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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:11

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:08

But are a proportion of those voting that way over horror about women being burned and a stabbing, neither of which actually happened?

'neither of which actually happened' - Where is your evidence for this assertion?

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EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:11

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:09

Oh for goodness sake. Does it say stabbing? Did anyone but the Mail (quoted by the Express) say stabbing? Does it say what caused the death?

Oh for goodness sake. Read it if you want.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:12

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:08

But are a proportion of those voting that way over horror about women being burned and a stabbing, neither of which actually happened?

Not really. They are coming in unvetted and that's the main concern.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:12

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EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:12

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:11

'neither of which actually happened' - Where is your evidence for this assertion?

I’m wondering too.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:13

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:11

'neither of which actually happened' - Where is your evidence for this assertion?

The French report that your links claim got its information….

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:13

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:11

'neither of which actually happened' - Where is your evidence for this assertion?

Fair I guess. Neither of which were actually reported by the French authorities, so may not have happened. And the burns (if they were there at all - the official report doesn’t say so as far as I can see) were sunburn not people ‘being burned’ which has a different connotation.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:14

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Who is the less intelligent? Are you referring to the pp?

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 22:15

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:13

That’s not a reply to the point I was making. It wasn’t about whether Brexit would affect immigration, it was about this nonsense that a ‘proper’ Brexit would have been sunshine and rainbows. It’s nonsense.
And if someone has done the work to gain citizenship if an EU country (it’s not easy anywhere) then I have no problem with them following the laws of that country and having free movement.

The 2015 terrorist attacks in France - 11 out of 13 of the perpetrators were EU citizens.

Federal police forces in Germany and Austria have broken up smuggling syndicates where newly naturalised Syrians mailed their genuine physical German or Austrian ID cards back to relatives or paying customers in Greece, Turkey, or Syria.

In Sweden and parts of Germany, the timeline of the 2015 arrivals coincided with a massive explosion in gang warfare, and younger members of this cohort became heavily involved as they grew into adulthood.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:15

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:12

Not really. They are coming in unvetted and that's the main concern.

Is it? Asylum seekers will always have an element of that as many come from collapsed states or war zones so have no documentation. It’s never been something people got worked up about until Farage started banging on about the boats.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:15

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Less intelligent. The usual personal attacks. You will just have to accept the vote isn't going your way because people don't approach this issue in the way you do. Intelligent women having a mind of their own. Now fancy that.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:15

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:14

Who is the less intelligent? Are you referring to the pp?

I’m referring to anyone who blindly believed the article OP posted without fact checking it first.

And of course anyone who reads/believes the daily mail/express.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:17

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:15

Less intelligent. The usual personal attacks. You will just have to accept the vote isn't going your way because people don't approach this issue in the way you do. Intelligent women having a mind of their own. Now fancy that.

The vote is irrelevant as it was based on a false report of stabbings and burnings.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:18

When are the mods going to cotton onto this tactic that's being employed across these threads?

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:18

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 22:15

The 2015 terrorist attacks in France - 11 out of 13 of the perpetrators were EU citizens.

Federal police forces in Germany and Austria have broken up smuggling syndicates where newly naturalised Syrians mailed their genuine physical German or Austrian ID cards back to relatives or paying customers in Greece, Turkey, or Syria.

In Sweden and parts of Germany, the timeline of the 2015 arrivals coincided with a massive explosion in gang warfare, and younger members of this cohort became heavily involved as they grew into adulthood.

There are (and always will be) criminal elements in any group. I tend to avoid demonising the whole group as a result.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:18

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:17

The vote is irrelevant as it was based on a false report of stabbings and burnings.

Before I go - please provide evidence the reports are false. Thanks babe.

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LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:18

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 22:17

The vote is irrelevant as it was based on a false report of stabbings and burnings.

How do you know that?

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:19

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:18

When are the mods going to cotton onto this tactic that's being employed across these threads?

Quite sinister isn't it.

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LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:19

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:18

Before I go - please provide evidence the reports are false. Thanks babe.

They want the thread to be pulled.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 22:20

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:00

That wasn’t what I read at the time. Forgive me if I don’t accept post-cancellation justifications. Anyway, it was downright immoral and against international law, and I prefer living in a country not en route to becoming a pariah state.

What's you're saying is against what I've read just now.

I don't know what was immoral about it. Non-citizens have no right to stay here if we don't want them to. International law is all made up and can just be ignored if a country doesn't choose to sign the treaty or implement it domestically.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:21

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:18

Before I go - please provide evidence the reports are false. Thanks babe.

The reports are not confirmed by the French authorities’ report on the incident. Nobody was ‘burned’ which has a different connotation than ‘sunburned’ however much you claim that’s all you meant by it. There is no mention of stabbings in the report, just ‘injuries’. So I guess there could have been a stabbing but you didn’t know there was - you believed the lies of the Mail as reported in the Express.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 22:22

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:19

They want the thread to be pulled.

Agreed. Hopefully see you on the other side (the morning).. x

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cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:22

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 22:20

What's you're saying is against what I've read just now.

I don't know what was immoral about it. Non-citizens have no right to stay here if we don't want them to. International law is all made up and can just be ignored if a country doesn't choose to sign the treaty or implement it domestically.

Pei0le have a right to claim asylum where they choose to. It’s never been can be denied, but they have the right to claim it. Shipping people to Rwanda with no return possible is, in my view, immoral in view of that. Maybe we have a different moral standard.

Windsurf · 30/08/2026 22:23

The women defending this situation are the worst thing about Britain now. The worst of the worst. So many of them in the labour government, libdems, greens. The absolute worst people on the planet. Thank goodness we are finding out what a tiny minority they are.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 22:24

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:19

They want the thread to be pulled.

As far as I. Aware nobody has asked for that. I certainly haven’t. But the original report linked and the OP’s words about it are deeply misleading. The report itself contains outright lies. Do you think people shouldn't challenge lies and the resulting misinformation and misunderstandings?