minutes. The abject racism towards Andi. The mocking of Christine's accent. The shaming of this unknown daughter with her mother in a care home (she even used the word "shoved" in to a care home in relation to the elderly woman she is apparently visiting this afternoon).
IDK maybe they just wanted to hurry up and get her off their couch. But I really hope they were both thinking something totally different in their minds.
How can we get this mumsnet thread to Andi & Christine? I want them both to read it!

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It was live TV what did you think they were going to say?

Lampzade · Yesterday 19:37

INeverReallyLovedYouAnyway · Yesterday 18:49

Gosh. Andi Peters has not aged a day since his Live and Kicking days.

That what I was going to say .
He is in good nick

askmehwIkw · Yesterday 19:38

BigYellowBus · Yesterday 13:55

If anyone reads the Fethering mysteries by SImon Brett, the most recent one (Death in the Dressing Room) has a character who is clearly based on Margolyes. And who is highly unsympathetic. Brett was a Radio 4 producer for years so I imagine they enountered each other

@BigYellowBus I had a look at this book and was thinking of getting it. Do you need to have read others in the series or can you read it as a stand alone? Is it sort of cosy crime? Imagining it might be set in a theatre dressing room

likelysuspect · Yesterday 19:41

Marellain · Yesterday 14:14

Interesting. The rules about language are very nuanced and particular and do evolve and change, and differ across social demographics. It might be that we aren’t actually allowed to even talk about certain words let alone use them.

And yet the word cunt is used casually in everyday parlance here, whereas in my childhood it was considered the most brutal of profanities. And calling women bitches is now normalised, even though I’m old fashioned enough to find it very offensive.

word policing: I’m not actually clear that it equates to thought policing.. can you think mysogynist thoughts, if you erase mysogynists language. I guess it remains to be seen.

Well this is true. On many a thread like this, people are clamoring to say their granny who is 130 would be horrified at racist words/comments/phrases and know 'racism is wrong' but in reality, people are simply taught not to say things that was normal when they were young. Its not that they always know its wrong, they're just told its wrong so dont do it/say it.

Lemonadedrop · Yesterday 19:44

Marellain · Yesterday 12:37

I don’t know who andI peters is. What exactly was wrong with what she said? She asked him if he was mixed race, and he isn’t? Please explain! Oh ok just saw she said high yella. Is that from Tennessee?

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I am perplexed too, she was clumsy that's for sure but old people have no filter, literally. The obsession with race must stop. It's a mental illness. Black people don't have this obsession with white people. For what it's worth I'm a darker shade of midnight 😀

Uricon2 · Yesterday 19:44

Brian Clough (who would be 91 if alive now) and Sir Henry Cooper (who would be 92) were founders and funders of the Anti Nazi League. They both abhorred racism in all its forms.

I judge them by their behaviour and actions (very favourably) as I do MM, differently, because it is words and actions that count, words and actions that matter.

ETA as I realise that I am old now, Brian C was a renowed football manager and Henry C possibly the best boxer the UK ever produced. Both born white Brit working class.

fashionqueen0123 · Yesterday 19:46

The thing she said that shocked me most was on Graham Norton where she talked about doing something quite rude not sure if I can type it on here. To a random man in a tree!! It was so odd.

She was good in Romeo and Juliet. I liked the programmes she’s made about Australia.

Andi Peters is a gem. Bring back the broom cupboard!

askmehwIkw · Yesterday 19:49

@fashionqueen0123 The thing she said that shocked me most was on Graham Norton where she talked about doing something quite rude not sure if I can type it on here. To a random man in a tree!! It was so odd.

I've already typed it for you in my post above ^ except I referred to a bush not a tree!

Lomonald · Yesterday 19:51

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 18:52

I've never heard the expression. I don't need to Google it to guess that it's probably insulting and probably best avoided.

Yeah it is entrenched in slavery amongst other things.

Pandasarethebest · Yesterday 19:56

Temptree · Yesterday 15:23

She said it.
Honestly, she actually said to him "What are you".
I feel I need to back up my claim that she said it because in my head I'm thinking to myself "Wait, Temptree, you must have misheard, she can't have said that on live TV".
But she sure as hell said it.

She said that I heard her!

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 20:02

Uricon2 · Yesterday 19:44

Brian Clough (who would be 91 if alive now) and Sir Henry Cooper (who would be 92) were founders and funders of the Anti Nazi League. They both abhorred racism in all its forms.

I judge them by their behaviour and actions (very favourably) as I do MM, differently, because it is words and actions that count, words and actions that matter.

ETA as I realise that I am old now, Brian C was a renowed football manager and Henry C possibly the best boxer the UK ever produced. Both born white Brit working class.

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I didn't know that (well I know who they are but not about that) thank you

localnotail · Yesterday 20:03

OMG She said WHAT? Fucking weirdo. I dont know much about her or who TF is she (apart from seeing her referred to on here). Also. she is literally not white herself, so WTF again?

RosaMundi27 · Yesterday 20:03

"high yella" OMG what an appalling term to use to, or about, a Black person.

RuinartRuination · Yesterday 20:04

Temptree · Yesterday 12:16

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exhausting school summer hols. Kids back at school today. I've given myself permission to vegetate till 3:15pm.
So here I am watching This Morning and have just spent 5 minutes with my jaw wide open and hand over my mouth at what Miriam Margolyes just said to Andi Peters.
Did anyone else see it??
I mean it takes a lot to shock me. I am not easily shocked.
And this woman is currently doing a sell out tour??
Whoah.

She was my close neighbour in London for years. She was ok in person, a total Champagne socialist obviously but I can’t abide with all the farting and faux innocence. You’d have to pay me to go and watch that type of juvenile rubbish. I’d get better from my young DC.

Ohcrap082024 · Yesterday 20:13

Only yesterday on a thread about national treasures people disliked, Miriam M was mentioned repeatedly.

Her crudeness wrapped up in a posh voice is cringeworthy.

Poor Andy Peters having to deal with that shit.

GlomOfNit · Yesterday 20:14

Lemonadedrop · Yesterday 19:44

I am perplexed too, she was clumsy that's for sure but old people have no filter, literally. The obsession with race must stop. It's a mental illness. Black people don't have this obsession with white people. For what it's worth I'm a darker shade of midnight 😀

But if you've had an eye on MM for the last, ooh, couple of decades, you'll know that this ISN'T an 'old people' thing! She's been like this, literally, forever! Either she has no filter because she has a neurodevelopment condition (and I've never heard that claimed) or she opens her mouth to let the filth out and doesn't give a toss about it, or anyone listening. She's absolutely only booked onto sofa and magazine shows these days because they know she's going to say something outrageous. And she obliges. I think it's less about her 'not having a filter' and more of a contrived thing, but I also think it speaks volumes about her personal character.

And I agree with a poster a page or so ago who said, because she's a bit of a darling of the Left, it's generally felt she gets away with this as 'bantz'. Angry Frankly I'm ashamed to share the same (very broad) area of the political spectrum with her.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:16

RuinartRuination · Yesterday 20:04

She was my close neighbour in London for years. She was ok in person, a total Champagne socialist obviously but I can’t abide with all the farting and faux innocence. You’d have to pay me to go and watch that type of juvenile rubbish. I’d get better from my young DC.

I haven’t seen much of her but reading these posts I’m glad. It all sounds contrived.

likelysuspect · Yesterday 20:17

Lampzade · Yesterday 19:37

That what I was going to say .
He is in good nick

We love watching him on QVC selling pies and chocolate mostly. He is hilarious but we comment every time that he looks exactly the same as he did in the cupboard!!

Deata · Yesterday 20:20

Awful! I was around her once at a farmers market of all things, and I still to this day remember her as a nasty cow. This doesn’t surprise me. And yes, I completely get that famous people shouldn’t be gawped at and should have their privacy but I always remember how utterly unpleasant she was. Here in London there are lots of famous people, so it’s not an unusual thing to see famous people, for context.

Lalgarh · Yesterday 20:20

MargoLeadbetterisQueen · Yesterday 19:08

She's supposed to be left wing! She was a Jeremy Corbyn supporter.

Excellent username by the by @MargoLeadbetterisQueen . You'd never have got this from Penelope Keith.

I get the horrible feeling MM thought she might have been trying to endear herself to Peters and Lampard by showing some sort of knowledge of their backgrounds. And yes she is generally seen as A Good Sort by the likes of Owen Jones. Self identifies as "unapologetically woke"

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/10/14/miriam-margolye/

Will Jolyon be issuing an open letter defending her misspeaking

Miriam Margolyes says she's 'unapologetically woke': 'I'm a left-wing d***'

Miriam Margolyes has described herself as "unapologetically woke" and said she loves being a "left-wing d***," and we love her for it.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/10/14/miriam-margolye/

MargoLeadbetterisQueen · Yesterday 20:23

Lalgarh · Yesterday 20:20

Excellent username by the by @MargoLeadbetterisQueen . You'd never have got this from Penelope Keith.

I get the horrible feeling MM thought she might have been trying to endear herself to Peters and Lampard by showing some sort of knowledge of their backgrounds. And yes she is generally seen as A Good Sort by the likes of Owen Jones. Self identifies as "unapologetically woke"

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/10/14/miriam-margolye/

Will Jolyon be issuing an open letter defending her misspeaking

Thank you! Excellent points. I think always promoting herself as left wing, seems to have given some the impression that she can't be prejudiced.

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 20:25

Lemonadedrop · Yesterday 19:44

I am perplexed too, she was clumsy that's for sure but old people have no filter, literally. The obsession with race must stop. It's a mental illness. Black people don't have this obsession with white people. For what it's worth I'm a darker shade of midnight 😀

There is no need be ageist.