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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:38

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:27

Yes, the Nord Littoral calls all 3 attempted crossings.

The arrivals are reported for each date, so August 28th shows how many did, whether they were outside that article or not.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:40

SoThatwasSummer · 31/08/2026 09:32

A busy night watching them all leave ? What on earth are the French doing

No, they were following them and then stopped them. Curious what the other article is saying.
Le bateau a ensuite suivi l’embarcation jusque dans les eaux britanniques, avant de rentrer en direction du quai Paul Devot, à Calais, vers midi, pour une prise en charge par les autorités et les secours.

The boat followed the [refugee] vessel just inside British waters before returning to Paul Dévot Quay in Calais around noon for pickup of the occupants [of the refugee vessel] by the authorities and rescue services.

The photo even shows them disembarking in Calais. Note the French on the tent and the French flag on the rescue boat.

Au total, sur les journées du 26 au 28 août 2026, 81 personnes ont été prises en charge par le CROSS Gris-Nez, pour trois tentatives de traversée, à savoir Fécamp, Wissant et Gravelines.

In total, on the days of 26 to 28 August, 81 people were taken care of by the CROSS Gris-Nez for three crossing attempts, namely Fecamp, Wissant and Gravelines.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:41

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:40

No, they were following them and then stopped them. Curious what the other article is saying.
Le bateau a ensuite suivi l’embarcation jusque dans les eaux britanniques, avant de rentrer en direction du quai Paul Devot, à Calais, vers midi, pour une prise en charge par les autorités et les secours.

The boat followed the [refugee] vessel just inside British waters before returning to Paul Dévot Quay in Calais around noon for pickup of the occupants [of the refugee vessel] by the authorities and rescue services.

The photo even shows them disembarking in Calais. Note the French on the tent and the French flag on the rescue boat.

Au total, sur les journées du 26 au 28 août 2026, 81 personnes ont été prises en charge par le CROSS Gris-Nez, pour trois tentatives de traversée, à savoir Fécamp, Wissant et Gravelines.

In total, on the days of 26 to 28 August, 81 people were taken care of by the CROSS Gris-Nez for three crossing attempts, namely Fecamp, Wissant and Gravelines.

On the 28th August 3 boats with 122 people arrived, so the French article probably just covers who they aid.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:42

Thanks, says that the judge thinks it’s a pack of lies he was ever an interpreter for the British army. How dare he be a Walter Mitty on top of a rapist? Scum

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:43

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:41

On the 28th August 3 boats with 122 people arrived, so the French article probably just covers who they aid.

Or they were different boats from the ones the French stopped? 6 boats in one summer day isn’t a lot when we are getting close to 50k people a year that way.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:45

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:43

Or they were different boats from the ones the French stopped? 6 boats in one summer day isn’t a lot when we are getting close to 50k people a year that way.

Yes there are probably some that need help to go back and others they don’t know about.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:48

This is awful. It’s also why women want the system changed.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:48

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 10:07

I wondered where the sunburn thing came from, which appeared a few times. That was a definite apparently.

It wasn’t sunburn, the French was clear these were burns not sunburns, however they are likely accidental burns given no criminal investigation is happening. Well, just thinking out loud, unless the guy who was stabbed burnt the women and that is how he ended up stabbed? Either self defence by one of the women or by another man trying to protect them?

smallglassbottle · 31/08/2026 13:49

https://news.sky.com/story/former-translator-for-british-army-in-afghanistan-jailed-in-scotland-for-raping-teenage-passenger-in-his-taxi-13571875

He's reported here as being an interpreter. So either he is, or he's a lying scumbag who's conned his way into the country.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:50

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:45

Yes there are probably some that need help to go back and others they don’t know about.

At least the French are doing something to stop the boats.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:52

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:50

At least the French are doing something to stop the boats.

They’re not stopping them in deep water. Unless you mean on the beach with tear gas etc and you feel that’s a good thing.

CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 13:54

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:48

It wasn’t sunburn, the French was clear these were burns not sunburns, however they are likely accidental burns given no criminal investigation is happening. Well, just thinking out loud, unless the guy who was stabbed burnt the women and that is how he ended up stabbed? Either self defence by one of the women or by another man trying to protect them?

Which poster mentioned 'sunburn' first I wonder. Easy to check ofc.

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NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:54

smallglassbottle · 31/08/2026 13:49

https://news.sky.com/story/former-translator-for-british-army-in-afghanistan-jailed-in-scotland-for-raping-teenage-passenger-in-his-taxi-13571875

He's reported here as being an interpreter. So either he is, or he's a lying scumbag who's conned his way into the country.

Probably lying, how can a 19yr old have been an interpreter for the British army in Afghanistan between 2006 to 2014? He would have been aged 0 to 7.

No British unit would allow a kid to work as an interpreter.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:55

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:54

Probably lying, how can a 19yr old have been an interpreter for the British army in Afghanistan between 2006 to 2014? He would have been aged 0 to 7.

No British unit would allow a kid to work as an interpreter.

How did he get through that lie for asylum or ILR?

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:58

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:52

They’re not stopping them in deep water. Unless you mean on the beach with tear gas etc and you feel that’s a good thing.

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? The article says they are. Just inside British waters is literally on the search and rescue boundary in the middle of the channel. That’s deep water.

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?
CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 13:59

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EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 14:00

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:58

? The article says they are. Just inside British waters is literally on the search and rescue boundary in the middle of the channel. That’s deep water.

Yes they can help a boat that needs it in deep water but can’t stop them there. There’s a legal distinction on what can be done.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 14:00

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 13:55

How did he get through that lie for asylum or ILR?

It wouldn’t have been under the asylum system nor would he have arrived by boat or other irregular means of entry.

He would have applied under one of the three Afghan programs, it’s a seperate visa type.

Afghan Relocations and Assistance Policy (ARAP): Designed for Afghan citizens who worked for or with the UK Government. This scheme closed to new applications on July 1, 2025, though existing pending applications and pre-approved individuals continue to be processed under specific timelines. 1, 2]
Afghan Citizens Resettlement Scheme (ACRS): Aimed at vulnerable individuals and those who assisted UK efforts. The government confirmed no further ACRS pathways or referrals would be opened after July 1, 2025.1]
Afghanistan Response Route (ARR): Discontinued in July 2025, with processing limited strictly to those already issued invitation letters

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 14:01

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 14:00

Yes they can help a boat that needs it in deep water but can’t stop them there. There’s a legal distinction on what can be done.

Oh, I thought that new agreement Starmer made meant that they could. I will have to revisit those reports to see if I am misremembering.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 14:05

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I guess we should caveat if we are speculating. Like I was speculating based on the patchy information that the burns are accidental unless they are part of the criminal investigation about the stabbing as there’s no specific mention of the burns being investigated. I do know that friction burns from riding astride with say a nylon rope twisted around your leg or sitting to close to the outboard motor - these traffickers always overload the dinghies so it’s crowded and the motors overheat abd often break down.

GunnelVallquist · 31/08/2026 14:08

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 13:54

Probably lying, how can a 19yr old have been an interpreter for the British army in Afghanistan between 2006 to 2014? He would have been aged 0 to 7.

No British unit would allow a kid to work as an interpreter.

I think the girl he raped was 19.

He’s 36.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 14:08

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 14:00

It wouldn’t have been under the asylum system nor would he have arrived by boat or other irregular means of entry.

He would have applied under one of the three Afghan programs, it’s a seperate visa type.

Afghan Relocations and Assistance Policy (ARAP): Designed for Afghan citizens who worked for or with the UK Government. This scheme closed to new applications on July 1, 2025, though existing pending applications and pre-approved individuals continue to be processed under specific timelines. 1, 2]
Afghan Citizens Resettlement Scheme (ACRS): Aimed at vulnerable individuals and those who assisted UK efforts. The government confirmed no further ACRS pathways or referrals would be opened after July 1, 2025.1]
Afghanistan Response Route (ARR): Discontinued in July 2025, with processing limited strictly to those already issued invitation letters

But if his age was out as you say how was it not noticed?

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EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 14:15

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Tbf there were a few who picked this up, ran with it and had a go too.