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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 11:47

Anonyanonay · 01/09/2026 10:58

Lol.

The mental gymnastics are truly something to behold.

Anonyanonay · 01/09/2026 11:48

CoventryCity · 01/09/2026 11:27

100% there will not be any backpedalling from the left on anything (or any apologies). An American article here, but the principles - are the same. You will recognise them.

'Remorse and atonement do not exist in the leftist mindset.

Many conservatives think.... that our poor, misguided leftist friends, who may or may not have endorsed barbarities with the best of intentions, merely require the right revelation, the right sequence of carefully constructed arguments and cold, hard facts, to abandon the false god of leftism.

These conservatives cling to the idea that even hardcore leftists can be reasoned with, that the marketplace of ideas merely has to work its magic to convert these wayward sheep back to the old civility of yore.

The thing is, the left won’t wake up. There will be no mass conversion event when [for example] all the trans activists, corrupt bureaucrats, and Antifa thugs suddenly snap out of it and rejoin the more sane ranks of American society.

That’s not how pathological leftism works, and to believe that it does is a dangerous fantasy. Concepts like remorse and atonement do not exist in the leftist mindset. For themselves, at least. Remorse and atonement are instead reserved for the real oppressors, namely straight white men and the capitalist system they propagate.

In reality, leftists possess an entire toolbox of methods to avoid any sort of reckoning. They’ll aggressively downplay previous abuses and assure the public that, though previous iterations of wokeness may have gotten a bit out of hand, they merely want “health care” and spout some version of “real socialism has never been tried.” This is already the favorite tactic of the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

They’ll conveniently forget any of it ever happened, and they’ll aggressively gaslight Americans into believing that it never happened, too. Through their control over institutions like the media and academia, they can memory-hole practically whatever they want, just as they’ve already done with scandals like Russiagate and with the worst excesses of the Covid era.

Finally, they’ll convince themselves that rather than a string of necessary evils required to defeat the reviled conservative oppressors, their atrocities were a positive good — finally liberating America and ushering in an age of left-wing utopia.

The citizens of the former Soviet Union didn’t “wake up” to all the horrors of their regime. They still deny the Holodomor, the abortion rate remains extremely high, and the government has offered little in the way of an acknowledgment or apology for the brutal gulag system. The Soviet Union didn’t fall because the Soviet citizenry woke up one day and suddenly regretted all the terrible things that had been committed in the name of the communist regime. They finally turned against the Soviet system once its intrusiveness and incompetence became too inconvenient in daily life, but there was no grand self-reflection. You can look at every communist, socialist, or “democratic socialist” regime of the last century, and you’ll see this exact same pattern.

Like the Soviets, some (emphasis on some) of the leftists of today will only begin to turn against leftism (if at all) once it starts to negatively affect them personally, but they’ll never grapple with the historic horrors wrought by their movement. Because the horror is the point.'

https://thefederalist.com/2026/08/28/leftists-will-never-self-reflect-and-they-will-never-apologize-for-the-horrors-they-inflict/?amp=&amp=

They're also absolutely fine with rampant hypocrisy. Palestinians should have their ethnic homeland, but the English and white Europeans aren't allowed to even suggest they have one. Racism is just fine when it excludes white people, as DEI quotas often show. Constantly banging on about violence on the right while openly cheering the death of Charlie Kirk and Ann Widdecombe. Race swapping characters in books and history, but imagine the uproar if someone made a drama where a white European played a black or brown character. It's so fucking tedious.

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 11:49

Anonyanonay · 01/09/2026 11:48

They're also absolutely fine with rampant hypocrisy. Palestinians should have their ethnic homeland, but the English and white Europeans aren't allowed to even suggest they have one. Racism is just fine when it excludes white people, as DEI quotas often show. Constantly banging on about violence on the right while openly cheering the death of Charlie Kirk and Ann Widdecombe. Race swapping characters in books and history, but imagine the uproar if someone made a drama where a white European played a black or brown character. It's so fucking tedious.

Every word of this.

Parker231 · 01/09/2026 11:50

Anonyanonay · 01/09/2026 11:06

You seem to be implicitly accepting that these men lie about their country of origin. Why would they need to do that? Why aren't they being honest about it?

If I didn’t want to be sent back to my home country, I’d make sure I had no documentation to show where I came from

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 11:54

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 10:31

Probably. I hope one day it’s over and women are not deprioritised because a male needs to be put first no matter how bad it gets.

Mn is a good record of why it was so bad, people can look at the tactics used to silence. Even this thread shows it well in one go, the first half is mostly posters demanding why are you posting this, you’re stirring, fake, liar etc

If anyone asks how did it last so long, mn has it.

Yes, on the very first page already ‘Third thread in as many days’ and ‘Why don’t you go and take the dog for a walk or sit in the garden OP?’

How dare we discuss this?

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 11:58

It’ll be interesting to see what’s going to happen in Germany on Sunday.

The elections I mean.

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 12:43

Anonyanonay · 01/09/2026 11:48

They're also absolutely fine with rampant hypocrisy. Palestinians should have their ethnic homeland, but the English and white Europeans aren't allowed to even suggest they have one. Racism is just fine when it excludes white people, as DEI quotas often show. Constantly banging on about violence on the right while openly cheering the death of Charlie Kirk and Ann Widdecombe. Race swapping characters in books and history, but imagine the uproar if someone made a drama where a white European played a black or brown character. It's so fucking tedious.

Wish I could frame this post.

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 12:45

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 11:54

Yes, on the very first page already ‘Third thread in as many days’ and ‘Why don’t you go and take the dog for a walk or sit in the garden OP?’

How dare we discuss this?

That was really arrogant - telling OP to wind the thread up.

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 13:01

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 12:45

That was really arrogant - telling OP to wind the thread up.

It was.

But I think I’ve reached the point where I don’t give a shit anymore.

I’ve been angry for a long, long time. My home country has paid a high price for its ‘welcome culture’.

But for a long time those of us who hated it and could see where things were headed, were shouted down and called all names under the sun.

Well I don’t care anymore. I love this country and I like to think I’ve made a positive contribution to it (not just to my English husband 🤣).

If anything, me being a foreigner should mean something, as in it’s not just ‘British Gammons, knuckle draggers’ etc.

No, there are a lot of concerned citizens in this country. Homegrown and immigrants alike.

The left doesn’t get to dismiss us just because we don’t fit into their world view.

Instead of blindly following the ‘be kind’ narrative, open your eyes and ears.

And for the love of God, don’t keep dismissing articles from the Daily Mail etc because you think they ‘spread false news’ or ‘propaganda’.

As if the Guardian and the BBC aren’t biased!

And the Daily Mail was, if I remember correctly, one of the first papers to point out the lunacy of self ID.

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 13:36

At least when the usual is we always thought it was dangerous these threads will show what women faced.

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 13:41

I’m so tired of all this shit.

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 13:42

Yep. I’m glad others are too and can talk about it. Finally.

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 13:45

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 13:42

Yep. I’m glad others are too and can talk about it. Finally.

It’s been a long time coming.

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 17:56

I just posted (or so I thought) a new thread, but it’s not showing.

I don’t think I want to be part of this site anymore where insults are staying up for a good twelve hours whereas I’ve already had two posts deleted and now my thread is not showing.

What is the point?

foursquares · 01/09/2026 18:00

Smokeywater · 30/08/2026 09:48

Weak governments from Blair onwards

to add - will make me vote Restore or Reform regardless of the idiots running these parties - it's a last hope of someone doing something

Edited

lol..should have finished those GCSEs

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 18:03

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 17:56

I just posted (or so I thought) a new thread, but it’s not showing.

I don’t think I want to be part of this site anymore where insults are staying up for a good twelve hours whereas I’ve already had two posts deleted and now my thread is not showing.

What is the point?

Edited

I hope you stay @GunnelVallquistik it can be frustrating at times. I really appreciate your take.

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 18:03

So disappointed in mumsnet…fair enough I had some posts deleted this morning (although other people’s posts with hideous insults stayed up for 12+ hrs, but never mind)

But to not even post my thread when there was nothing remotely racist/ xenophobic/ inappropriate is really disappointing.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 01/09/2026 18:04

Smokeywater · 30/08/2026 09:48

Weak governments from Blair onwards

to add - will make me vote Restore or Reform regardless of the idiots running these parties - it's a last hope of someone doing something

Edited

What do you think they're going to actually do, that's legal and possible, and different to what current parties are looking at?

If you can't answer that without looking it up you've foolishly believed the same sort of rhetoric that got us into Brexit.

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 18:04

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 17:56

I just posted (or so I thought) a new thread, but it’s not showing.

I don’t think I want to be part of this site anymore where insults are staying up for a good twelve hours whereas I’ve already had two posts deleted and now my thread is not showing.

What is the point?

Edited

Don't go. That lets people win. You have some good mates on here x

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 18:05

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 18:03

I hope you stay @GunnelVallquistik it can be frustrating at times. I really appreciate your take.

Thank you @EasternStandard ❤️.

I am really upset right now because I like to think I always ‘play by the rules’,

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 18:05

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 18:04

Don't go. That lets people win. You have some good mates on here x

Edited

Thank you 😭❤️

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 18:08

GunnelVallquist · 01/09/2026 18:05

Thank you @EasternStandard ❤️.

I am really upset right now because I like to think I always ‘play by the rules’,

We have all had posts deleted except for @Easternstandard because she's too smart 😆 🤣 takes a while to learn how to post and carefully.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 01/09/2026 18:10

Anonyanonay · 01/09/2026 11:12

I am always stunned that people on the 'I'm so virtuous' progressive left never ask themselves if it is morally acceptable to poach doctors and engineers from countries that sorely need them.

Heard something v interesting on the radio about this a while back, there's actually quite a cyclic pattern of immigrant doctors eventually returning to their home countries taking better medical practice and knowledge with them. There's a debate on how beneficial this is.

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 18:12

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 18:08

We have all had posts deleted except for @Easternstandard because she's too smart 😆 🤣 takes a while to learn how to post and carefully.

Haha I used to get got. Ik what to look out for now ;

LuckyHazelFox · 01/09/2026 18:12

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 18:12

Haha I used to get got. Ik what to look out for now ;

Exactly 💯